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Lincoln Lupino
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08-27-2007 14:03
Is there a need/market for agents in SL that place sellers of high end property with buyers? It seems like the vast majority of land sales are driven solely by price. Totally bizarre to me that someone will save .2 L per sq/m and take boring rock land rather than a beautiful piece.

Searching for estate quality land and builds is almost impossible under the current search engine. The best I have been able to accomplish is to run a search and then sort alphabetically and hope the sellers have put "water" or "beach" as their first word. That will get you the baron's usually but what about the average guy selling his beach house. Perhaps he calls it 'Jack's Beach House" and sells it for a reasonable price....... no one will ever find it. I knoiw that when I am looking at land in venereal, I rarely go past page 2 of the search by price per sqm.

Now if there were an agent who would spend the time teleporting about to look at land and then presenting it to a buyer....... that might be golden.
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08-27-2007 14:26
From: Lincoln Lupino
Is there a need/market for agents in SL that place sellers of high end property with buyers? It seems like the vast majority of land sales are driven solely by price. Totally bizarre to me that someone will save .2 L per sq/m and take boring rock land rather than a beautiful piece.

Searching for estate quality land and builds is almost impossible under the current search engine. The best I have been able to accomplish is to run a search and then sort alphabetically and hope the sellers have put "water" or "beach" as their first word. That will get you the baron's usually but what about the average guy selling his beach house. Perhaps he calls it 'Jack's Beach House" and sells it for a reasonable price....... no one will ever find it. I knoiw that when I am looking at land in venereal, I rarely go past page 2 of the search by price per sqm.

Now if there were an agent who would spend the time teleporting about to look at land and then presenting it to a buyer....... that might be golden.


Contact real estate agents and see if they would be willing to sell you unique lots at a discount if you take it off their hands right away. This also helps you get some eyes out there looking for a space. You then can turn the land over to the new owner.

If you are to just show the folks a choice of land, your likely to get stuck wasting a lot of time. If they see the land and want to buy, what would stop them from buying it and banning you from the lot? lol. I know its silly but its bound to happen.
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08-27-2007 15:03
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Raymond Figtree
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08-27-2007 15:30
Speaking mainland for a moment, It's very true that the best plots are never found through the search pages since buyers never get to the best ones if they sort by price. I have two great plots for sale that are double protected beachfront and water and the only way to get the word out is with a post to the classifieds here.

This would be a great service to provide, but it would take so much time for so little payout, I don't think it's viable. Unless the agent just likes being online 24/7.
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Ciaran Laval
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08-27-2007 15:51
Gotta agree with Raymond, it's a service that seems to be missing but quite probably because it's quite possible to operate independently. However I'd certainly consider using an estate agent at times.
Raymond Figtree
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08-27-2007 17:07
The best solution short-term is to contact a mainland expert with a good rep like Sarah Nerd, Thai Racer or Skye Whitcroft. They will know what's available, or can keep an eye out for you.
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08-27-2007 17:43
From: Lincoln Lupino
Is there a need/market for agents in SL that place sellers of high end property with buyers? It seems like the vast majority of land sales are driven solely by price. Totally bizarre to me that someone will save .2 L per sq/m and take boring rock land rather than a beautiful piece.

Searching for estate quality land and builds is almost impossible under the current search engine. The best I have been able to accomplish is to run a search and then sort alphabetically and hope the sellers have put "water" or "beach" as their first word. That will get you the baron's usually but what about the average guy selling his beach house. Perhaps he calls it 'Jack's Beach House" and sells it for a reasonable price....... no one will ever find it. I knoiw that when I am looking at land in venereal, I rarely go past page 2 of the search by price per sqm.

Now if there were an agent who would spend the time teleporting about to look at land and then presenting it to a buyer....... that might be golden.


I searched through many of pages before I bought my current land. If you looking for beach land (depends on how much you wanting to pay), I know Caesar Holdings has a bunch of beach/ocean land. There are a bunch of it out there. If you need some names, contact me in the game. even after you teleport, you can look at the map to see where the water and sand is and fly around those regions looking at land for sale.
Lincoln Lupino
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08-27-2007 19:37
I actually have a great 8192 lot surrounding a cove. I put up a very detailed build of a beach estate and guest house. I have marked it down numerous times and it has been 2 months. That got me started on the idea of a realtor.

I see the problem though with actually getting paid. It would really only work as a sellers agent and you would have to do a lot of trusting.....either take a fee upfront (and the seller hopes the realtor refunds if there is no sale) or the realtor hopes the seller pays her after the sale.

Hmmmmmmm. You could create a group and transfer the land to the group which would include the owner and the realtor and set the proceeds split accordingly. That might actually work......
Raymond Figtree
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08-27-2007 20:34
From: Lincoln Lupino
I actually have a great 8192 lot surrounding a cove. I put up a very detailed build of a beach estate and guest house. I have marked it down numerous times and it has been 2 months.
As a land broker, you know that the value of waterfront has gone down dramatically since Nautilus and Corsica were brought to SL with all their affordable water areas. You also know that the size plot is much less likely to sell because it's a big tier investment for someone and most people are buying in the 512-2048 range. Add to that the fact that no one sees the land in search and yeah, you got a plot that needs a little help or luck to get sold.
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Richard Palace
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08-27-2007 22:48
The Land Sales Search is a free listing for all lands that are for sale. By default, it ranks accordingly to the lowest L$/sqm. You can sort by Name, L$Price, Area or L$/sqm.

However, do remember we still have another search, Places, which will cost L$30 weekly to put them into the Places Search.

Otherwise, you can also put up a Classifieds Search, which cost a min of L$50 weekly.

You can enter any keywords in both Places and Classifieds Search.
Valentino Tendaze
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08-27-2007 23:38
And stick it on the Land Sales forum here, if you haven't already done so.

Be sure to include a SLURL and a picture (if at all possible). Oh - and put the obvious (like 'waterfront') in the thread Title.
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Gwendolyn Fonck
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08-28-2007 00:29
From: Lincoln Lupino
Is there a need/market for agents in SL that place sellers of high end property with buyers? It seems like the vast majority of land sales are driven solely by price. Totally bizarre to me that someone will save .2 L per sq/m and take boring rock land rather than a beautiful piece.

Searching for estate quality land and builds is almost impossible under the current search engine. The best I have been able to accomplish is to run a search and then sort alphabetically and hope the sellers have put "water" or "beach" as their first word. That will get you the baron's usually but what about the average guy selling his beach house. Perhaps he calls it 'Jack's Beach House" and sells it for a reasonable price....... no one will ever find it. I knoiw that when I am looking at land in venereal, I rarely go past page 2 of the search by price per sqm.

Now if there were an agent who would spend the time teleporting about to look at land and then presenting it to a buyer....... that might be golden.


OK, unfortunately the agent really has to represent the sellers for this to work economically. Buyers just aren't going to pay for this service on top of the price to buy land. It's quite time intensive to TP around looking at land and then show it to buyers. As the land market is very dynamic, what's available at what price changes daily.

Also, if "Jack's Beach House" is selling for a "reasonable price", someone will find it eventually. It just won't be the average buyer. You are right that the search engine is lacking. A better idea is a search engine that presents more information but that is difficult to put together. If you could search for example just waterfront that would make it a lot better.
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Gwendolyn Fonck
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08-28-2007 00:49
From: Lincoln Lupino
I see the problem though with actually getting paid. It would really only work as a sellers agent and you would have to do a lot of trusting.....either take a fee upfront (and the seller hopes the realtor refunds if there is no sale) or the realtor hopes the seller pays her after the sale.


At Fonck Realty Group we've never had a problem with getting paid from buyers. I think an upfront fee filters out the bad apples in that regard. Sellers are generally good too because screwing someone out of a commission is if anything not good long-term business. It's not an either/or situation. You should charge both an upfront fee and commission usually.
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Skye Whitcroft
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08-28-2007 06:19
Gwendolyn Fonck is, by far, the best estate agent I've found in SL. She gets paid by sellers, but she's reputable and spends mind-numbing amounts of time with buyers. Just like any other business, reputation is the best indicator the lay person can hope for.

From: Lincoln Lupino
Is there a need/market for agents in SL that place sellers of high end property with buyers? It seems like the vast majority of land sales are driven solely by price. Totally bizarre to me that someone will save .2 L per sq/m and take boring rock land rather than a beautiful piece.

Searching for estate quality land and builds is almost impossible under the current search engine. The best I have been able to accomplish is to run a search and then sort alphabetically and hope the sellers have put "water" or "beach" as their first word. That will get you the baron's usually but what about the average guy selling his beach house. Perhaps he calls it 'Jack's Beach House" and sells it for a reasonable price....... no one will ever find it. I knoiw that when I am looking at land in venereal, I rarely go past page 2 of the search by price per sqm.

Now if there were an agent who would spend the time teleporting about to look at land and then presenting it to a buyer....... that might be golden.
cHex Losangeles
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08-28-2007 07:16
Christian Colville used to have a great search tool at http://www.sllandlist.com/. When it was working, one could search land listings for any keyword. Unfortunately, whatever measures LL took that were ineffective in countering landbots shut him down.
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08-28-2007 07:31
i've been looking for good waterfront property for 2 weeks. everything is chopped up, or too small. ... or too big.

i finally decided to just start buying out the ad farm behid my land and stay where i am. an expensive venture.

8192 is WAAAY too big, but 1/2 of that might not be. jsut a thot.
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Ciaran Laval
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08-28-2007 09:40
From: Richard Palace


Otherwise, you can also put up a Classifieds Search, which cost a min of L$50 weekly.

You can enter any keywords in both Places and Classifieds Search.


The problem there being there is no land sales section in the classifieds. Probably because there's already a land sales search but it leads to land and propery rental classified section being misused.
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08-28-2007 09:54
From: Ciaran Laval
Gotta agree with Raymond, it's a service that seems to be missing but quite probably because it's quite possible to operate independently. However I'd certainly consider using an estate agent at times.


I wasn't disagreeing with the idea...

I was pointing out the difficulty in just showing people the "traditional" method, which is showing people the lots. It would have to be executed in a way that is prepaid or you would have to trust that the buyer would pay your commissions. The best way to go about it is to build relationships with real estate folks so you have more eyes out for you, perhaps be an agent between the buyer and seller-the real estate broker.
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Ciaran Laval
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08-28-2007 10:46
From: Xplorer Cannoli


I was pointing out the difficulty in just showing people the "traditional" method, which is showing people the lots. It would have to be executed in a way that is prepaid or you would have to trust that the buyer would pay your commissions. The best way to go about it is to build relationships with real estate folks so you have more eyes out for you, perhaps be an agent between the buyer and seller-the real estate broker.


Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I disagreed with the execution of the concept. SL isn't really setup for this concept to be viable. I mean someone would need to pay the estate agent, who'd then pass the money onto me minus their commission and they'd need to be able to do all sorts such as adding and removing people from groups.

However if it were setup that way, the people who are here more often could have a very nice business model.

Maybe an estate agent advertising theme similar to rental central would be a start.
Gwendolyn Fonck
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08-28-2007 12:51
From: Ciaran Laval
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I disagreed with the execution of the concept. SL isn't really setup for this concept to be viable. I mean someone would need to pay the estate agent, who'd then pass the money onto me minus their commission and they'd need to be able to do all sorts such as adding and removing people from groups.


OK. I've been running an "estate agent advertising" theme since February. Do you need help getting your land rented?
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