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Scott Tureaud

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Join date: 7 Jun 2007

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10-12-2007 22:26

how long has it been since you've been able to cross a sim without getting catapulted halfway accross the one you're moving into. then sometimes warping back to where you crossed or just staying in the middle of the sim.

Ann Launay

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10-12-2007 22:40

About an hour.

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Giz Ihnen

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10-12-2007 22:49

about an hour here too tops...

or I try to walk someplace and I can't stop walking and start sinking into the ground while continuing to walk. I can turn around, but then end up just walking backwards. When I finally stop walking.. it warps me back to the place I first started walking??? Afterwards, 8 times out of 10, the program freezes up (sometime my whole computer) and I need to re-log/reboot. *sigh* only to have it happen again...

Makes it very difficult to get anything accomplished in-world... o.O

Ann Launay

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10-12-2007 23:50

Erm, no, I was saying that I'd crossed a sim border without any issues about an hour before I posted.

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I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Scott Tureaud

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Posts: 224

10-13-2007 00:37

yes the dangers of sim crossing. It's been about a day for me since I've gotten a nice and smooth sim crossing.

Conifer Dada

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Join date: 6 Oct 2006

Posts: 3,716

10-13-2007 01:49

I quite often get smooth sim crossing when walking down to the creek near where I live for a swim. Also when swimming (SLSwim 2.1 animation), it's not unusual to swim across from one sim to another without trouble. I also like to hike down the future highway that passes my place. I have to cross 4 sims to get to Lake Big-big, at the end of the highway, and if I stop for a second or two before crossing each border I don't usually crash.

Sim crossing in my car, though, usually results in getting stuck.

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Sling Trebuchet

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Join date: 20 Jan 2007

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10-13-2007 03:48

It's a lottery.

I regularly cross the borders of empty sims in Corsica. (Is an empty Class 5 a Class 5.5?)
The same crossing is sometimes trouble-free, sometimes extreme yo-yo / rubber-band / loss_of_control / balding. Problems occur even when a check shows my 2M DSL line is supporting a steady 1.7/1.8.
There's no sim-lag (unless it's lag caused by the other sims sharing the server). It's all network lag.

It seems to be LL bandwidth issues slowing down the sim handover process to 'unacceptable' levels.
Stopping a moment inside the 10-metre boundary band of the sim I'm leaving does help, but not always.

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Jessica Elytis

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Join date: 7 Oct 2005

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10-13-2007 04:58

I used to be an avid driver of SL roadways. USED to be.

Version 1.13 was about the end of any stable handoffs. Before that, having issues as more a rarity, though did happen on a regular basis.

Various things contribute, from how many prims in attachments, to what's in the two sims, but the biggest factor is your speed. The faster you hit the border, the higher the chance for the SL Triangle Effect.

Some vehicles compensate for this by a script stopping them at the border to help with sim-to-sim handoff. Also, staying in each sim for a minimum of 20 seconds helps as well, by letting the sim "get used" to you. I read the 20 second aspect in some SL documentation long ago, but darned if I can remember where. (Just so you don't think I pulled that number out of my linden.)

~Jessy

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Tomas Gandini

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Join date: 27 Jun 2006

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10-13-2007 08:05

From: Giz Ihnen

about an hour here too tops...

or I try to walk someplace and I can't stop walking and start sinking into the ground while continuing to walk. I can turn around, but then end up just walking backwards. When I finally stop walking.. it warps me back to the place I first started walking??? Afterwards, 8 times out of 10, the program freezes up (sometime my whole computer) and I need to re-log/reboot. *sigh* only to have it happen again...

Makes it very difficult to get anything accomplished in-world... o.O

That has gotten to be my normal SL experience. Look forward to it everytime I log on... NOT!

Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

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Conifer Dada

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Join date: 6 Oct 2006

Posts: 3,716

10-13-2007 11:08

When I was testing my monorail I found it derailed on sim borders because the rail prim across the border always behaved as phantom.

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Walker Moore

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Join date: 14 May 2006

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10-13-2007 11:15

From: Scott Tureaud

how long has it been since you've been able to cross a sim without getting catapulted halfway accross the one you're moving into. then sometimes warping back to where you crossed or just staying in the middle of the sim.

On Corsica, pretty much every day for the past few weeks. I built a jetski and am scripting an engine from scratch (ie. not using example scripts) for educational reasons .. so I've been crossing sims on a vehicle quite frequently.

What kind of results do you get from speedtest.net?

Low speeds or high latency may be a factor.

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Jessica Elytis

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10-13-2007 12:26

From: Conifer Dada

When I was testing my monorail I found it derailed on sim borders because the rail prim across the border always behaved as phantom.

You can "fix" this by extending bits of the rail from both sides into the other sims by several meters. I believe you need to go at least 5 more meters to offset the problem.

For an in-world example go to any LL roadway and Highlight Transparent (Ctrl+Alt+T) [or is it Ctrl+Shift+T? I always confuse that]. Note the big red flat "plates" that LL placed over the sim borders. There are two. One comming from each sim (or more if connecting at a 4-way corner).

Note: This is not a perfect "fix" by far, but one that LL has, themselves, implemented, and does appear to take off the worst of the effects of transversing sim borders.

~Jessy

_____________________

When your friend does somethign stupid:

From: Aldo Stern

Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.

3Ring Binder

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Join date: 8 Mar 2007

Posts: 15,028

10-13-2007 12:40

i never have problems crossing sims. when you freeze for a second, quit pushing buttons and wait for it to catch up, and all will be fine.

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Maelstrom Janus

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Join date: 4 Jul 2007

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10-13-2007 15:15

From: Giz Ihnen

about an hour here too tops...

or I try to walk someplace and I can't stop walking and start sinking into the ground while continuing to walk. I can turn around, but then end up just walking backwards. When I finally stop walking.. it warps me back to the place I first started walking??? Afterwards, 8 times out of 10, the program freezes up (sometime my whole computer) and I need to re-log/reboot. *sigh* only to have it happen again...

Makes it very difficult to get anything accomplished in-world... o.O

Thats because the outer crust of SL World is made from Marshmallow...no one will listen..until one nightglobal sl warming turns everyone in slworld into a snack in a cup of hot chocolate....

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Scott Tureaud market base? Join date: 7 Jun 2007 Posts: 224	10-12-2007 22:26 how long has it been since you've been able to cross a sim without getting catapulted halfway accross the one you're moving into. then sometimes warping back to where you crossed or just staying in the middle of the sim.
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	10-12-2007 22:40 About an hour. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Giz Ihnen Registered User Join date: 1 Mar 2007 Posts: 69	10-12-2007 22:49 about an hour here too tops... or I try to walk someplace and I can't stop walking and start sinking into the ground while continuing to walk. I can turn around, but then end up just walking backwards. When I finally stop walking.. it warps me back to the place I first started walking??? Afterwards, 8 times out of 10, the program freezes up (sometime my whole computer) and I need to re-log/reboot. sigh only to have it happen again... Makes it very difficult to get anything accomplished in-world... o.O
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	10-12-2007 23:50 Erm, no, I was saying that I'd crossed a sim border without any issues about an hour before I posted. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Scott Tureaud market base? Join date: 7 Jun 2007 Posts: 224	10-13-2007 00:37 yes the dangers of sim crossing. It's been about a day for me since I've gotten a nice and smooth sim crossing.
Conifer Dada Hiya m'dooks! Join date: 6 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,716	10-13-2007 01:49 I quite often get smooth sim crossing when walking down to the creek near where I live for a swim. Also when swimming (SLSwim 2.1 animation), it's not unusual to swim across from one sim to another without trouble. I also like to hike down the future highway that passes my place. I have to cross 4 sims to get to Lake Big-big, at the end of the highway, and if I stop for a second or two before crossing each border I don't usually crash. Sim crossing in my car, though, usually results in getting stuck. _____________________
Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548	10-13-2007 03:48 It's a lottery. I regularly cross the borders of empty sims in Corsica. (Is an empty Class 5 a Class 5.5?) The same crossing is sometimes trouble-free, sometimes extreme yo-yo / rubber-band / loss_of_control / balding. Problems occur even when a check shows my 2M DSL line is supporting a steady 1.7/1.8. There's no sim-lag (unless it's lag caused by the other sims sharing the server). It's all network lag. It seems to be LL bandwidth issues slowing down the sim handover process to 'unacceptable' levels. Stopping a moment inside the 10-metre boundary band of the sim I'm leaving does help, but not always. _____________________ Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used. http://www.ace-exchange.com/home/story/BDVR/589
Jessica Elytis Goddess Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,783	10-13-2007 04:58 I used to be an avid driver of SL roadways. USED to be. Version 1.13 was about the end of any stable handoffs. Before that, having issues as more a rarity, though did happen on a regular basis. Various things contribute, from how many prims in attachments, to what's in the two sims, but the biggest factor is your speed. The faster you hit the border, the higher the chance for the SL Triangle Effect. Some vehicles compensate for this by a script stopping them at the border to help with sim-to-sim handoff. Also, staying in each sim for a minimum of 20 seconds helps as well, by letting the sim "get used" to you. I read the 20 second aspect in some SL documentation long ago, but darned if I can remember where. (Just so you don't think I pulled that number out of my linden.) ~Jessy _____________________ When your friend does somethign stupid: From: Aldo Stern Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.
Tomas Gandini Just Me! Join date: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 384	10-13-2007 08:05 From: Giz Ihnen about an hour here too tops... or I try to walk someplace and I can't stop walking and start sinking into the ground while continuing to walk. I can turn around, but then end up just walking backwards. When I finally stop walking.. it warps me back to the place I first started walking??? Afterwards, 8 times out of 10, the program freezes up (sometime my whole computer) and I need to re-log/reboot. sigh only to have it happen again... Makes it very difficult to get anything accomplished in-world... o.O That has gotten to be my normal SL experience. Look forward to it everytime I log on... NOT! Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!! _____________________ Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups
Conifer Dada Hiya m'dooks! Join date: 6 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,716	10-13-2007 11:08 When I was testing my monorail I found it derailed on sim borders because the rail prim across the border always behaved as phantom. _____________________
Walker Moore Fоrum Unregular Join date: 14 May 2006 Posts: 1,458	10-13-2007 11:15 From: Scott Tureaud how long has it been since you've been able to cross a sim without getting catapulted halfway accross the one you're moving into. then sometimes warping back to where you crossed or just staying in the middle of the sim. On Corsica, pretty much every day for the past few weeks. I built a jetski and am scripting an engine from scratch (ie. not using example scripts) for educational reasons .. so I've been crossing sims on a vehicle quite frequently. What kind of results do you get from speedtest.net? Low speeds or high latency may be a factor. _____________________ It's only a forum, no one dies.
Jessica Elytis Goddess Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,783	10-13-2007 12:26 From: Conifer Dada When I was testing my monorail I found it derailed on sim borders because the rail prim across the border always behaved as phantom. You can "fix" this by extending bits of the rail from both sides into the other sims by several meters. I believe you need to go at least 5 more meters to offset the problem. For an in-world example go to any LL roadway and Highlight Transparent (Ctrl+Alt+T) [or is it Ctrl+Shift+T? I always confuse that]. Note the big red flat "plates" that LL placed over the sim borders. There are two. One comming from each sim (or more if connecting at a 4-way corner). Note: This is not a perfect "fix" by far, but one that LL has, themselves, implemented, and does appear to take off the worst of the effects of transversing sim borders. ~Jessy _____________________ When your friend does somethign stupid: From: Aldo Stern Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.
3Ring Binder always smile Join date: 8 Mar 2007 Posts: 15,028	10-13-2007 12:40 i never have problems crossing sims. when you freeze for a second, quit pushing buttons and wait for it to catch up, and all will be fine. _____________________ it was fun while it lasted. http://2lf.informe.com/
Maelstrom Janus Ban Ban Lines !!! Join date: 4 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,220	10-13-2007 15:15 From: Giz Ihnen about an hour here too tops... or I try to walk someplace and I can't stop walking and start sinking into the ground while continuing to walk. I can turn around, but then end up just walking backwards. When I finally stop walking.. it warps me back to the place I first started walking??? Afterwards, 8 times out of 10, the program freezes up (sometime my whole computer) and I need to re-log/reboot. sigh only to have it happen again... Makes it very difficult to get anything accomplished in-world... o.O Thats because the outer crust of SL World is made from Marshmallow...no one will listen..until one nightglobal sl warming turns everyone in slworld into a snack in a cup of hot chocolate.... _____________________ The Janus Chrononauts - 'Investigate and Explore.'