Security orb as a perfect easy substitute for age verification?

Well I tried to verify and couldn't (like many) and this suddenly occurred to me.

I have a security system that I can turn on anytime and it bans EVERYBODY except me and my partner. If it bans everybody then by definition it also bans non age-verified avs. So it gives me and everybody else absolutely as much (or as little) legal cover as verification does. So I can still have sex when and how I want to, just by switching it on and off.

I don't need to go through all that business after all.

Have I missed something?

Do people usually come and watch when you have sex with your partner?

Nope. Never (except by accident maybe). But thats the point isnt it - we have to protect innocent underage eyes from exposure to such grisly sights?

Shame about 'Disable Camera Restraints' though

unless you got enemies no one is going to go directly watch it, there are better movies with said content than watching it in 3rd view in second life

As has been stated many many many times ... this age verification thing is needed by Linden to keep Linden safe. End of story. No other action will cover them, including resident made and resident bought systems.

I can't verify either. This bears out what I have always said about Aristotle, they are hopeless where I work and hopeless here, I wouldn't personally trust them to verify I live on this planet never mind anywhere else.

My passport got me to France and back a week or two ago, I can get a line of credit with it and both banks and government agencies accept it as proof that I am who I say I am, but I still can't go somewhere that someone might GASP be indulging some form of sexual activity in! Apparently. So far, it's made sweet diddly dodo-squat difference to my SL.

Using an orb protects you against a random stranger, but does nothing if it turns out your Partner has been lying to you about their own age, or if you've been lying to them.

Not that the new system actually proves anything, other than that if they really ARE under age and if they lied to the age verification service by providing false information or someone else's information, then the under-age Player has committed a criminal act to come to SL. Therefore if anyone DOES complain that "Suzy13 Strumpettt" (not a real avatar) is actually a teenaged girl in RL, one can place the blame on her for having committed a criminal act to be here.

Here's my understanding:

If you fall into the 'landowner' category - You need to decide whether there is anything going on on your land that someone could go after *you* for having that stuff visible by minors. If there is, Linden is reccomending that you restrict your parcel(s) to Mature only; if you don't - and someone complains, they may do it for you.

If you fall into the 'resident' category - You need to decide whether you wish to continue visiting places that have flagged themselves as Mature only. If you do, you're going to need to Age-Verify. If you don't, there is no reason to Age-Verify.

If you fall into both categories, both apply.

Easy as pie

What do you mean, not a real avatar? I know Suzy13 and she's definitely one of the triple-T Strumpettts. Don't know how old she is though.

I doubt a security orb will keep you from getting successfully AR'ed if someone feels like it.

On the other hand, you can age restrict your parcel and explicitly add yourself and your partner to the allowed list and you'll both still get in without being age-verified.

Hold on, is it likely that having virtual sex in your own bedroom (or elsewhere), on your own or rented property, will have to be flagged as mature content?

Will you have to flag your own sexgen bed as mature content?

Wearing Xcite 'equipment' - hey, I'M mature content! ?

Having sex on SL doesn't compare to having sex in your private bedroom in RL. It would compare if you had a live cam feed up that was open to the public.

You're not having sex, you're creating and streaming adult content.

*suggests renaming your SexGen to "Physical Fitness Trainer (Seats 2-4) 4.0" *

Why bother with a security orb when you can just use banlines? Same thing.

except that LL'd already have that same protection by having users provide their name age and address, as is done in many other online venues, because even filling that much out is fraud if it's not true.

I begin to suspect that this is much less about watching LL's collective asses, and more about providing a feel good atmosphere in which LL can upsell their platform to corporate interests, & partner up with / profit by a relationship with an outside databse manager.

It isn't a criminal act to lie to Linden Lab if they ask you a yes/no question on a web page. It IS a criminal act to present someone else's ID or forged ID as proof of identity.

Although I truly hate the psycho security orbs which are the bane to grid explorers everywhere, I can see the usefulness of one that enforces a verified-only rule on a limited section of a parcel. In particular, it might be useful to make a certain height range as verified-only but not flag the parcel itself as being verified-only...

As the claim goes, no data is stored anywhere so there would be no way to show that you presented someone else's or forged ID. A teen can claim they submitted their own and it verified them.

Besides, the only thing you're agreeing to is that you're providing "true and correct information", not that the information represents you.

And IDV won't do anything for you in a private setting anyway, because allow lists and group-only access override it. It's really only set up to work as a filter for "public" parcels.

I'd be very wary of trying to hide in the implied vagueness of that last part. It reminds me of when the compulsory crash helmet law came in in the UK and some wag flaunted it, carrying his helmet strapped around his knee. I don't think 'they didn't say on my head' got him very far with the magistrate.