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Am I going to lose my home Jack ?

Anukis Larnia
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Join date: 16 Jul 2008
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11-01-2008 15:24
I rent a tiny island which with time and many $L's I've terraformed and landscaped from a flat piece of sand into a beautifull little tropical paradise . . . .
. . . It's become my home here in SL in very real terms and given SL a whole new meaning for me . . and no doubt for many others like me .
. . . No one ever told us we weren't supposed to be here on these lands or that we're using too many prims . I for one understand nothing about these things nor the technicalities and politics involved . . . .

All I and others like me want know is . . .

. . . . . after LL has sat back and allowed this situation to develop for so long
. . . . . are we now going to lose our homes ?

Anukis
Yoki Enoch
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Join date: 19 Aug 2007
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11-01-2008 15:27
From: Anukis Larnia
I rent a tiny island which with time and many $L's I've terraformed and landscaped from a flat piece of sand into a beautifull little tropical paradise . . . .
. . . It's become my home here in SL in very real terms and given SL a whole new meaning for me . . and no doubt for many others like me .
. . . No one ever told us we weren't supposed to be here on these lands or that we're using too many prims . I for one understand nothing about these things nor the technicalities and politics involved . . . .

All I and others like me want know is . . .

. . . . . after LL has sat back and allowed this situation to develop for so long
. . . . . are we now going to lose our homes ?

Anukis


Yes, you are going to lose your home, unless you are willing to accept a significant increase in the continuing fee you are paying to the landlord, providing, of course, that the landlord will continue on with his/her open space sim.
Anukis Larnia
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Join date: 16 Jul 2008
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Just us innocent renters that are getting screwed . .
11-01-2008 16:06
>>" Lastly we will begin to proactively discuss overloaded Openspaces with their owners. This is important because as with abuse of region resources, a heavily overloaded Openspace can adversely affect other Openspaces sharing the same machine which is clearly unfair to residents who are using them responsibly. "<<


. . . I'm not abusing anything nor am I being irresponsible or unfair to anyone . . I just pay my rent use what I'm paying rent for as best I can and simply live here !

The only unfairness and lack of responsibility is that LL have allowed this situation to develop . . .

. . As always it's the innocent folk at the bottom of the ladder that end up getting screwed !
Yoki Enoch
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11-01-2008 18:25
From: Anukis Larnia
>>" Lastly we will begin to proactively discuss overloaded Openspaces with their owners. This is important because as with abuse of region resources, a heavily overloaded Openspace can adversely affect other Openspaces sharing the same machine which is clearly unfair to residents who are using them responsibly. "<<


. . . I'm not abusing anything nor am I being irresponsible or unfair to anyone . . I just pay my rent use what I'm paying rent for as best I can and simply live here !

The only unfairness and lack of responsibility is that LL have allowed this situation to develop . . .

. . As always it's the innocent folk at the bottom of the ladder that end up getting screwed !


You are one of many getting screwed. LL management thinks its only those who pay tier directly to LL for open spaces who are being screwed. In actualy fact, tens of thousands of SL resident are, or will feel the full effects very shortly.
Briana Dawson
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11-01-2008 18:33
My partner abandoned an OS sim we had 1 couple living on, today, and we are selling our Full Island Estate sim and going to use the funds to get a full sim on the mainland.

I guess life wont be so bad at 1000meters.
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Vye Graves
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11-01-2008 19:06
From: Briana Dawson
My partner abandoned an OS sim we had 1 couple living on, today, and we are selling our Full Island Estate sim and going to use the funds to get a full sim on the mainland.

I guess life wont be so bad at 1000meters.


You don't feel the least bit odd doing this when there is a pretty good chance they will back down on at least some of this in response to outrage or legal scrutiny? Won't you be sad come january when they decide instead to go another, more honest, route?

Why leave now?
Briana Dawson
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11-01-2008 21:17
From: Vye Graves
You don't feel the least bit odd doing this when there is a pretty good chance they will back down on at least some of this in response to outrage or legal scrutiny? Won't you be sad come january when they decide instead to go another, more honest, route?

Why leave now?


I do not think there is a pretty good chance they will back down. Any increase is a bad one for us and reflects what the future of Island Sim tier will be. We are just getting out while we can still get something.

When we ordered our sim, Nina paid $1675 usd, and before we took delivery the price was dropped to $1000.

And then there are the other times in the past when LL has burned me.

We are playing it safe, and not giving LL the benefit of the doubt this time because if we do give them the benefit of the doubt. and they in turn raise island tier prices, then we get nothing but a full sim to abandon with no money to show for it to invest in a mainland sim replacement.

I'd rather risk leaving and them not increasing Island Tier than staying only to have them hike up the price and we get nothing in return but a loss.
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Talla Slade
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11-01-2008 22:03
From: Briana Dawson
We are playing it safe, and not giving LL the benefit of the doubt this time because if we do give them the benefit of the doubt. and they in turn raise island tier prices, then we get nothing but a full sim to abandon with no money to show for it to invest in a mainland sim replacement.

I'd rather risk leaving and them not increasing Island Tier than staying only to have them hike up the price and we get nothing in return but a loss.



I really don't understand you, Briana. I have seen you be so negetive towards the protest and yet you are loosing like the rest of us and not for the first time.

I personally don't believe LL is listening to any of the reasoned arguements. They want money, plain and simple so letting them have it full in the face what we think to my mind is the only way there could ever be an outside chance they might re-consider.

I take the view that encouraging people to look at the alternatives when they actually do exist is what will bother LL more than anything. It's hitting them in the pocket.

I even been warned to stop posting links to outside business' so I know that is hurting them.
Nina Stepford
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Posts: 3,373
11-01-2008 22:19
bri just finds it hard to admit what is obvious to so many others; that ll are greedy thieving unethical con-artist.
i think its due to her age. she fondly looks back on the days of logging onto the grid with 15 other people, half of them lindens, standing around in her system hair and linden skin talking with phil about a great new innovation... animations!
ahaha
ive actually seen the same sort of attitude from other oldbies. they have some sort of personal connection with the lindens that was developed back when lindens asked and listened. it really seems to blind them to the obvious today. i think its misplaced sentiment myself.
the lindens have abandoned you bri. they couldnt care less what you have accomplished or how you have benefited them. today its all about your $ and your in-world profit. they want it all for themselves and will stop at nothing to bleed you dry, and i am pretty sure that on an intellectual level you are aware of that.
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Briana Dawson
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11-02-2008 18:53
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Broccoli Curry
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11-03-2008 03:12
I've been here a while and I certainly have no misplaced loyalty to LL.

Yes, we are being screwed royally by LL in this issue.

Is there anything we can do about it? Apart from vent, probably not, because it's their playground and we either put up or shut up.

Having said that, it just goes back to what I've been saying all along - land is too expensive for the average user, so you either pay more than you want to, or do without.

Just like in the real world you have commercial and residential land taxes, so it should be in SL.

Why not have a basic rate for land costs, that is 50% of what today's prices are, and a 'traffic tax' in price brackets, up to the current prices, as an average over the month. If you're using more resources, you pay more for it (also screws those cheating with camping bots to make their crappy places look popular).

If you have a small store, or a home that perhaps once a month you throw a party for your friends, you pay the minimum.

If you have a club that has one big event every few days, you pay somewhere in the middle.

If you have a store with 50 camping bots lagging the place to death, you pay the maximum.

Of course there will always be people that cheat the system - and no system will ever be perfect - but at least it then addresses what is supposedly the real issue is, which is people 'overusing' land.
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