Residents blocking waterways

I try to cruise the open waters in my boats and have noticed more and more landowners setting up banlines out into open water and narrow passages preventing any movement through the area. Or the landowner builds to the maximum of their prim limit which prevents passage thru the property by a boat. It typically crashes your boat and you have to tp to another location to recover, or even relog. I've even seen landowners close off narrow passages that are critical to navigate from one large body of water to another. I think we need some regulations. I've never actually seen a landowner on their property when this happens.

Sadly, if they own the land, they can do what they want with it..

SVC-22 is the issue that's killing you on full parcels - you can vote for that here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-22.

I have land that has a water frontage and I dont want to put up ban lines for that very reason. I also dont want to put them up so that ppl can fly over the land but unfortunately some ppl fail to read or respect private places and will enter our home and use the items inside.
At times I get to the point of being fed up resetting scripts where they have messed them up that i close the land to group only

I say, no individual has the right to block major waterways, for the public good, I believe linden lab should create a rule to take over that property.

Set up some poseballs that unsit and eject/ban people not on a whitelist.

There are several security systems that allow for zone control rather than radius area coverage.

I use such a system to ensure privacy inside a building but allow public access to the gardens. The zone covers from bottom left corner to top right corner of the building. The doors to the building are locked and the only way to breach the security is to cam inside and sit on a pose ball. If someone tries this they are asked to leave within ten seconds or are transported to their home location.

Talus

For clarity: The zone is a box bounded by lower, front, left (x,y,z) and top, back, right (x2,y2,z2) co-ordinates.

You want LL to confiscate someone's property because you can't get on it?

No resident has the right to block public waterways - if you find one blocked, tell LL and they will remove the blockage.

If LL doesn't own the land, it's not a public waterway...

The problem is that many major waterways are not public (Linden, protected) land.

Err, I mean water.

You know what I mean.



The solution is new public waterways.

For example, http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1470.

They just need to stop selling water sims that are right inbetween waterfront sims and Linden water sims. I had that issue with my old mainland property. I had waterfront but could not get my boat to the Linden water sims because there was a water sim owned by residents seperating the two and the builds on the water were always border to border with security orbs on top of that.

Never made sense to me why they did things like that.

They also need to buy back portions of sims on enclosed waterways.

Its not only wiht banlines the problem is
more and more buy the dang stupidt
sim enlarger reefs, often sculpted megaprim
wiht 1024 textures and scriptet waves and
splash and put them out in linden water.
Also more commen to build bridges over
rivers, docks.. or undwater things blocking
access.. and its difficult to get Linden to
remove it and clear the access..

And general around this and speciel banlines
is the water channels often is to narrow to
modern SL vehicles to be good



Bertram Merlin

Being an SL sailor, I feel your pain, Blaze.

People can be awfully thoughtless. But, it IS their land. If they want to terraform or build on it rather than leave it as open water, they've paid for that right.

I don't blame the residents. I blame LL, for not leaving enough Linden-owned water for passage.

Some tips:

ctrl-alt-shft-P turns on the property lines, so you can see the protected route (although the perspective in deep water still makes it tricky).

There is a ban-line detector HUD available here for L$499 : http://slurl.com/secondlife/Talakin/241/211/22 (it doesn't see into the next sim though and make sure you wear it BEFORE you sit on your vehicle, as the new sim version has a glitch which disables the scripts on your vehicle if you wear it after already sitting).

Making a vehicle TEMP before you sit will allow you to use it in a sim which has no spare prims (it won't disappear until you unsit).

My place is on a beautiful wide water inlet. I have a small village and harbour. i cannot access the sea and it drives me wild.Its not Linden water and I knew that when I bought .My neighbour owns the complete sim next door but chooses to cover the water almost totally .Nothing I can do but it sucks.
In my opinion if there is water ,any water it should be left alone apart from bridges and docks etc. Otherwise whats the point of it.

I think you need a Wormhole script. Whoosh, straight through and out the other side of the closed properties.
Yes. No, It doesn't exist. I just made it up.

As an avid aviator I come across many problems that the sailors and the drivers get.

The biggest pain in the ass is full parcels.

The best solution i can think of is to have it so that. should the vehicle cross into a full parcel, the vehicle is given a set period of time (within proportion to distance to travel thus allowing plenty of time for region sized parcels) to clear through the parcel or face auto-return.

Even better is, if possible get it to calculate the max speed of the vehicle and the longest possible route. then set the time frame with a 35% margin of error OR a time cap, which ever is lowest (to prevent abuse of the system)

We have no need of any such program. Linden Labs has an even better solution. Vehicles don't count against the parcel quota. Period. That's already implemented. It used to even work. They just Lindened it up a few years back and have been unable to fix it since.

If you make it temp before you sit, you will pass through sims which are "full" with prims...the ones full of avatars are just bad news.

I've had my motorcycle returned when I entered a "full" sim. And one day I found a mainland beach (Carribean slave traders) with many many water sims to the east and had a blast sailing until I hit two sims with buildings/walkways blocking my path in the water. There was much more open water to the east but no way to get there (unless I edited my ship and moved it).