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Leinad Meriman

Registered User

Join date: 25 Jun 2007

Posts: 1

08-23-2007 12:12

I am very unhappy with LL and how the tier tax is billed. To help a friend I purchased a 512m2 parcel next to mine and 5 minutes later I sold the person my original parcel to expand her land. I owned 1024 m2 for 5 minutes and I was taxed $5.00 .

I have tried to resolve this inequity with Linden Labs without success. I get automated no-reply responses that ignore the fundamental unfairness fo this taxation. So LL has a horrible tax system that is unfair and it has poor, impersonal customer service.

So I bring this issue to the forum. We have unfair taxation without representation in SL.

Dan Power aka Leinad Meriman
Editor, DSSResources.com and DSS News
Prof. of Information Systems

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This is the most recent message I received. In all I have had 3 emails on this issue.

Subject: Ticket #4051-4237443: Sent Final Solution (email response)
From: "Linden Lab - Support" <no-reply@secondlife.com>
Date: Thu, August 23, 2007 9:51 am
To: [email]power@dssresources.com[/email]

THIS IS AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE, PLEASE DO NOT DIRECTLY REPLY TO THIS
EMAIL.

We have solved your issue

Solution:

Hello, Leinad Meriman

Thank you for contacting us, I see the reason you dont think that its a
valid charge but if you look at the web site it will explain peak usage
in further detail and it does state that if you buy and sell land even
if you only owned the land for 5 minutes your peak usage is worked out
by the amount of land owned at any one time through your billing cycle
ufortunately there for this is a valid charge.

If you have any further problems or enquiries please contact us.

Enjoy your in world experience

Keith,

Linden Lab Support

Ticket Information:
Ticket #: 4051-4237443
Date Created: 8/23/2007 7:41 AM PDT

Meade Paravane

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Join date: 21 Nov 2006

Posts: 4,845

08-23-2007 12:13

When you bought the 512 for your friend, didn't it warn you that you'd be tiering up?

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Wulfric Chevalier

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Join date: 22 Dec 2006

Posts: 947

08-23-2007 13:47

From: Leinad Meriman

We have unfair taxation without representation in SL.

No, we don't have taxation. We have a charge for the use of some space on a server. And you agreed to pay that charge for that service when you agreed to the TOS.

Brenda Connolly

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Join date: 10 Jan 2007

Posts: 25,000

08-23-2007 18:42

I'll start rallying my group to meet at the Harbor to dump the tea.

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Osgeld Barmy

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Join date: 22 Mar 2005

Posts: 3,336

08-23-2007 19:35

its not a tax, you teired up, it doesnt matter if you owned it for 3 seconds or 3 weeks your teir charges cover that month

and to top it off its not even fine print, it states quite clearly

Kevin Susenko

Voice Mentor

Join date: 11 Jul 2006

Posts: 198

08-23-2007 23:37

Doesn't bother me. I live on Azure so it doesn't really apply there.

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Sindy Tsure

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Join date: 18 Sep 2006

Posts: 4,103

08-23-2007 23:53

/me, not seeing an option for 'read the large print' doesn't vote.

Like Meade asks, didn't it warn you that you'd have to tier up when you bought the land?

Land Tax billing
Leinad Meriman Registered User Join date: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 1	08-23-2007 12:12 I am very unhappy with LL and how the tier tax is billed. To help a friend I purchased a 512m2 parcel next to mine and 5 minutes later I sold the person my original parcel to expand her land. I owned 1024 m2 for 5 minutes and I was taxed $5.00 . I have tried to resolve this inequity with Linden Labs without success. I get automated no-reply responses that ignore the fundamental unfairness fo this taxation. So LL has a horrible tax system that is unfair and it has poor, impersonal customer service. So I bring this issue to the forum. We have unfair taxation without representation in SL. Dan Power aka Leinad Meriman Editor, DSSResources.com and DSS News Prof. of Information Systems *************** This is the most recent message I received. In all I have had 3 emails on this issue. Subject: Ticket #4051-4237443: Sent Final Solution (email response) From: "Linden Lab - Support" <no-reply@secondlife.com> Date: Thu, August 23, 2007 9:51 am To: [email]power@dssresources.com[/email] THIS IS AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE, PLEASE DO NOT DIRECTLY REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. We have solved your issue Solution: Hello, Leinad Meriman Thank you for contacting us, I see the reason you dont think that its a valid charge but if you look at the web site it will explain peak usage in further detail and it does state that if you buy and sell land even if you only owned the land for 5 minutes your peak usage is worked out by the amount of land owned at any one time through your billing cycle ufortunately there for this is a valid charge. If you have any further problems or enquiries please contact us. Enjoy your in world experience Keith, Linden Lab Support Ticket Information: Ticket #: 4051-4237443 Date Created: 8/23/2007 7:41 AM PDT
Meade Paravane Hedgehog Join date: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4,845	08-23-2007 12:13 When you bought the 512 for your friend, didn't it warn you that you'd be tiering up? _____________________ Tired of shouting clubs and lucky chairs? Vote for llParcelSay!!! - Go here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224 - If you see "if you were logged in.." on the left, click it and log in - Click the "Vote for it" link on the left
Wulfric Chevalier Give me a Fish!!!! Join date: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 947	08-23-2007 13:47 From: Leinad Meriman We have unfair taxation without representation in SL. No, we don't have taxation. We have a charge for the use of some space on a server. And you agreed to pay that charge for that service when you agreed to the TOS.
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	08-23-2007 18:42 I'll start rallying my group to meet at the Harbor to dump the tea. _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Osgeld Barmy Registered User Join date: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 3,336	08-23-2007 19:35 its not a tax, you teired up, it doesnt matter if you owned it for 3 seconds or 3 weeks your teir charges cover that month and to top it off its not even fine print, it states quite clearly
Kevin Susenko Voice Mentor Join date: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 198	08-23-2007 23:37 Doesn't bother me. I live on Azure so it doesn't really apply there. _____________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 (Overclocked - 2.8GHz) \| Mobo: EVGA nForce 680i SLI \| GPU: XFX nVidia GeForce 8800 GTX 768mb GDDR3 \| Memory: 4gb DDR2 PC5300 667MHz Dual Channel \| PSU: Antec Neo HE 550w \| Sound: SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtrememusic \| HDD: 950gb total SATA3 \| OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
Sindy Tsure Will script for shoes Join date: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 4,103	08-23-2007 23:53 /me, not seeing an option for 'read the large print' doesn't vote. Like Meade asks, didn't it warn you that you'd have to tier up when you bought the land?

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