SL CLIENT 1.23.4 going official without shadows?

Just mentioned that 1.23.4 is now an official update, but everytime I am switching on shadows I crash...

I have some font issues as they look kinda crooked, the whole menubars look a bit blurry, tried resizing fonts and UI nothing worked really, *sighs*

anyone else having these issues?

Shadows in RC 1.23 are experimental and unsupported. They're the same way in the official client 1.23. And I was able to turn them on the same way I've been doing throughout the 1.23 history.

But in the official release and the last version of the RC does seem more crash prone.

My fonts all cut off about halfway through the letters. Everything looks like someone forgot to change the ink in the typewriter. Any windows I have open also jiggle like jello.

I also tried resizing and the UI. Nothing changed it.

exact the same problem then mine ANd whenever i switch on Shadows i instantly crash

Ok, I am likely missing it under something really obvious, but where do you enable shadows at?

The weird thing about the horrid half type, is that it is only on one computer. It doesn't do that on my newer laptop. Can it be specific to older computers?

I have the problem on a computer running Windows XP, 3800+ AMD Athlon 64 processor, 2.39 GHz, 1.0 G.B ram and an ATI 2900 Graphics card. Its about 3 years old.

I have uninstalled and reinstalled the client. I still have the installation for the older version to fall back on, but will likely just switch to Cool Viewer or something instead.

Try turning off AA, whether it be in the viewer or your driver software

Installed the new official client myself a few mins ago and no shadows for me.

Turned off AA in graphics prefs hardware options, but still nothing at all.

The shadow code was nowhere near being ready for prime time.

To enable them, you need to set the debug setting RenderuseFBO and RenderDeferred to true (in that order, I think).

I believe you also need to have hardware skinning enabled.

You also need to be on the Windows OS and be running one of a VERY limited list of extreme high-end video cards.

Mac or Linux? Forget about shadows. Not any time soon, for you.

Shadows have promise, but are still "bleeding edge" and only work for a very limited subset of high-end Windows users.

A Radeon 3650 is not an "extreme high-end" card but it does support SL shadows.

$49.99 at Newegg. -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102726

Shadows actually do work on some Macs. I've gotten them to work on an iMac Core Duo with a Radeon X1600 (too slow to he useable) and a new Macbook Pro with the Nvidia 9400M and 9600M graphics adapters.

I don't care about shadows. I don't care about water reflections. I don't care about 75% of what LL viewer develpors are working on. I DO care that my avatar doesn't move when I hit the move keys. I'm so tired of uparrow, uparrow, uparrow, uparrow, uparrow, uparrow, uparrow, uparrow, uparrow - and finally - avatar move, avatar move, avatar move too far, avatar move too far, avatar move too far, avatar move too far, avatar move too far, avatar move too far, avatar move too far, avatar move too far, avatar move too far.

And I have given up riding a motorcycle or sailing a ship across sim boundaries. I have given up on learning and developing vehicle scripts.

My 1.5 year old video card, that wasn't even high end when I bought it, runs shadows just fine. Nvidia 8600 512mb pci-e, I think I payed around $80 for it on frys.com.

I just noticed an Nvidia 9600 768mb pci-e on frys for $80.

I did a test on the RC shadow viewer, the latest release, and what I find more useful than the shadows is that I had 20 light sources all working at once.

I guess this is the real reason they dumped Windows 2000.

nVidia refuses to install on Windows 2000 with recent drivers, you have to hack the installer to use an 8000 or 9000 series card.

Who cares about shadows? What about scalability? What about endless lag? What about recommended hardware which does not even run the basical shaders adeqquately? What about 3,100 open issues and bugs on the JIRA?

Get your act together, LL, and stop fooling around like schoolboys playing with the latest little unsupported toys, messing up the outdated rendering engine comletely.

Tip: be careful when you make false statements - that usually works against your reliability.


In fact, I'm happily using shadows on SL Linux since 2008, just by compiling Linden Lab sources (there are instructions on our wiki), and I'm not using an high-end video card - let alone an "extreme high-end video card". I have a Nvidia GT9600.

I could even compile the 'render-pipeline' sources without much effort, and that allowed me to preview Projected Textures feature, that really kicks asses - e.g. you can project a video stream or a web page over prims, and that will cast shadows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHF6y_iqTi8
http://www.youtube.com/user/opensourceobscure

Thats great news! New Macbook Pro for me in September 2009.