PLEASE do not buy my stolen items for sale full perm at SLX

Hi. The last time I posted here about aledged sale of stolen items at SLX forums I was banned from SL for a day.

I hope that doesnt happen again.

SL talks a lot about transparency, but apparently NOT when it involves issues that affect their profit and business association with SLX and its owner.

I was accused of harrasment by SL and banned, but my previous post had three authors besdies me, and was reviewed for legal issues, for libel issues, for compliance with SL TOS and compliance with SL Forums TOS.

All relavent information regarding this was posted as footnotes to that post.

SL has refused to answer my advisors two comunications asking for qualification of their actions and specific examples of the violations they CLAIM accured.

I learned today that a large collections of fashions i own are being sold full perms on SLX, (SL Exchange aka SLX is an apparent corporate business associate of SL which handles outside sale of intelectiual property belonging to artists active in SL and also they handle sales of Lindens and cash conversion to other currencies).

I, and other co-owners of this intellectual property, are appealing directly to the SL community to NOT buy our stolen property for sale at SLX.

The items are fashions from the :TOM BOY: line created by my freind Starlisa Fizzle.

We EACH paid $40 real US dollars for limited rights tyo carry this line.
It was sold ON SLX by Lisa with the clearly stated condition that it NEVER be resold full perms.

Only 25 sets were sold.

Lisa had to cut back because of rl issues. She wantdd other nice peoples to be able to sel her clothes She is an awesome designer and a wonderful freind!

I am asking the SL community to honor our inteletual property and NOT buy stolen property from SLX.

Please remember, if you buy and sell these you are equaly guilty of stealing. if you are not sure and dont buy DIRECTLY from the creator, ALWAYS contact the original creator and ASK if the property is stolen.

I pay as much as $15 real us dolars for a single dress to sell! If you are getting it ful perms for 25 lindens, you can pretty much asume it is stolen.

I will CONTINUE to sell my :Tom Boy: Fashions at my Street Girl and Poddy's Palace Fashions Boutiques.

For a FAIR price that reflects the quality of the designs, AND the amount I paid for them.

If you want to go buy them full perms cheap on SLX then go ahead, but stay out of my stores. I don't want your business.

Thank you.

Love Poddy

Learn about DMCA. Will get you a lot further these types of posts.

I don't think he is the creator so he can't DMCA. The creator sold them full perm with a designation that they not be resold full perm (as I understand it).

I think that there is a risk that any creator takes when they sell their items full perm, whether it be in world or on SLeX or any other venue. Sooner or later someone is going to turn around and sell the stuff full perm themselves. I mean if someone would go to the trouble to copybot, why wouldn't they break a trust and resell items they came by legitimally against the creator's wishes?

if you got banned for this once before, then why are you doing it again???

if you really do have legal advisors, they should be shot for not telling you not to post crap like this on a public forum.

Poddy you need the content creator to take this up, they set the terms and conditions, only they can enforce it.

Poddy, you have been advised many times on other forums - if you made your own things and stopped 'investing' in Buisiness in a Boxes, you wouldn't keep getting stung like this.

You know the risks of buying things that are full perms, you have seen it before. And yet you still keep spending large sums of moneys on these things?

The creator sold them full perms. They knew the risk and if they want to take action against these sellers, that is for them to do. You can't. You didn't create the items and have no written contract or anything to say you are the only seller of them. I am very sorry, but full-perms items inevitably end up being sold cheap. It is not right, but it is the way of SL.

Btw - I just did a search on Tom Boy on SLX, couldn't find any items at all. When I searched for 'tomboy' there are quite a lot of items by various creators.

It sounds like your complaint is with one of the 24 other sellers who paid for the "limited rights" and then did not abide by the terms and released the items as full perms. As others have already pointed out, since you are not the creator, you don't have many options. LL will see this as a resident to resident dispute and will not get involved.

Her own description of the collection on SLX differs from that. "You will be getting boxed ready to go full permission boxes and items inside, you may change the permissions to how ever you see fit to sell." There isn't much you can do as a reseller, if people sold their own work under a variety of license terms.

qft

Poddy Id suggest you get a third-party blog

and then you can just advertise it in the third party websites forum.

that way you wouldn't get in trouble with the official SL forums, you would never have to name names here, you wouldn't have to do anything questionable where LL would feel the need to reprimand you.

Heck maybe even get the blog under an unverified Alts name and you'd be even more insulated.

But you keep this stuff up you may get banned, and you don't want that.

Remember LL has decided that a Forums ban CAN equal a In World ban as well.

This one is painful.


From the looks of it, you're safe this time, at least from the heavy hand of Linden Lab. Fear the Residents.


There is no business association between Linden Lab and SL Exchange and/or its owner. None. Period.


You named and shamed, which is within your right to do on many forums, but not on this one. Sourcing your information, no matter how accurate, does not excuse it. This was the wrong space for this kind of rant, and it still is.


Welcome to the club. They don't really have any obligation to answer you, your advisors, or God.


Again, SL Exchange is NOT in any way, socially, sexually, corporately or otherwise associated with Linden Lab. Yes, that's Linden Lab, not SL. SLX operates their own website, and their own currency exchange, apart from Linden Lab. There is no relationship.


So which is it? Lisa created the items, or she paid $40USD for a limited license to resell them? You seem to suggest she did both.

"Our" intellectual property? Do some research, and learn a bit about IP. It ain't yours.


Why all this ranting when all you're doing is buying something wholesale and selling it on? What stake have you got in it? It's not your property. I seriously don't understand what this rant is all about.

Thought this sounded familiar. /327/a1/276175/1.html

A couple of definitions to ponder.

Disclaimer: (because we know Poddy likes disclaimers) Not suggesting Poddy is either.

Next time wait until you find it for 10L


See you after your three day hiatus.

oh, and IBTL

Thanks, forgot that.

she really needs to get a blog

that way she wont get banned

and the lulz keep coming.

Wait, so the OP bought "exclusive rights" to something, then the creator put it up for sale full perms with the rather naive notion that people would actually respect her wishes and not *resell* it full perm. Now it's showing up all over.

Urg. And stuff.

Even better. The OP...and 24 other (highly scrupulous individuals I'm sure)...bought rights to a "limited" edition with full perms. But clearly SLX is solely to blame for the (stolen!) item being strewn about willie-nillie.

I would totally read it.