Why is there no limit to alts?

It seems to me it would cut down on the amount of griefing that could be done by various destructive groups if LL would go back to limiting the number of alts anyone could ever have. I miss when you were only allowed 5 per credit card.

This ability for these individuals to be able to make an unlimited number of alts is destructive to anyone trying to succeed in a SL endeavour, especially if you live on the mainland.

The tools provided to combat these griefers are not good enough. LL has left us at the mercy of these people and does nothing to curb their ability to cause grief and harm.

Scripted devices to combat griefers are marginally effective but only if you own the entire sim. Griefers take advantage of trusting parcel owners in the mainland by making use of these unsecured parcels, hence putting other responsible landowners at the mercy of the griefers themselves.

LL has a responsibilty to fix this issue for mainland residents by either cutting off the supply of alt accounts to these griefers or creating better land management tools or rules for the mainland.

This has been requested numberous^2 times. LL has responded with "will not fix."

The last 3 words being key.

As soon as the payment info requirement was dropped, LL no longer had any means of determining who's who and as a result there is just no way to keep someone from signing up as many alts as they can/want.

One word they will never bother to limit alts ever again regardless of how -


BOTS.


Evidently LL loves the lil Community wreckers.

There is one outspoken person in this forum. That called have 5 alts per account was outdated. He/she wanted unlimited alts because HE/SHe wanted his role playing avies to all possible purposes. Now look at us........... ALT hell and no help in sight for grieftes that abuse this reasoning. I sure hope that selfish person is happy now. Infact I hope He is having more problems with Griefters then anyone else is in the game. Lets cut the problems as is. And start a new better system.

Whereas I had four perfectly free accounts before they opened the gates:
Credit Card
Paypal (using same credit card)
Paypal (using bank account behind credit card)
Cell Phone

I could have paid $10 ea. for up to 9 more accounts (12? Was it 1+4 or 4? I've forgotten, I always thought it was no more than 4 per payment meathod, not one and then four).

Honestly I don't remember exactly what the old rules were. Just that you had to pay for each alt and there was a limit.

They have given the griefers the biggest, unstoppable weapon they could have. The ability to make unlimited, anonymous accounts. It almost seems pointless to even AR them, when they can just come right back to do it again.

I also wonder, why is the Governance Team so secretive? lets have some more transparency with that stuff. It would help to know that someone is atleast trying to shut these griefers down. Or are they?

I believe that they have also made more furries, too.

The problem is not an issue of how many alts you can or can't have. The problem is that you can create ANY accounts at all, without providing any valid information about who you are. As long as that is true, it doesn't matter if the official limit is 1000, 20, 5 or only one account per person per lifetime. The griefers and scammers will still create as many accounts as they please, with bogus information. And they won't care about getting caught, because they can always come back with yet another alt created with bogus information. So limiting how many accounts a person has is impossible right now anyway, and will only harm those who have legitimate reasons for having multiple accounts, and who play by the rules. Limiting the number of accounts you can have isn't the answer. Limiting the ability to do whatever you please with no consequences is the problem that needs to be addressed.

If LL insisted on valid, verifiable ID to create an account, it wouldn't matter if a person had two accounts or a thousand. If they abused the accounts, they would lose ALL their accounts. But LL very stupidly decided to eliminate even the most rudimentary validation of who has what accounts.

I would heartily support a change that would require all active accounts to be linked to a verified real person. It's only necessary that Linden lab knows who is linked to what accounts. Then, if they ban someone, it affects all that person's accounts. If YOU ban a griefer from your parcel, it would affect all of that griefer's accounts. Problem solved. But I don't think their current "Age verification" system is an answer to that. It's too easily spoofed, and too difficult for some legitimate users to use to verify their ID. But verifying who someone is CAN be done. Millions of businesses manage to do it when they set up credit cards, bank loans, or store finance agreements to purchase a sofa or a car... They don't just hand you the keys to the car and smile as you drive away with it, confident that even though they don't even know your name, you'll somehow pay for the car you just drove off with!

But it's not likely that LL will do anything at all to limit or even register accounts.

The bottom line is that Linden Lab values quantity over quality. They value high numbers of sign-ups that they can brag about to investors, and don't care if the majority of those accounts are bots, campers and griefers. Or even if the majority of them are dead accounts, from people who try SL once and never come back.

Nice but in other words it still spells we are in deepest **** then ever before.
Love how people run around issues to still make it turn out in their favor.