Why aren't there any viewerupdates?
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Ryder Dryke
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10-15-2009 04:26
Has development for the Secondlife Viewer stopped? We haven't seen any updates since Second Life 1.23.4 - June 15, 2009. Additional there wasn't even a new RC or FirstLook.
There have been cool projects in the past. I remember the time when WindLight came. Torley promised us in his awesome videos that we could share skies like other assets in the future. Thats happened nearly 2 years ago.
It was told we would get the glow-feature we can use on prims for particles. I don't see it. I remember that some Linden said it might be possible to map the cool WindLight-water on a normal prim with a special texture. Nothing. There were rumors that we would get some new Speedtrees or maybe the old ones would be updated for the faster viewers. Too bad we don't have them and I'm not speaking of native shadows.
But I'm asking ... why isn't there any progress?
(Ok there is 1.23.5 now but not with any visible changes which I would expect 10.000+ builds later.)
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Lance Corrimal
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10-15-2009 04:38
because the lindens are too busy breaking the grid as a whole?
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Beowulf Blackburn
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10-15-2009 05:01
Maybe the Lindens downloaded the Emerald Viewer and are watching the bouncing boobs now 
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Quacken Nightfire
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10-15-2009 05:19
They are working on something called Viewer 2.0 (previously known as Viewer 2009). From what we know it will include redesigned GUI, the media plugin interface and maybe mesh import (and probably some other stuff). It's been suggested that the viewer should be released by the end of the year, but we all know how time estimates work in Linden Lab.
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Lance Corrimal
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10-15-2009 05:22
From: Beowulf Blackburn Maybe the Lindens downloaded the Emerald Viewer and are watching the bouncing boobs now  emerald? bouncy boobies? ???? ok i know emerald, tried it out, not that bad actually... but i didnt notice any bouncing boobs...
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Beowulf Blackburn
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10-15-2009 06:40
Well it is a step in the right direction that Emerald does, enhancing physics, including AO in the Viewer as long as a Radar, which minimizes Use of additonal Huds for eahc and helps reducing lag a bit and also improves TPs... and yes the enw release has bouncing boobs 
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Kahni Poitier
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it doesn't matter
10-16-2009 04:36
From: Quacken Nightfire They are working on something called Viewer 2.0 (previously known as Viewer 2009). And I'll pretty much put money on it that THAT one won't support ATI cards either. So far, LL has dropped every single ball they've tried to juggle. I have zero faith left. adult content = borked grid stability = borked viewer comparability = borked web page redesign = boprked merging with Xstreet = borked land values = borked Again, I have zero faith in a new viewer.
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Quacken Nightfire
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10-16-2009 05:28
Kahni, IMO the "new" viewer isn't going to be that much new. The "2.0" moniker is more marketing tool than anything else. It will be just another version of the current viewer, but with somewhat more complex changes than usual. It's not like they're rewriting everything from scratch.
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Ryder Dryke
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10-21-2009 11:07
Too bad that LindenLabs wont even comment this issue.
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Micheil Merlin
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10-29-2009 21:13
I just wish for once, there would be a viewer update or server update or some update somewhere that would have some noticeable positive impact on texture loading. I keep thinking that it can't get any worse and then it does.
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June Oh
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11-02-2009 06:37
Judging by the number of Green Group/Name Tags I would say 50% to 66% of SL users now on the Emerald Vewer so is there any need of a Linden Viewer? Rather surprises me so many on Emerald as is is so much slower than Linden Viewers, are they on it just for natural movement of breasts? I rather like the Emeral feature of Double click to walk to another piont on the ground.
Do we think Linden will add the good things of Emerald? Love, June
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Ryder Dryke
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12-09-2009 04:04
sure the emerald viewer is great. but why do we have alternate viewers? because people want features LL wont add to the viewer.
but it is a fact that the emerald team cant add certain features. especially not those which do need serversupport.
also big changes cant be done by 3rd party viewers. this includes things which LL has promised us but never made true.
when you look into the changelogs of the viewer from the first half of 2009 you see lots of - tons of fixes and additions. but only 2 changes in the 2nd half year and those changes werent really useful. you cant tell me that there are no bugs to fix since the 1.23.5 viewer. the servercode was updated lots of time since then. so why not update the viewercode as well?
simply the fact that there is no convincing explanation and not even ONE word from LL is a bad sign for me and i guess lots of other residents. personally i think LL wants to keep the ball low while the ship is slowly sinking. if they WOULD develop the viewer still ... then they would publish the progress. wouldnt they?
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Shirley Marquez
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What about Snowglobe?
12-09-2009 07:17
Development on the viewer has been continuing, it's just that the effort has been going into the LL/open source collaboration, Snowglobe, rather than into new "official" viewers. I expect to see a Snowglobe-based official viewer sometime in the future.
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Tegg Bode
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12-10-2009 01:54
Snowglobe is the replacement for the standard viewer but it will be dropped like a week old fish when the 2010 Megaviewer 2.0 is released which after 6 months of LL secret development and Hype will have less cool stuff & features than the current Emerald Viewer does and probably more bugs than any other LL release 
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Hurana Ugajin
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12-10-2009 17:21
Must be... Just look at what they have done to the Grid today, Asset server still trashed... ALL communication channels down, so nothing requiring an external Server will work....
YAY..... GO Linden Labs!!... nice way to import a new function.... Use the effin test grid then roll it over....
I am loosing my A$$ in $$$$$ waiting on them.. they have had the Asset server down since Saturday morning. ANd they are keeping all a secret
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Marigold Devin
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12-10-2009 17:47
From: Beowulf Blackburn Maybe the Lindens downloaded the Emerald Viewer and are watching the bouncing boobs now  LOLs and reaches for the Tenalady
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Effing Euler
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Emerald vs. LL
12-25-2009 08:56
Actually as a customer service mentor for a large SL based company with over 20,000 SL customers.. Emerald gives us the ability to eject and ban those Avatars that decide to arrive on our sims to cause general lag discomfort and general assinine behaviors. I can TP around and with just three keys and two click of my mouse i can eject and ban an offender and not worry about it. The "official" viewer has no option of this and in my opinion is extremely lagging in features that some of the other viewers out there offer.
Also as a builder the additional prim shapes that Emerald has, that LL has not seen fit to provide us in the "normal" viewer, provides a little more leeway in the building functions of the game.
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Charles2 McCaw
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Mesh Support
01-03-2010 08:59
From: Quacken Nightfire They are working on something called Viewer 2.0 (previously known as Viewer 2009). From what we know it will include redesigned GUI, the media plugin interface and maybe mesh import (and probably some other stuff). It's been suggested that the viewer should be released by the end of the year, but we all know how time estimates work in Linden Lab. I keep hearing phrases like "mesh support" and "mesh upload." Can someone give a quick explanation of what all the mesh talk is about?
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-03-2010 10:06
Sigh. If I'm understanding things properly none of the viewers with the new llMediaPlugin work properly on my system.
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Scree Raymaker
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01-04-2010 03:41
From: Charles2 McCaw I keep hearing phrases like "mesh support" and "mesh upload." Can someone give a quick explanation of what all the mesh talk is about? When you look at most things in Second Life or any other 3d environment you're looking at a mesh. At the moment, the only way to get our own meshes into Second Life is to use sculpted prims, which puts a limit on what you can create. People want to be able to import meshes using a standard format used in 3d creation programs so they can create more detailed or more efficient meshes than what is possible using sculpted prims.
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Argent Stonecutter
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01-04-2010 05:14
From: Quacken Nightfire Kahni, IMO the "new" viewer isn't going to be that much new. I wish that were true.
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