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Kadisha Capalini
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05-04-2007 13:34
Hi. I am here to complain on a large basis about SL services... For now, excuse my misuse of English langage and usual faults, for I am french speaking. Like most of the services in RL, SL is making us feel that reliability is one of the less important pattern supported by Linden Labs.... Tell me people, most of us do really care of a ||Getf***** function, as most of us are unable to even understand them, even more use them ? SL went really bad since 7 february 2007, that day of my first logon on that virtual world. I can't talk of past days, of course, but all the comments I could read about that tells me it is getting worse and worse... I am not here for doing more comments of how bad it turned, but more to ask some question: What do you expect from us when we get such a bad experience ? Myself, I stopped land dealing, I am thinking about stoping any business in SL, even more, stoping spending my RL money here... Why for ? Well it is quite easy to guess: SL in unreliable. I can get thrown up at any time, getting such bad experience as loosing expensive inventory, can't see important contacts online, losing friends by these issues ("how have you been ? long time no see! " "You are kidding ? I have been online everyday !"  And I am not speaking about credit card issues, linden dollar mistransfer, and on and on and on...."Region gone down...", avatar fuckup, unable to teleport, invisible avatars, hairs between legs., avatars thrown up in the air after a sitting...God ! How are you supposed to hope to get a proper "Second life" in these conditions ? As most of my contacts says "when the money comes in, no reason to care". But YOU have to care. Because soon, some wise businessmen will throw another Online game, called "Third life" or whatever, and we will all switch on that.... We are soon going to experience a major crash in that place, as everyday long timers in SL are starting to get fed up of all these... I am really spending less money because of that issues, trust me, and this is such a shame for all of us. Still, some crazy fools buys and buys, hoping that we all have some better days later.....But....permit me to have some doubt about it... What are you waiting for building some reliable servers for us to enjoy fully this experience ? That most of us leave enough that place to have a proper use of existing ones ? You are counting on our silence, saying to yourself that few of us will spread the word outside the Lindens Lab facilities ? Wake up Lindens Heads, for we know your soldiers are doing the best to provide the best service they can, while you expect them to shoot elephants with a sling ? I know you make money with us, but don't underestimate some of us, because we could have the keys in our possessions to make you live you worst nightmare.... Please make SL reliable, or soon you'll pay for it, as we all do everyday by putting our virtual feets in a less and less pleasant world. Thanks to all that fight that issues.
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Brenda Connolly
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05-04-2007 14:32
Not badly said at all. And I agree with it. 
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Ee Maculate
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05-04-2007 14:50
I do wish people whose first language is not English wouldn't apologise every time they post. It's all part of being a global family and I'm sure no-one here minds. If anything us English speakers should be apologising for being so lazy and expecting everyone to speak our language! If I had to post in French, German, Chinese etc. I'd be in BIG trouble. Even the translation to American doesn't always go smoothly 
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Susanne Pascale
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05-04-2007 14:58
Agree withthe two previous posters. Your English is fine and I agree with what you say too.
Good point about how LAZY many of us US English speakers are about learning another language. One of the REALLY COOL things about SL is my spanish is getting better! I live in the South West, US [Los Angeles, CA] where there are many, many spanish speakers. I had Spanish in HS and college, forgotton most of it and now re learning it. I love running into Spanish speakers in world and will chat withthem forevvver in my rathe rpoor Spanish. Also, so many Europeans are multi lingual and a lot of Eurolanguages are latin based, often times French, Italian and Portuguese speakers can carryon a conversation with me. I love this!! Just to be able to stumble around in alanguage I don't speak very well and actually communicate with aperson from another country, another culture. This is priceless.
Sooner or later, I am going to get the courage to visit some Spanish language sims. My expereince has been that most Spanish speakers are incredibly nice and polite, so I fear no rudeness. I just don't want to slow them down with my poor Spanish.
Maybe I should try French too!!
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Haravikk Mistral
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05-05-2007 05:14
Most native English speakers can't write as clearly or succintly as the original poster  I've seen far worse from American or Brittish posters. And what was said was well said and I wholeheartedly agree, I'm finding it more and more difficult to bring myself onto SL, even though my business is doing quite well. Things that hooked me at the start, namely; talking and interacting with people in-world and exploring have gotten more and more painful to do. They, along with building are kind of fundamental to the game, and if they don't work for lag then it's a sorry state of things indeed.
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05-05-2007 08:26
From: Haravikk Mistral Most native English speakers can't write as clearly or succintly as the original poster  I've seen far worse from American or Brittish posters. The second half is why I will relentlessly correct people who can't write. The first half is when I don't. (I've run into "I only know English" speakers who refuse to use any form of punctuation)
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05-05-2007 15:13
From: Draco18s Majestic The second half is why I will relentlessly correct people who can't write. The first half is when I don't. (I've run into "I only know English" speakers who refuse to use any form of punctuation) Well I tend to think the net is evolving it's own version of English, abreviations like SMS text etc, because it needs to be as fast as possible and if commas and punctuation aren't necessary in communication then I guess they get axed. So you can can't handle the Local accents & slang used in a place then bad luck I guess. ROFL's etc and ZOMG's don't bother me at all really (but I still don't know what the Z stands for)
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Haravikk Mistral
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05-05-2007 15:29
Typing isn't exactly slow, if it takes you so long to type PROPERLY then just learn to type. The extra time lets you consider what you're writing in the first place instead of just going "OMG U KNOB".
But I think this is getting off topic, quote and go to another thread. This thread's about SL's unrealiability, it's the biggest fault as new features don't count for squat if none of the fundamentals can be relied upon.
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05-05-2007 17:16
From: Tegg Bode Well I tend to think the net is evolving it's own version of English, abreviations like SMS text etc, because it needs to be as fast as possible and if commas and punctuation aren't necessary in communication then I guess they get axed. So you can can't handle the Local accents & slang used in a place then bad luck I guess. ROFL's etc and ZOMG's don't bother me at all really (but I still don't know what the Z stands for) Some of that I can understand, however there are some instances where that punctuation does matter. Take RPing for example. If you do not use anything to indicate where the action stops and the speaking begins, then things get very confusing. In a medium such as the forum it is generally understood that this is speaking text, therefore I use asterisks. *Holds up a sign* SL is a little different because the /me doesn't use a preceeding asterisk as IRC does (where the convention above originates from), so to designate spoken words in a /me I use double-quotes. /me does an example, "Like this" Imagine what it'd be like without any of that.
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Tegg Bode
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05-05-2007 21:17
From: Draco18s Majestic Some of that I can understand, however there are some instances where that punctuation does matter. Take RPing for example. If you do not use anything to indicate where the action stops and the speaking begins, then things get very confusing.
In a medium such as the forum it is generally understood that this is speaking text, therefore I use asterisks. *Holds up a sign* SL is a little different because the /me doesn't use a preceeding asterisk as IRC does (where the convention above originates from), so to designate spoken words in a /me I use double-quotes. /me does an example, "Like this"
Imagine what it'd be like without any of that. All very true, I was refering to OOC talk really, yes RP needs it's identifyers to tell you what mode the chat is of course and describe actions 
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Kadisha Capalini
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05-06-2007 14:33
Thanks for all your message about my capacity of doing efforts about my typing. But well, as said Harravik, we are leaving the main topic...
Maybe I am asking too much, but is it possible to have some Official answer about SL reliability ?
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Colette Meiji
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05-06-2007 18:53
From: Kadisha Capalini Thanks for all your message about my capacity of doing efforts about my typing. But well, as said Harravik, we are leaving the main topic...
Maybe I am asking too much, but is it possible to have some Official answer about SL reliability ? would be nice. Perhaps go on the blog and read the townhall transcript thats the closest thing your going to get as to a comment on their reliability I think.
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Kadisha Capalini
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05-07-2007 00:04
Alas, probably... It is quite nice, we got another place to complain in the desert then...
More seriously, nothing can be done about all these ? I mean, why not putting some registering threshold, as some usual platforms does ? And a clean in dead accounts ? What about offering extra billing to people who's inventories brake over 5000 objects ?
We are used to prim counts in land owning, "Inventory wise" commands could be a way to avoid people to keep a bunch of unused newbie stuff they have for ages...
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05-07-2007 04:32
/111/1f/106305/2.html#post1373895 is about things we can do about lag, the main cause of our problem.
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Draco18s Majestic
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05-07-2007 07:42
From: Tegg Bode All very true, I was refering to OOC talk really, yes RP needs it's identifyers to tell you what mode the chat is of course and describe actions  OOC stuff: maybe. There are still instances where the lack of a period can radically change the meaning of a sentence or three. For example: Dear John I want a man who knows what love is all about you are generous kind thoughtful people who are not like you admit to being useless and inferior you have ruined me for other men I yearn for you I have no feelings whatsoever when we're apart I can be forever happy will you let me be yours Gloria http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2007/importance-of-punctuation-p1.phpThe person I had who refused to use puncuation was doing RP stuff without punctuation. Even pointing this "love/hate" letter out to him didn't change him (instead it perpetuated a very large forum flamewar). From: Kadisha Capalini Thanks for all your message about my capacity of doing efforts about my typing. But well, as said Harravik, we are leaving the main topic... But everyone knows that a thread can't stay on topic for more than 15 posts!
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Kadisha Capalini
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05-07-2007 15:20
Thanks Ed gobo for some usual maintenance stuffs we all have to know... But well, there are much more breakdowns not coming for our local settings and wipe outs, huh ?
R-E-L-I-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y.
This is what I am speaking about again...
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