LL Have Brought This Response On Themselves

By stupidly acquiescing to the chattering masses every time a couple of them get out the pitchforks and protest this or that policy change.

Estate owners especially know that if they BAWWW and make enough noise about it then LL will give in and back off.

If LL acted like a real business and just made the right decisions for their bottom line regardless of the complaints of a few noisy elite members then they would avoid the kind of BS we're seeing all over the forums and clogging up the tubes

Seriously, Elan, would you have made this thread if LL increased mainland tier 67% instead?

Elanthius, I agree that LL has brought this response on themselves, but I don't agree with anything else you said.

LL brought this on themselves by stupidly failing to consider the impact of this on the majority of customers who were using OS properly. They brought this on themselves by announcing a change that punishes the innocent instead of going after the abusers.

Come on, Elan, you know that this is just a money grab. Even if you accept it as true that the OSs are causing undue strain to the asset servers, grabbing money isn't going to stop that behavior. They made a policy change that invited their use as rentals. I am not opposed to their use as rentals, but let's be real about it all. It is completely disproportionate to the value of having a full sim now.

Since Jack reported that 2 OSRs actually put double the strain on the grid that 1 regular sim does, I would agree that the value is disproportionate, but not to the disadvantage of the owners of the OSR. So i can see why they are raising the price so they can try and scale all of them so they are less of a strain on the system.

That's how they want it to be.

LL perceives OS's as a drag on their business, whether in terms of the economy, misuse of the OS's, or trying to get people back to mainland or full island estates, so they have instituted a new pricing deterrent.

I perceive OS's as a drag on the economy, I also believe that they take more support man-hours for LL.

I am happy that we have had higher peak concurrencies, and it has been quite a long time since I can remember a full grid-wide outage, though perhaps I missed one sometime recently.

I really don't think LL knows how to run a land market. They are constantly flipping mass demand back and forth between private islands and mainland, there is no attempt at a smoothing effect in trying to equalize demand. First they up the prim limit and drop price on OpenSpace sims making islands extremely popular with estate owners especially ones that take the opportunity to establish themselves with the relatively cheap OpenSpace sims that they can rent or lease just a few parcels on and make fair profit. Now with mainland in the prices in the toilet they are jacking, neg, skyrocketing the Maintenance on OpenSpace to turn demand back to the mainland, which is now a sellers market for mainland which is good but so drastic it will drive Island values back into the tank, then LL will start the whole cycle over again...

Hmmm... Dejavu? Think I remember saying the same thing about them dropping OpenSpace prices and the mass rush to them, though of course the reverse scenario.

Let me just say that a gentler more CONTROLLED approach would smooth a lot of feathers and eventually lead to a stabler land market. Mainland and Island MUST be relatively equal, or LL will have to decide which they would rather continue to sell and profit from and ditch sales for the other. Be it private continents and have Mainland predominately Linden developed or cease selling island sims and have residents expand the mainland. The saw tooth approach they employ is just going to drive their customer base away.

Come on Snowflake, tell us how much money OS's cost you in rentals. Why hide behind an alt? Be brave, tell us which land business you own. Let the people know who they are doing business with.

You never did explain how residents having less money is a good thing for the economy. We are all ears.

Not pissing off your customers or pricing yourself out of business are important to the bottom line too.

Do you really think I am Anshe? I mean really or are you just pulling my leg?
Less drag on the grid is good for everyone. The economy does nothing when the grid is down. Wouldn't you agree?

You are associated with Celestial Isle and Harmony Isle or you used to be. That is not a violation of your privacy. You posted several ads for them under this name. /114/62/283106/1.html#post2154913

Tell us, how does the residents having less money help the economy? Let us in on your business insight.

I look at it from the end user's point of view. An estate owner with 2 OSRs is better off buying a full island now. It defeats the purpose of even having any of these things, which is why they will disappear almost completely. What's better for LL? Having all demand for them dry up, plus an antagonistic user base, or just reverting the incentives for development as rentals without hurting everyone who uses them as truly light use sims - park land, or sailing water?

I further continue that having greater granularity for expansion was a good thing. Even if someone is willing to pay $75 for 1875 prims, it is analogous to what we are already used to - void sims coming in sets of four. The market was okay with that. They have now upset the balance, to a massive detrimental effect to many established businesses, new businesses, and tenants alike. Allowing us to buy them 1 at a time is still good, and would preserve the balance. Sailing sims like Nantucket wouldn't be harmed.

I am not for the increase. I think any price increase is terrible and think that controls do need to be implemented on the OSRs to make them unattractive for rental. I also said in a now long buried post that there is obviously a HUGE demand for a moderate use private land space that would fall between a full region and an OSR. I hope LL at least explores the possibility of such an option, because mainland just doesn't cut it for many. I know, I spent nearly a year on mainland before I finally took the plunge into island ownership, and always wished for an affordable island option before that happened.

I also always thought the OSRs were too expensive and robust for what LL said they should be used for. I would love to surround my island with water sims but think they are too much for what would be needed for water to just boat through.

Curses! *shakes fist*

(/best villain accent)

You have discovered the search function and the truth behind my evil 2-sim empire!
If you searched even further you would see where I stated in a post that I am renting the whole shebang to one renter who is using it for their own business. For full disclosure my post where I stated the facts about my one renter excluded the lair that I live on myself where I hatch my dastardly plots, and occasionally hang out with friends, play with my own toys and build.

Now if you discover the calculator on your computer you may also be able to unearth all my dirty financial secrets of how much I personally stand to gain by LL's price increase.

Here's a hint: 2 x 0 = 0

(/end best villain accent)

I have stated several times but since it took you a few days to learn how to use the search feature to unearth my evil empire, I'll state it again:

Misused openspaces drag down the grid. When the grid is down, it is bad for everyone. When the grid is up and functioning properly, it is better for everyone. Especially when transactions don't fail, inventory is not lost, etc.

My mainland position is liquid enough that I can flip in and out of it pretty rapidly. If they raised mainland tier I would celebrate by buying more estate sims. I own 15 openspaces and I really don't think it's going to be too tough to adapt to the new situation, especially given the ridiculously large amount of time I have to prepare.

Yes, it's a money grab. OpenSpaces are absurdly popular to the detriment of full estate sims and the mainland. This is because they are way too cheap. LL can raise the price, demand will remain high and they'll make more money. That makes me happy because an LL with more money is an LL that will still be around in 6 months time. Also, with more money LL will be able to distribute OpenSpaces 3 to a CPU instead of 4 for example and everyone will be better off.

Heck yeah.

What's your favorite band Snowflake ? The Trolling Stones??? Over 50 posts in two days purely to flame. Must suck not having anything else to do with your time

Elan, you and I have already discussed LL and their poor decision making a few times. They shake the market up anytime they feel like it. I think they do a very poor job and their attitude towards those that help pay their bills is horrible at best. You pay more than I do in tier and they don't give a squat what you think. I just don't see why you would be happy about that. I blame LL 100% for the current situation that they created and only care as much about their profit or losses as they do for mine. This situation could have been handled so much better than it was. No reason to run such a great world as poorly as they do. I'm surprised you aren't more pissed off at they way they carelessly screw with your investments here. Sure like you told me before the smart will survive but it takes people telling their friends and family about SL to help it grow. I have nothing positive to tell my friends about how this world is run and would only tell people I don't like to invest new money here. Negative word of mouth advertising is one of fastest ways to kill a successful business.

Oh JR, Of course you used to be so nice to me when you thought you were going to get some of my money. Is it just sour grapes because I never bought any mainland from you?

Oh behave Elan, a 67% increase in tier prices on one product is a kick in the bollocks for everyone.

People are getting burnt, once bitten, twice shy.

Yes, you caught me. Great job Sherlock, please tell Watson I said hi

How many open spaces do you own?? 0?? Yes, for sure you should keep trolling since you have so much to add to this all.

Actually now that I think about it, I think I did buy something from you back in the day.

You can ask Chris about my evil empire, apparently he has discovered how to use the search function today and is ready to expose all my nefarious plans to make huge profits in SL.

Because making a profit in SL is wrong, don'cha know?