Sex and Gambling and PayPal
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TrackDay Kidd
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07-30-2007 20:11
Ok....seeing as the gambling clampdown is happening here and now....(and for the record I have NO problem at all with legislated gaming of anykind)...my thoughts have turned to sex (about every 30 seconds the shrinks say..he he)
How will Linden Labs come down on the vibrant sex industry in SL ?
PayPal is used by a lot of us to purchase our Lindens....yet PayPal clearly has a no adult policy...
"You may not use PayPal in the purchase or sale of, or receipt of donations for, any obscene or sexually oriented goods or services.....Representations or descriptions of intercourse, masturbation, excretory functions, or lewd exhibition of the genitals."
So it's a very thin line between staying on the right side of PayPal...and not...I can see this becoming the next target or the puritans of LL and the Federal law makers and Pay Pal.
At the moment we are not actually using PayPal to purchase the sex services....but PayPal are only 1 click away from a very dark and murky world...a world we are tolerant of....but PayPal wont be !!
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Savannah Christensen
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07-30-2007 20:41
From: someone PayPal is used by a lot of us to purchase our Lindens.... Key line is right here... you're buying LINDENS via paypal. It's like saying that if you order a broom (off of ebay for example) via paypal and stick it up your #@$% you've done something to violate their policy. P.S. You really could have replied to one of many many posts about "oh noes, they banned gambling... now they're going to cut me off from my virtual sexx0ring too"
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Brenda Connolly
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07-30-2007 20:50
Not all of us pay for sex in SL either.
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Savannah Christensen
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07-30-2007 20:50
From: Savannah Christensen P.S. You really could have replied to one of many many posts about "oh noes, they banned gambling... now they're going to cut me off from my virtual sexx0ring too" Nevermind, you did... and yet you STILL needed to start a seperate thread on the topic.
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TrackDay Kidd
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07-30-2007 20:56
Indeed I did....are you crying over that ?
I thought in a free world we can debate topics....but no..it seems the forum police are on form today.
Where in my post did I say I had a strong view one way or the other...I want to see what others think...I have no interest in LL and SL...on a free account now....so I wont win or lose...just wondered whats next to be clamped down on.
Anyway....my post is here...and guess what...oh no...it's staying here !!
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Savannah Christensen
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07-30-2007 21:05
Awww did I get your panties in a wad? From: someone I have no interest in LL and SL...on a free account now....so I wont win or lose...just wondered whats next to be clamped down on. I just think it's pretty sad how bored you must be... you dont care and you've made that clear... but you want to debate for the hell of it, on a subject that you were already debating in another thread. Yes, you got a reply out of me, your cry for attention worked my friend... you win, go you. Still... you dont get a cookie out of it... nor am I 'crying' over the horse being beaten to death, Im bored too... so atleast I can entertain myself with other people making fools of themselves. NM, Im bored with it already.
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Ciaran Laval
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07-30-2007 21:22
Conspiracy theory version:
The founder of Ebay is allegedly a big investor in second life. Ebay own Paypal. Therefore this won't be a problem.
Sensible version:
Proving that a certain resident used Paypal to fund their bank balance to then go and have sex would be too problematic. I don't see Paypal funding stopping anytime soon.
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TrackDay Kidd
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07-31-2007 05:39
I like that theory....was also well rumoured that Google would like to plunge cash into SL...but Google and Ebay don't exactly see eye to eye...so that makes even more sense to your arguement.
In response to Savannah Christensen:
There is no response...obviously not capable of an adult discussion.
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Brenda Connolly
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07-31-2007 05:46
IF SL in and of itself was considered "obscene", the PayPal theory might fly, but as stated you are buying lindens through PayPal (those that do so that way). Once the Lindens are in your account, what you do with them is not of concern to PayPal I'd wager.
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TrackDay Kidd
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07-31-2007 05:54
Yep...agree with you....it's like everything nowdays...we are testing out old laws and rules on new ideas...
It's a shame that when you try and debate something the usual idiots just rant and rave and yell ' deal with it' etc.
It was honest comments and opinions I wanted to hear (and yours is)...for no reason other then it's good to talk.
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Caete Chevalier
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07-31-2007 09:48
From: Brenda Connolly Not all of us pay for sex in SL either. Winner!
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07-31-2007 10:05
From: Brenda Connolly Not all of us pay for sex in SL either. Ive just been keeping a tab running hun. ---------- 
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Kilar Koba
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Just Wait
08-01-2007 10:48
All the Sex and Escort businesses are indeed on thin ice. It is only a matter of time before some underage kid brings to light all the seedy content available to them for free on SL. The moral majority will be on this issue soon. Lets hope Bill O'Reily doesn't get wind of the goings on in SL.
The Ageplay situation is one that is particularly troublesome area in light of the hyper sensitivity today regarding anything sexual regarding children.
It is only a matter of time.
Lets see if all the Escorts and such who bashed us for protesting against the removal of gambling will now want us to all help them with their issue when it becomes their turn.
Good Luck to all you in the sex industry in SL. Make your money quick now while you can. Ofcourse many ppl no longer have the money to pay you for your action or dances or massages.
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Graciella Princess
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08-01-2007 15:52
From: Ciaran Laval Conspiracy theory version:
The founder of Ebay is allegedly a big investor in second life. Ebay own Paypal. Therefore this won't be a problem.
Sensible version:
Proving that a certain resident used Paypal to fund their bank balance to then go and have sex would be too problematic. I don't see Paypal funding stopping anytime soon. Same applies for the gambling also. Especially since at least 98% of the people used money they got in game for it, if not more. This logic works both ways.
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TrackDay Kidd
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08-01-2007 20:58
From: Kilar Koba All the Sex and Escort businesses are indeed on thin ice. It is only a matter of time before some underage kid brings to light all the seedy content available to them for free on SL. The moral majority will be on this issue soon. Lets hope Bill O'Reily doesn't get wind of the goings on in SL.
The Ageplay situation is one that is particularly troublesome area in light of the hyper sensitivity today regarding anything sexual regarding children.
It is only a matter of time.
Lets see if all the Escorts and such who bashed us for protesting against the removal of gambling will now want us to all help them with their issue when it becomes their turn.
Good Luck to all you in the sex industry in SL. Make your money quick now while you can. Ofcourse many ppl no longer have the money to pay you for your action or dances or massages. Perfectly put...and I watch with interest...from my free account...as my gaming machines are now all illegal.....oh well.
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Brenda Connolly
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08-02-2007 06:09
From: Kilar Koba All the Sex and Escort businesses are indeed on thin ice. It is only a matter of time before some underage kid brings to light all the seedy content available to them for free on SL. The moral majority will be on this issue soon. Lets hope Bill O'Reily doesn't get wind of the goings on in SL.
The Ageplay situation is one that is particularly troublesome area in light of the hyper sensitivity today regarding anything sexual regarding children.
It is only a matter of time.
Lets see if all the Escorts and such who bashed us for protesting against the removal of gambling will now want us to all help them with their issue when it becomes their turn.
Good Luck to all you in the sex industry in SL. Make your money quick now while you can. Ofcourse many ppl no longer have the money to pay you for your action or dances or massages. It will be impossible to totally ban Escorts save for banning ALL Sexual Activity. You can do way with advertising, shut down adult clubs to an extent, but you can't police the behavior of two people to any extent unless you constantly monitor them. Two Avis can meet, make arrangements via IM, and go to a private residence and get happy.
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Chilly Charlton
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Don't be fooled SEX IS NEXT
08-13-2007 12:05
Don't be fooled SEX IS NEXT
Sex is next, we can only hope LL won't f#$@ those who invested in sex the way they have every other area. PayPal + Sex = No No and we NOW know who pulls LL's strings, now don't we?
When, not if, they ban advertising sex just take that as the phase out call, that is all you are going to get.
I should have screamed more when they GOMed the GOM. I will at least try and be vocal for sex when the time comes (and it is). Eventually it will be hair. Bring on the flames.
At least they won't need two grids but I doubt we will even be able to play tidly winks with our kids.
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Babyblues Boffin
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08-13-2007 17:01
From: Chilly Charlton Don't be fooled SEX IS NEXT
Sex is next, we can only hope LL won't f#$@ those who invested in sex the way they have every other area. PayPal + Sex = No No and we NOW know who pulls LL's strings, now don't we?
When, not if, they ban advertising sex just take that as the phase out call, that is all you are going to get.
I should have screamed more when they GOMed the GOM. I will at least try and be vocal for sex when the time comes (and it is). Eventually it will be hair. Bring on the flames.
At least they won't need two grids but I doubt we will even be able to play tidly winks with our kids. OOOOO...I'll bet you are right Chilly Charlton..there was an 'sexual harrassment' charge in the police blotter a couple of days ago...maybe it's already started  )
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Tod69 Talamasca
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08-13-2007 19:12
From: TrackDay Kidd It's a shame that when you try and debate something the usual idiots just rant and rave and yell ' deal with it' etc.
WELCOME TO THE SL FORUMS!!!! 
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TrackDay Kidd
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08-13-2007 23:25
From: Tod69 Talamasca WELCOME TO THE SL FORUMS!!!!  Welcome to the human race....lol
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Tegg Bode
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08-14-2007 00:38
From: Kilar Koba Good Luck to all you in the sex industry in SL. Make your money quick now while you can. Ofcourse many ppl no longer have the money to pay you for your action or dances or massages.
Actually what I've heard from friends in the industry and noticed is the opposite, people actually have money now to tip dancers. I used to think I was breaking some rule when I was the only person to tip a dancer anything in an hour. Funniest/saddest thing was when I saw a dancer at one club say "Well I'm going to go make some money, going camping"
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Tod69 Talamasca
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08-14-2007 01:55
HEH! Only dancer I ever watched, and tipped, was a friend of mine. 
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