Links to mature content on PG Sims?

According to the PG definition, Gor, sex and RPGs with explicit language are mature. Correct? If I understand that right, a forum that has a section for cybersex, one for gor and more fore other RPGs has to be ragarded as mature. Correct?

This imples that if you want to build an information centre on a PG Sim, you can not link to a mature forum and that a CG that should be strictly PG can not linkt to that forum either. Correct?

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Aleco

Hmm, I'd say the link is fine so long as people are aware of the content, and the link to it is not in itself mature in any way.

It's like with games saying "Online experience may vary"; you can buy a PG game but if you play it online you're open to sexual slurs, bad language, "body humping" etc., which are not themselves PG.

But to make the people aware of the content of the link, they would have to at least mark it as mature. So the link would be matre again...

Link to XYZ Forums (warning: may contain links to mature themes)

that is not my understanding of a pg sim at all. dont forget that its an adult grid. even the pg sims are on an adult grid. ive always been under the impression that a 'pg' sim was intended to be free of wanton sex/violence, but not particularly disneyfied either.

Read LLs definition of PG.

Got to https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417
search for "mature pg" and read the first article.

This is in my eyes the essential part.

PG Areas are designated to be free from sexually explicit language or behavior, swearing and other forms of aggressive language, violent behavior and/or imagery, including horror. Gambling for Linden Dollars is also prohibited.

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Aleco

So what does that have to do with a 3rd party website? That isn't under LL's jurisdiction.

Who said that it is? The question is, if it is o.K. to set a links to that site on a pg sim when it is known to contain mature content.

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Aleco

*Cough*

Exactly this is not allowed on PG...

is the link itself mature?

lets say i put a link up to "fu***** ****s.com" < that would be against the rules (without the censorship of course)

but lets say i put "whatever.com may contain some mature content", theres nothing mature about the ip being presented inside of SL, with the warning you, the adult, would have to make a decision to go seek that mature content

ya never know that "mature content" might even mean discussion on the new AARP insurance plans

According to Amber Linden setting a link to a page that contains mature material on a PG sim is not allowed.

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Aleco

well acc to the rules in print we all agreed to it isnt no matter what the linden of the week says ...

So what do the rules say regarding links to mature content on a pg sim?

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Aleco

as long as whats presented inside of secondlife isnt sexual, vulgar hatefull ect (you listed them) its ok

Can you please quote the part of the rules?

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Aleco

the problem is the 'tos' and the 'community standards' can contradict eachother, so it isnt always possible to simply quote a rule. for an example think back on the 'broadly offensive' dilemma.
what i posted above was based upon 2 years of observation, and i definitely lend more credibility to my own observation than i do to vague and contradictory ll policies.

Well, how can someone be on the safe side regarding ARs then?

That's why I tended to accept Amber Lindes view.

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Aleco

I'd just like to point out the idiocy of expecting links leading out of second life in PG areas being completely 100% PG.

Example:

The destination www.google.com is perfectly safe. What one does AFTER that may not be.

Example: typing in "porn" and clicking "I feel lucky."

Obviously, this is an extreme example, however we can take a more moderate approach. Any site with banner advertisements is capable (though unlikley, but it's a non-zero probability) of generating ads with mature/semi-mature links and/or content.

And then there's depth.

How deep do you want to trace ALL links on a web page and check for the presence of mature content before declaring the original link clean?

Ex.

Google -> search "cock" -> wikipedia (entry on rooster) -> diambiguation page -> colloquial word for male genitalia (with link to the page on it).

I'm pushing the example towards one I know will work, but I don't feel like finding a word that is clean and tracing the wikipedia slide to something that isn't.

I don't know how strict LL labs is, but any link that warns of mature conent by using the words I've stated TWICE in this thread should be PG-ok. The words "mature content" in and of themselves are PG, the page linked should be clean as well with only the links therin being links to mature content, yet be safe enough (e.g. "BDSM Forums: click here". You can get away with a little more on these pages, but should be intended for a general audience.

Best advice:
If you're not sure, make it take one more click.

you cant.
the rules are interpreted by whichever linden takes on the AR, and how its handled is left to their discretion.
one thing in your favour is that lindens generally dont like dealing with ARs anyway, so its unlikely that an AR against you would even be followed up.