PRoblem with Vista 64
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Naiman Broome
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03-18-2009 12:40
Hello I cant post in the Jira couse not working for me so I post here ohope its ok ... I want to signal that I have a high end pc and runs great on vista 32 , tough with vista 64 I notice a lot of lag and an unexplicable slow down and step movement .... I downloaded the release candidate viewer wich is supposely for x86 architecture , I wonder if there is an x64 version? or if any fix will be undertaken?
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Gattz Gilman
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03-18-2009 21:13
I have a laptop with Vista x64 and SL runs fine. Which runs SL fine. If you are having trouble with framerates, make sure you have the most recent drivers. If you're using an Nvidia card, dont use the Crysis drivers as they can cause issues with SL. Basicly do a run down and make sure you have all the latest drivers.
If its a networking problem, check any firewalls. Make sure your network card also has the latest drivers.
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Zuleika Deere
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03-22-2009 07:19
I have no problems with Vista64 on my pc. Vista64 will not be faster than 32bits in many occasions, and it may even get long disk access times. But it should not slow you down that much in SL. http://4sysops.com/archives/vista-x64-vs-vista-x86-32-bit-or-64-bit-vista-edition/ Perhaps it is good to try and find out what causes the slowdown. I have problems for the last few weeks not caused by Vista or SL, but by the routing I take to various sims. I am sent through a few servers in Phoenix that look very wonky to me - always showing so much time that I start to suspect they are not computers but humans, copying the data in writing from one place to the next. Perhaps checking your disk access may give a clue, or try it with and without Aero. (Aero makes no difference for me - when SL is in Windowed mode Aero is automatically switched off. Anyhow, monitoring shows no difference at all)
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Sandro Barski
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Second Life crashes on hardware load
03-23-2009 20:23
Whell, on Windows XP it is running perfectly, on VISTA x64 it crashes everytime it scans for hardware. Yes I have newest drivers, i tried even alternative driver for graphic card, so no diference. Come on, manny people complains about that problem, please solve it.
Thx ACO.
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Lindal Kidd
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03-24-2009 09:08
Works fine for me here on both Vista Home Premium and Vista 64 Ultimate.
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Sephy McCaw
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03-24-2009 15:58
do you have ATI graphics card or an Nvidia If it is ATI make sure Catalyst AI is set to Standard and not advanced or it will continue to crash at start up
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Sarah36 Islay
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Vista
03-24-2009 18:19
When I had XP it ran okay. Now with Vista I have updated my drivers but everytime I have to install SL to play, otherwise the game won't run normal - getting freezing and forever rezzing.
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Leonaria Slade
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64 bit issues as well
03-24-2009 20:09
Running HP Pavilion with ATI 3200 with 256 dedicated memory, brand new machine, updated drivers, Vista home edition, crash any time I try to do anything in SL, or get device failure and recovery notices from Windows and SL ceases to respond. Seems to happen when I try to adjust bandwidth, media settings, or teleport in game.
Any clues or tweaks that might resolve this issue?
Thanks
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Nadine Zeid
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03-25-2009 01:44
From: Leonaria Slade Running HP Pavilion with ATI 3200 with 256 dedicated memory, brand new machine, updated drivers, Vista home edition, crash any time I try to do anything in SL, or get device failure and recovery notices from Windows and SL ceases to respond. Seems to happen when I try to adjust bandwidth, media settings, or teleport in game.
Any clues or tweaks that might resolve this issue?
Thanks I'm having almost the same thing happen. I've got a brand new Gateway with an ATI Radeon HD 3200 graphics card, running Vista 64 bit, I think I have 512 dedicated memory but not sure on that, have 4 gig ram, have updated drivers, and I updated yesterday to the newest release of the previewer. I can't even run the Release Candidate as I crash even before I can get into my home. Using the Previewer, I have to have my inventory refetch every time I crash (it didn't used to do that), everytime I try to TP, I crash, I even crashed when I tried to IM someone about mid-afternoon yesterday. I also crash whenever I try to adjust things like bandwidth, media settings, and graphics settings. This is getting very frustrating. I do know that SL gives me a message that my graphics card isn't recognized by them - would be nice as I don't have the bucks to go get another card just to run SL with and I need the card I have. My tech told me when I went to have him install my anti-virus and to make the recovery discs for me that I should have no problems whatsoever running SL as I have all of the above mentioned, plus I have a quad core processor. Any help would also be appreciated by me.
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Sephy McCaw
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03-25-2009 15:33
From: Sephy McCaw do you have ATI graphics card or an Nvidia If it is ATI make sure Catalyst AI is set to Standard and not advanced or it will continue to crash at start up try above or go to your CCC and set it to default, that should make everything standard and you should beable to log in
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Nadine Zeid
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03-26-2009 01:50
I finally had to resort to contacting Gateway support in order to get the ATI Catalyst download. I just checked, and all settings are as suggested by Sephy McCaw. Thank you for the information. I have had more success since I got the ATI Catalyst download - I still have horrible lag in certain viewing positions. Example: In my home, I will have my avi's back toward the wall and her facing the front of the house toward water. If I position camera to look out at the water, I have lag; however, when I turn cam the other way to look at avi's front and facing looking at the wall behind her, the lag disappears. I found this out by trial and error at home and at a couple of places I TP'd to. I also checked to make sure that 2 friends and I wearing AO's if the AO's were interfering and it didn't seem to be the case. All turned them off and 1 by 1 we turned them back on with no change in lag or no lag for me. Hopefully with the rolling restarts and the move of the servers to a different network, that might help - I will give this a few days before I do anything else - it may just need to work itself out.  Thanks for the help.
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Shockwave Yareach
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03-26-2009 08:07
From: Nadine Zeid I still have horrible lag in certain viewing positions. Example: In my home, I will have my avi's back toward the wall and her facing the front of the house toward water. If I position camera to look out at the water, I have lag; however, when I turn cam the other way to look at avi's front and facing looking at the wall behind her, the lag disappears. There is a griefing tool called Prism that can cause that. It's about 75 mega cubes with blank textures on them, all spinning wildly. When you face the cubes, the program draws the repeating textures over huge swaths of screenspace, even though the texture is completely clear. And all the llTargetOmegas on the cubes makes your viewer slow to a crawl when they are visible. While this doesn't harm a sim, it renders anything within viewable range to be so laggy that it's useless. Set your viewer to Make Transparent Visible and see if something invisible is killing your viewer. You can also try lowering your Draw Distance and see if the problem goes away.
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Lindal Kidd
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03-26-2009 10:27
or it could just be the video card drivers aren't handling water very well. Turn off reflections and see if that helps your lag problem.
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Cameron Trenchcoat
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I feel your pain...
03-29-2009 13:39
Having the same issues on a PC identical to the one you described. It may have building over the last few days as right now I am suspect of everything, but downloaded the update viewer yesterday and have been having issues every since. Interestingly enough, everything seemed to have recovered itself at about 4AM this morning, but is now acting up again. PC issue? Viewer issue? Network and ISP issue? My issue!
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Flew Voom
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crashes
04-03-2009 04:02
I keep having crashed with this release. Somtimes with region border crossing, but especialy when i try to TP...that causes instant crash. Really 9 out of 10 TP's = crash :/
edit: i also notice that when i crash the crash logger does not send a report anymore, while i have set it to auto.
I have just updated all the drivers and the problem remains.
CPU: Intel Core 2 Series Processor (1995 MHz) Memory: 3070 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista Service Pack 1 (Build 6001) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce 9300 GE/PCI/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 2.1.2
libcurl Version: libcurl/7.16.4 OpenSSL/0.9.7c zlib/1.2.3 J2C Decoder Version: KDU Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.740000 LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.22908 (Mozilla GRE version
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Triple Peccable
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04-03-2009 12:27
I'm not familiar with the Geforce 9300 card, but make absolutely you are using the latest drivers from NVidia's website, not the video drivers that came with the card or was already installed on the computer.
It isn't Vista 64, I have been running that for quite a while now with 2 SL viewers running simultaneously, with no problems (after I updated my video drivers, that is).
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Nadine Zeid
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04-03-2009 18:40
From: Lindal Kidd or it could just be the video card drivers aren't handling water very well. Turn off reflections and see if that helps your lag problem. I have had nothing but trouble with this newest version. I tried uninstalling and installing previous versions. All of them tell me that this version is now a forced update so I had no choice. I have tried almost everything from graphics settings to catalyst settings. I turned off reflections and it seems to help a small amount with the lag problem. However, I crash at least 7 out of 10 tries to TP anywhere. My internet connection speed is up to 7 Mbps - I'm going to see in the next few days if I can get it upgraded to 12 Mbps and maybe I'll see a difference. I sure hope so. I hope SL/LL gets these problems fixed in the next upgrade as it sure is ruining my SL experience.
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B00tsy Compton
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04-06-2009 05:35
From: Triple Peccable I'm not familiar with the Geforce 9300 card, but make absolutely you are using the latest drivers from NVidia's website, not the video drivers that came with the card or was already installed on the computer.
It isn't Vista 64, I have been running that for quite a while now with 2 SL viewers running simultaneously, with no problems (after I updated my video drivers, that is). I am using the latest drivers. Stiil after every TP on arrival i crash instantly...as in the viewer closes. It doesnt even send a crash report. Anywho, I went back to the previous viewer and the problem is solved. I will never update my viewer again unless its mandatory. lesson learned.
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Flew Voom
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04-06-2009 05:41
From: Triple Peccable I'm not familiar with the Geforce 9300 card, but make absolutely you are using the latest drivers from NVidia's website, not the video drivers that came with the card or was already installed on the computer.
It isn't Vista 64, I have been running that for quite a while now with 2 SL viewers running simultaneously, with no problems (after I updated my video drivers, that is). I have the latest drivers installed, but i still crash after every TP. I went back to the previous viewer and the constant TP crash problem is gone. I will never update the viewer again unless its mandatory. Lesson learned.
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Nadine Zeid
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04-06-2009 22:57
From: Flew Voom I have the latest drivers installed, but i still crash after every TP. I went back to the previous viewer and the constant TP crash problem is gone.
I will never update the viewer again unless its mandatory. Lesson learned. @Flew Voom: Same thing here. Do you have a link to a good version to use - the last time I tried to go back, it would not let me log on using 2 or 3 previous versions without doing the update to the current one. Thanks.
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Lindal Kidd
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04-07-2009 07:50
I'd say, maybe add more RAM. 3 GB should be OK, but is a bit on the low side for SL with Vista. I have 4 GB in my laptop and 6 GB in the desktop, and run with no problems.
An NVIDIA 9300 should, again, be OK, but is a little on the low side. An 8800 or 9800, or one of the new 200 series cards would be better.
3 MB/s DSL connection here. 12? That's a crazy big pipeline.
But before making any hardware or ISP changes, dig into your Windows configuration. Vista runs a crazy lot of junk that you don't need and that slows you down or interferes. Find one of the Windows "tweaks" sites and start going through your system one thing at a time.
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Wildlobo Skytower
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Windows vista 64 and Nivada GXT 280
06-20-2009 13:18
I'm having the same problem with viewer 1.23 crashing on log in. One time last night i was able to be on for 10 min before crashing. The rest of the time i can not get past the log on.
I have updated all drivers and submitted the problem to support. The last word from support was sorry we can not help you ( we don't support Vista 64 nor GXT 280 Video cards )
Sound like they are not going to change with the times.
Most new computer are coming with 64 bit operation systems and newer video cards. my CPU is the Intel i7 295 and according to them they are not aware of it. (see below)
CPU: Intel Pentium III core (unknown model, 0.18 micron process) with internal L2 cache (3207 MHz) Memory: 8182 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 280/PCI/SSE2 Windows Graphics Driver Version: 8.15.0011.8618 OpenGL Version: 3.0.0
libcurl Version: libcurl/7.18.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3 J2C Decoder Version: KDU Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.740000 LLMozLib Version: [LLMediaImplLLMozLib] - 2.01.24790 (Mozilla GRE version 1.8.1.21_0000000000)
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