Club owners & employees benefiting from sploders etc

What are your thoughts on the following:

Went to a club, it was a contest night, there were about 25 people there, the owner & hostess both entered the contest along with many others and the hostess won.

Went to a club, about 12 people there, the sploder paid out 11 times while I was there. The owner or hostess won the top prize 9 out of the 11 times.

Is it fair for the club owner & employees to enter their own contests? Can sploders be rigged? Is it Friday yet?

1) No, but life and SL are neither one fair quite often.

2) sploders run off of scripts, so of course they can be rigged.

3) somewhere, yes - in other places, it is Saturday.




If I cared at all about contests or sploders, I would never go back to a place that allowed the staff to enter those things.

Well, I see nothing wrong with staff entering sploders - but if they are scripted to have owners win that sucks. As long as they are not set up to cheat they are random and it doesn't matter who's in. Where I work the owners will ever so often enter with a large sum. If the sploders go to a certain amount they may double. Really don't see the problem with that.

Other contests where voting is a part of it is another matter, guests only in my opinion.

And there hasn't been a hint of a Friday thread.

Clubs that operated contests in that manner would not get a return from me. That's low rent.

Though the "Bye Bye" thread does manage to come close.

Started strong, but didn't finish well, in spite of you heroic efforts.

I've gone on rants on this topic before based on personal experience and observation. Totally wrong for club owners/managers/employees even enter the voting type contests. They want to attract new people? Completely wrong way to go about it, imo.

Couldn't agree more.

I don't see anything wrong with employees entering either but I agree about rigged sploders so unless they're made by tmy entertainment or one of the one or two other reputable creators of sploders I don't even bother.

Hosts and owners generally pay larger amounts into the sploders to encourage more people to play and have bigger payouts for the crowd. If you want to avoid patronage to a club that is trying to give Lindens away then that's your perogative. It would be consistent with the distorted sense of self entitlement that one witnesses among some people who goto to SL clubs.

Dagmar, if that was aimed at me please re-read my post. I'm all for it but just stick to people running the name brand sploders if I'm going just for the sploder. If I'm going for the event or for other reasons it doesn't really matter what they do.

I go to a club that has contests on occassion and both owners generally enter the contest to get the ball rolling........but they exclude themselves from any winnings and repeatedly tell the people not to waste their votes by voting for them durring the voting process.

I don't care about staff getting in on a sploder but I resent clubs that allow staff to enter the "best in" contests. What is the point, when dancer X or escort Y is going to win half the time?

/me shrugs this kind of stuff comes up a lot and ill say what i always do when it does

I run a club

My staff are volunteer, that is they are regulars who work for tips only

Without them there would be no club and no best in anything contests

If they arent working they are a regular at the club and should be allowed the same chances in the contests

Yes they win and sometimes they win often.

But it isnt cos they are staff, it is becuase they are regulars who dress well to the theme

I used to host quite a bit. The owners usually left it up to us hosts whether or not we wanted to be able to compete in "best of" contests. I always kept myself out of the running, as a matter of personal preference, though I did wear costumes.

Clubs like that only get that one visit from me.

I do wanna add though, while I don't like staff being able to enter, my workplace has one day of the week where they do allow staff to do so (I still prefer not to). However, I can barely remember one time where a staff member has won over a regular guest on that occasion. After all, we do love having guests. The club is kinda like a "mom and pop"-place, founded by someone who love that club more than profit itself. I think that makes quite a difference in how clubs are run, from what I have seen.

Is it any more or less wrong than the little cliques that grid-hop from club to club to ensure that one of their members wins the voting-based contests?

It bothers me too. I quit working at this one club where the owner's wife IMd everyone and asked that they vote for the owner because, "he hardly ever wins". Well, duh. The guy pays the board. He shouldn't be entering in the first place.

I generally won't enter contests if I'm staff. On the few occasions I do enter, it's to get people to join the contest. I also ask the host to remove my name once people are entered. If that isn't possible, I ask people not to vote for me.

I also vote for the one with the best costume who IS NOT staff.

When I ran my own club, there was one occasion I entered my own contest and won. The winnings were given to the dancer, host, and DJ as tips.

In my mind, it is "just as wrong ethically".

I run a kick boxing / mixed martial arts league in SL, and I give away pretty sizable cash prizes for winning tournaments and holding title belts. I forbid myself and my directors from competing because I think it looks bad. I pay my staff for working in my company, and we provide a service to our members which I don't think we should interfere with by entering into contests ourselves.

It works very well for us.

Was this a timed sploder? If so, next time, contact me. I will help you even up the odds.

(I got banned from one club for winning too often. The owners didn't like losing.)
Another club, the patrons learned not to play when I was there.

I think it's wrong, plus the clubs that say they except bribes for votes. The bribe thing is tacky and I finally told the club I worked for that it wasn't classy, and quit mainly because of that bribe thing.

I'm 80-90% anti contest now. Don't like the cheaters who aren't even dressed for the contest show up to vote for so and so so they can split the pot!

As far as sploders, I feed like once a month because I know I'm sending some lindens to a club I like and/or employee who is working hard. But mostly, I prefer to pay via a donation box and hope the employees get a portion of that.

I was wondering if someone could make a raffle ticket type machine that club owners would have no interference whatsoever in with regards to the winning number? In other words, no rigging.

This would be for mature SLifers. I doubt teenagers with no bank accounts and clichey friends would come to that sim. But hey, I like people with maturity and I know others who do as well.

It has always been our policy at my club, that all employees are not allowed to enter any of the contests. They are told this before being hired. It is more important for the guests to win if i want return visitors. Allowing the staff to enter contests will just cause you to lose a large percentage of return visitors (specially if they always win). Leaves the door open for accusations and doubt when you allow staff to enter

That's how i see it