Question re SL capabilities for corp meetings

In a vague effort to encourage the company I work for to consider having an island in SL for netmeetings instead of - well, net meetings, renting venues for all-staff meets, etc - I wonder if:

...it is possible for a host to display on a media screen live desktop activity a la gotoassist in a boardroom setting? They would be able to show examples of applications, launch video, etc during the course of a virtual meeting.

Can this be done? Is this done?

none , vade retro corporations we want nothing with you!!!

I know I've seen something like this demo'ed before but don't remember the name of it.

Anything that captures your screen and presents it as a video feel should work. If your company is anything like mine, the hardest part of all this will be talking the IS goons into letting you get that feed outside the firewall (not needed if everybody in the meeting is inside the firewall) and letting you have SL access at work..

edit: promising random google hit: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=48324

Keep the corps out of SL !

Next thing you know they will be banning everything because it's not up to coroporate standard.

"sorry, you can't wear that penis Mr Wakazashi of Toyota corp finds it offensive, and we wouldn't want to upset our new corporate overlords would we now"

Yeah! We don't want their money!!

Their big, big bags of money.

Uh..

Wait. What?

Did you see today’s Blog: http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/10/21/immersive-workspaces/
christ, calm down people! I would assume you can wear your penises and manage to stay away from the private corporate sims. If not, well we have a word for that “Griefer” and a solution “Ban and Eject”

Looks like River Runs Red beat you to it.

http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/10/21/immersive-workspaces/

That's exactly my point. There used to be a time when the lindens would never allow corps into SL. There used to be a time when residents mattered. But now all that matters is how much money can you stuff into their pockets.

My company, which is one of the big ones with a huge presence in SL is routinely having events in SL.
And though I'm not sure how it's done, we have a capability of showing PowerPoint presentations in world.

But consider this, we are only using it for events which are strictly public.

All talk of company confidential matters as well as anything relating to client businesses is prohibited. The reason for this being that all communication passes thru and is logged on the LL servers, an environment over which we have no control.

So, by all means, use it for public events which you would have put on a public web page anyway, but keep internal company stuff away from here.

This post coincides with the LL blog entry on immersive virtual work environements, which has a link to a video.

To individual companies, virtual meetings would make a useful and possibly a fun add-on no normal RL activities. They could replace some RL meetings and be useful for short-notice urgent discussions and demonstrations. I can't see many instances where companies would transfer more than a small part of their activity from real to virtual world, though.

I mean, it's a bit like how I live in SL, I make stuff here and sell some of it, I go out partying, exploring and I talk my head off to whoever might be listening. I also sell some of my things on OnRez, but I couldn't transfer all my activity to Onrez, it's just an additional tool.

I have no problem with corporations being in SL as long as it doesn't start to dictate the way we individual residents lead our second lives. Anyway, it looks like the semi-separate firewalled sims or mini-grids like what IBM have might be the way this corporate involvement goes.

Anyway, if LL don't get in on this, someone else will, especially with all the OpenSim based developments going on.

I hate to break it to you, Justa, but your perception of history is a little off. Coporations have pretty much always been present in SL, just as individuals have. LL has never barred ANYONE from entering SL simply because they want to extend their RL business into it, nor should they.

The only thing that even comes remotely close to what you seem to be talking about was there used to be a ban on in-world advertising of products and services that don't directly have anything to do with SL. They (quite rightly) didn't want SL just becoming a giant 3D billboard for RL stuff. But there's certainly nothing wrong with businesses utilizing SL in interesting and meaningful ways, and LL has always encouraged that.



What I can't understand is why you assume a corporate presence has to be bad. Right now there are hundreds, if not thousands, of corporations, government agencies, etc., using SL for all kinds of purposes. Has any of it in any way hampered what YOU do in SL? Of course not. You're not even aware of 99.9% of it.

Look, if you don't like what ANYONE, be it a corporation, an individual, or any other entity, is doing in SL, just don't go to their land. It's that simple.


I also don't get why or how you think corporations somehow automatically put more money in LL's pockets than anyone else. You could do with a reality check, and a dose of simple logic on that. Fact: if a corporation sets up an island in SL, they pay the exact same amount for it as anyone else. LL doesn't say "Oh, you've got 'inc' after your name. That'll be an extra million dollars." That's not how it works.

So where's all this extra cash you assume they must be throwing LL's way just because in your imagination, that's what corporations magically somehow do? Trust me; it doesn't exist.


Oh, and in case you were wondering, the big scary 'corporation' that was mentioned in the blog this morning, the one providing the Immersive Workspace service, if it weren't for them, it's possible there never would have been any such thing as private islands in SL. Their founder did come up with the idea, after all, and bought the first one ever. If you own an island or if you enjoy visiting any, you've got Fizik Baskerville to thank in no small part for it. But wait, you can't do that because corporations are bad, right?

Could be worse...


"Mr. Wakazashi of Toyota Corp is a great admirer of your penis and wants to be your friend, you are ordered to HappyToyotaSim to be Mr Wakazashi's date after tonights board meeting"

"Used to" As in, the ban is no more?

Passes through - oh yes. Can be logged - very definitely.

I'd love to see a definite statement on whether it is or isn't logged though.

Thanks for the input - the real people posting that is. I dont know who let the minors on the board?

Fact is, SL relies on corporate accounts. It's easy enough to restrict access at certain times to group members or avs with a specific surname, and I would imagine that's true of most corporations holding inworld staff meetings.

I guess it all depends on how much the IT dept is willing to coordinate with Linden to allow a stream of a live video feed in. My guess is depending on the format it may be as feasible as streaming radio.

Adding it up: an island, monthly maintenance (perhaps a deal for annual or semi-annual), custom surname, multiplied by the many corporate islands which exist... it doesn't hurt SL any and that means SL can continue and we as residents can continue.

I better read that article...

Okay, this is good for companies who just need virtual space. It isnt on the SL grid. Immersive Spaces would not apply to those who pursue private islands and customize the environment for visitors (The Weather Channel, NASA and Splenda are good examples for consumer resources IMHO) in addition to the staff meetings.

afaik, they've never specified for how long they retain the logs, a matter of days iirc... Basically long enough to corroborate ARs maybe? I do seem to remember reading it was longer for either chat or IMs, but can't remember which...

What I found from a quick search was this: From

Kind of irrelevant if about confidential information. In the U.S. just the possibility of logging would make it illegal to convey some client info.

Watched one organization that I am part of do a live conference feed into SL. It took more people to keep it organized at the mikes than to do a live conference feed into RL, mostly because every speaker needed a new avatar (in as much as there were male and female speakers). I suggested that they learn how to pull an entire folder onto a generic av, complete with a titler, but they couldn't understand the concept of the alt changing clothes and sex all at once ('course, they would be naked for maybe a second). What was amusing was how much they put into the conference without really knowing much about how SL works. They just sort of came in, used it and left, even though they have two islands. As an example, I had to point out that no one was going to use their island get-together spot when they had no music feed, small things like that. Hope others do it better...