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Naz Fride
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12-01-2009 10:01
By gadfrey, there have been a spate of "I'm taking a class in Applied Methodology Procedures, and I have a quick survey I would like everybody who reads this forum to take. It will take about 40 minutes to answer these questions here, but they will need to be verified by going to this website http://www.madeupurl.edu and answering them again, which will take about another hour due to our slow servers. I'm brand new here, haven't even been inworld yet, so I need for you all to do my research for me, since my paper is due this Friday," posts the last few days.

If you are even THINKING of starting a new one of these threads:

1. Don't.
2. If you do, prepare to be ridiculed.
3. People in these parts don't like surveys for the most part, especially ones foisted upon us by noobs who clearly know nothing about the SL experience.
4. Even if you get a decent sample size (which you won't), it won't be a random sample of SL users, so your results will be statistically useless. SL Forum posters are NOT a representatative sample of SL users.
5. If you're serious about this, go inworld for a while--at least several days--and then completely rewrite your survey questions. Then set up an inworld kiosk where residents can RANDOMLY sign up for the survey. Configure the kiosk to pay them a small stipend for their time. If you don't know how to do that, figure it out. You'll learn a lot about how SL works. Then get a classified ad inworld to advertise the survey and the location of the kiosk. All this will cost money. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
6. Don't.
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Meade Paravane
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12-01-2009 10:15
/me looks for somewhere to fill in her answers.

I don't understand this survey at all!
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12-01-2009 10:20
From: Naz Fride
If you are even THINKING of starting a new one of these threads:

1. Don't.
2. If you do, prepare to be ridiculed.
3. People in these parts don't like surveys for the most part, especially ones foisted upon us by noobs who clearly know nothing about the SL experience.
4. Even if you get a decent sample size (which you won't), it won't be a random sample of SL users, so your results will be statistically useless. SL Forum posters are NOT a represtantative sample of SL users.
5. If you're serious about this, go inworld for a while--at least several days--and then completely rewrite your survey questions. Then set up an inworld kiosk where residents can RANDOMLY sign up for the survey. Configure the kiosk to pay them a small stipend for their time. If you don't know how to do that, figure it out. You'll learn a lot about how SL works. Then get a classified ad inworld to advertise the survey and the location of the kiosk. All this will cost money. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
6. Don't.
I say "bring em on" -- I'm a bit bored and bitchy.
:D
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Key MacMoragh
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12-01-2009 10:37
Good points, Naz.

I tried this once before, too:

/327/33/310544/1.html
Benski Trenkins
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Join date: 23 Feb 2008
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12-01-2009 11:50
for those that cannot resist to post a survey:

No, Yes, No, No, No Way, Yes, No, Maybe, Depends, No, No.

Happy now? :D
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Brieanne Bomazi
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12-01-2009 11:52
You forgot the most important thing....

Wheres the pie?

~brie
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Argent Stonecutter
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12-01-2009 11:54
My answers:

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. No.
5. Yes.
6. Yes.
7. Pie.
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Benski Trenkins
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12-01-2009 15:32
From: Brieanne Bomazi
You forgot the most important thing....

Wheres the pie?

~brie


I KNEW I forgot something important :D
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Peggy Paperdoll
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12-01-2009 16:21
Putting up a koisk and paying the surveyees will skew your survey and be meaningless. A better way would be to randomly find someone and ask your questions.

And be ingnored for the most part. :)
Void Singer
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12-01-2009 18:15
can someone sticky one of these rants already? (personally I like Mari's)

so howzabout it milly?
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Jig Chippewa
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12-01-2009 22:12
I love telephone surveys cos I never get them on my phone.
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12-01-2009 23:34
Would a survey about stipend receipts be ok?
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Naz Fride
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12-02-2009 05:51
From: Peggy Paperdoll
Putting up a koisk and paying the surveyees will skew your survey and be meaningless. A better way would be to randomly find someone and ask your questions.

And be ingnored for the most part. :)


How do you randomly find someone though? Just click on a spot on the map and TP there?
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Anthony Luponox
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12-24-2009 06:46
Since I'm a researcher who just posted a survey, I thought I should respond to this thread, however old, to show that I read it. :) I had actually read it back when I was lurking the forum, preparing for my research.

Sure, as Naz said, the forum isn't a random sample of SL users. And, as others mentioned, neither are kiosks or walking up to other residents and asking them questions. It's not that the results of my survey will be useless - it's just that I'll have to seriously consider how generalizable the results are. The old approach to dial phone numbers using a certain repeated pattern has become difficult in RL (a la Jig's comment), and it's impossible in SL unless Linden Research somehow contacts residents for you. So, people like me who are interested in studying life in virtual worlds usually have to settle for convenience samples, for the time being.
Conifer Dada
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12-24-2009 07:12
But would the Forum be the same without people posting unwanted surveys?

Yes [....]
No [....]
It depends what you mean by survey [....]
Tarina Sewell
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12-24-2009 08:18
From: Brieanne Bomazi
You forgot the most important thing....

Wheres the pie?

~brie



They always forget the pie!
Tegg Bode
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Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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12-24-2009 15:05
If you are even THINKING of starting a new one of these threads:

1. Just do it, you know you want to.
2. Prepare to be ridiculed by people who think they represent everyone on the forum.
3. SOME people in these parts don't like surveys for the most part, many also find it impossible to ignore a thread they aren't interested in, the are compelled to post negative stuff to vent their desrires of Global Forum Conquest.
4. SL Forum posters are NOT a representatative sample of SL users, many of the most outspoken haven't ventured out of the same sim in years, that's assuming they've actually logged inworld more than once a month.
5. If you're serious about this, go inworld for a while, there are many more interesting people there who love to chat about SL, you can spot the uninteresting ones, they are the single green dot by themselves in a whole sim or surrounded by their own dancing traffic bots.
6. Go for it, some of us like a good laugh.
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Bec Sadofsky
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12-24-2009 15:34
From: Anthony Luponox
Since I'm a researcher who just posted a survey, I thought I should respond to this thread, however old, to show that I read it. :) I had actually read it back when I was lurking the forum, preparing for my research.

Sure, as Naz said, the forum isn't a random sample of SL users. And, as others mentioned, neither are kiosks or walking up to other residents and asking them questions. It's not that the results of my survey will be useless - it's just that I'll have to seriously consider how generalizable the results are. The old approach to dial phone numbers using a certain repeated pattern has become difficult in RL (a la Jig's comment), and it's impossible in SL unless Linden Research somehow contacts residents for you. So, people like me who are interested in studying life in virtual worlds usually have to settle for convenience samples, for the time being.


Dont get me wrong but well if you go in world you experience more. And then draw your own conclusions. On what it is your are doing, or need to do for your survey. I see by your date you have been here a bit so well..... go out and see people and interact and well be yourself. And see?

I was at a place that I really loved it was my home state went to a dance there as a matter of fact and yup they started quizzing me and I said is this a survey they said well yes this is a school area. I did not like it one bit! and left. so there you go lol

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12-24-2009 17:19
From: Naz Fride
If you are even THINKING of starting a new one of these threads:


...then yer gonna end up having to read a paragraph out of a book, 'cuz I'm bound to post it.
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Innula Zenovka
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12-25-2009 04:26
From: Anthony Luponox
So, people like me who are interested in studying life in virtual worlds usually have to settle for convenience samples, for the time being.
Sometimes, I have observed, researchers seek respondents for their questionnaires by approaching owners of in-world groups and asking them to advertise the surveys to their group members. It helps, of course, if it's something directly relevant -- I've participated in a few surveys about RLV and BDSM that I wouldn't have otherwise bothered with because the owner of one of the groups to which I belong has, as it were, vouched for the researchers.

You'd need to choose the groups carefully, I think; you need one where the owner is an active presence in the group so the members feel they know him or her. But this approach suggests, at least to me, that the researchers have bothered to do some groundwork and managed to convince the group owners that their research is worthwhile, so, since they've clearly gone to a bit of effort and put some thought into the project, I'm that much more likely to cooperate.
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12-25-2009 12:57
From: Naz Fride
By gadfrey, there have been a spate of "I'm taking a class in Applied Methodology Procedures, and I have a quick survey I would like everybody who reads this forum to take. It will take about 40 minutes to answer these questions here, but they will need to be verified by going to this website http://www.madeupurl.edu and answering them again, which will take about another hour due to our slow servers. I'm brand new here, haven't even been inworld yet, so I need for you all to do my research for me, since my paper is due this Friday," posts the last few days.

If you are even THINKING of starting a new one of these threads:

1. Don't.
2. If you do, prepare to be ridiculed.
3. People in these parts don't like surveys for the most part, especially ones foisted upon us by noobs who clearly know nothing about the SL experience.
4. Even if you get a decent sample size (which you won't), it won't be a random sample of SL users, so your results will be statistically useless. SL Forum posters are NOT a representatative sample of SL users.
5. If you're serious about this, go inworld for a while--at least several days--and then completely rewrite your survey questions. Then set up an inworld kiosk where residents can RANDOMLY sign up for the survey. Configure the kiosk to pay them a small stipend for their time. If you don't know how to do that, figure it out. You'll learn a lot about how SL works. Then get a classified ad inworld to advertise the survey and the location of the kiosk. All this will cost money. There's no such thing as a free lunch.
6. Don't.



Thanks for this post!! P.S. Many SL folks (like me) also despise going to RL websites. If it can't be done in-world, then stuff it. I don't want to go see your music website, your avatar website, your facebook website....nada!!! Zilch!! I could care less even if the website is only about your SL self.