Downloading Textures from SL to work on

I have some textures that have full perms that I would like to work on outside SL. I know it can be done but can someone explain how?????

Thanx

If they are in SL itself, I think you would need to download the texture to your hard drive then work on it with whatever program and upload it again for 10L$.
I think I have that right, I have never downloaded textures from SL so I am not sure - I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong.

I hope it helps

Open the texture where you are viewing it. Then click in "File' from the top menu and you should be able to click "save texture as..."



edit: Costs nothing to save, but will cost L$10 to upload it.

And full perms doesn't mean you can make a few changes and call it your own. Just means you have full permissions to sell it, use it, give it away

Absolutely.

If you modify it to upload and use on a product you sell, is that ok? (For example, adding gradients or shading to a fabric or wood sample and then using that to texture a chair.)

One would need to ask the creator--don't go on the SL permissions system.

Well, it would be a damned strange texture store who sold full-perm textures that weren't intended to be used on items for sale, and I've never encountered an EULA that permitted resale of the original but barred resale of derivative works. (*That* would be a very funny position to see argued in court!)

LOL. Thanks.

Let me guess...skin textures?

It`s free to DL to your HDD.

It wouldn't be a legal problem. The copyright owner is perfectly free to set such a condition.

It would make sense if the texture had something distinctive and recognizable about it.

Well, one is free to make any claim one wants, but that doesn't mean it would be upheld. See, for example, http://laws.lp.findlaw.com/7th/962522.html for a case upholding the re-use of RL copyrighted images in derivative works. But given the inconsistencies of current DMCA-related rulings, anything is possible. Indeed, it's far from settled law that *any* re-use of images within SecondLife is prohibited (short of outright texture theft, presumably). For this reason, some of us think that granting explicit limited permissions under a Creative Commons license is more likely to afford the desired protection than can straight copyright--but lawyers who know how to spell CC are few and far between.

Yeah lol. just seen i was wrong. I'll change that now. no need for more confuddling. I got a bit carried away lol.

Speaking as a professional SL texture artist, and as someone who sells textures via what is most likely the largest texture store in SL, (Textures-R-Us), there is certainly NO restriction on using a texture that you buy to make prim items or clothing items, *unless* the maker of that texture clearly stated so. The SL permissions system works badly enough that it isn't practical to sell textures as anything other than "full perms", because when you restrict them it makes them harder to use, or even impossible to use, on anything that can be resold. So we rely on a terms of use agreement instead of the rather useless SL Permissions system.

The vast majority of the textures that are sold at Textures-R-Us are intended for and used by builders, to create prim objects or clothing items, that they are allowed to resell or just use for themselves.

Most texture stores DO restrict the resale or transfer of the raw textures. After all, who would want to spend hours and hours crafting a detailed set of textures, and then see some thief taking their work and selling it repeatedly as if it was their own? That would be like an author of a book having someone who obtained one copy of that book start reprinting their book and selling the copies, with no royalties back to the author. Or like a movie or audio performance being sold as pirated copies. Giving away copies of purchased textures dilutes the market and reduces or even destroys the value of the product.

Under our terms of use, it's perfectly fine for anyone who buys our textures to download them to their computer, alter them as needed (for example, adding a window and curtains to a wall), and then uploading them back to SL for their own use, or for use on non-texture products for resale.

If someone wanted to do that and then offer the altered texture for sale... Best course there is to ask the original artist for permission. In many cases, if your efforts resulted in something noticably different than the original texture, the artist will have no problems with that, and will be thankful that you had the courtesy to ask for permission. For example, I have been asked before if someone could use my windows in their wall textures, and I have usually said that was fine, though I prefer to see the results of their efforts, before granting final permission.

On the other hand, if all you did was to take a set of my window textures and change the color of the tiny sash lock or window handles, that's certainly not enough of a change to make that "your work" instead of mine. Making a very minor change does not make something a "derrivitive work".

Oh, gosh yes, quite right, and I hope I didn't leave the impression that resale of altered textures as textures would fare well if challenged--it almost certainly wouldn't!

Even in the very well known texture stores, ones that themselves are very vocal against theft I have come across packs and textures in the packs that I could upload myself just from using Google images!!!

So what happens in this scenario?

Texture Artist downloads images from the net, puts them in a program to make them seamless and so they tile nicely, uploads them and stipulates they are not to be sold as they are.

An everyday Joe Bloggs downloads the SAME images from the net, spends some time in their program making them tile and seamless, uploads them for their own use...

Over time decides to maybe give some away to friends, maybe even sell a few..

What happens then? Will Joe Bloggs be accused of stealing..? reputation ruined maybe? for doing the same thing as the accuser..

I have thought about this a lot recently, not that I have any intention to sell textures, though I have been making some of my own from scratch, complete scratch and thats a nice feeling because I know that no one else has them! Should that be a Yet at the end of that statement?! LOL

I didn't get that impression, but I suppose selling textures never crossed my mind. At this point, I am thrilled that I have figured out how to add an alpha layer or a little gradient shading to use on a prefab or a couch cushion. I have several purchased textures in SL that I would love to customize this way to use in my building efforts.

Thanks Ceera for your great post, btw.

Actually, if you read a lot of the agreements of profiles of texture store owners, it is their hand drawn textures they are most concerned about protecting. Certainly I feel if you photosource something from the net, and someone else uses the same photo, neither of you have no room to complain about the other using it, whether it be a building texture or a piece of clothing you both happened to find and like.