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ConductorX Nieuport
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11-30-2007 06:51
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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11-30-2007 06:54
From: ConductorX Nieuport If was to buy an Island, would I be allowed to sell or rent parcels of land? (Make a subdivision and sell lots).
If you buy it from LL, sure. If not, it will depend on the island's covenants. ALWAYS read covenants before buying land. From: ConductorX Nieuport My Landmark list has the same locations listed numerous times. I tried to delete the excess landmarks to no avail.
Most sellers include their landmark in the items they're selling (so you can find them again). When you delete them, they're going to your trash. That's probably what you're seeing. From: ConductorX Nieuport SL crashes about 20 to 30 min after starting. When I am able to quit normally and restart I find myself in one the free markets I visited a few days before. Then I have to go back to the sand box where I was working. I respect the sandbox rules about cleaning up, but sometimes I crash and then return. My objects are gone when I return. Later I'll get messages that my objects are being returned to inventory.
Not sure what your question is here, but you'll find them in your Lost and Found folder.
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Dekka Raymaker
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11-30-2007 06:54
Yes to 1 and 4, however selling land on an island is a bit of a scam, imo one should only rent on an island.
2. don't know
3. you can set your preferences to return to the last place you where, when you log off
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ConductorX Nieuport
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11-30-2007 07:05
If I had an Island I would prefer to rent the land out for the income than sell it and loose control anyway. If rental is the preferred and recommended method I can go with that.
My question about the sandbox is how can I avoid leaving stuff or find the stuff when I crash. I don't want to be a bad citizen.
"G"
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Dekka Raymaker
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11-30-2007 07:17
From: ConductorX Nieuport If I had an Island I would prefer to rent the land out for the income than sell it and loose control anyway. If rental is the preferred and recommended method I can go with that. The point about islands is that the original owner never loses control, they can sell it and the next day, kick the buyers out, take back the land, and steal their money. From: someone My question about the sandbox is how can I avoid leaving stuff or find the stuff when I crash. I don't want to be a bad citizen. Sandboxes are made so that objects get returned to your lost and found eventually, if your leaving them there because you crash, thats nothing to be worried about. Cleaning up after yourself when you can is just considerate to other users.
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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11-30-2007 07:17
Let's clear up the land misconception If you buy land from Linden Labs, it is yours to keep until you don't make tier payments - nobody else can take that from you. If you buy land from a private party - you're not really buying it, you're renting it, no matter how many "ownership" labels get put on it. It can be taken from you at any time for any reason.
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Qie Niangao
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11-30-2007 07:23
From: ConductorX Nieuport SL crashes about 20 to 30 min after starting. When I am able to quit normally and restart I find myself in one the free markets I visited a few days before. Then I have to go back to the sand box where I was working. That rate of crashing must be pretty frustrating. There's a whole black art to getting a working configuration for SL to be happy (unless one is lucky and it "just runs"  . Usually the first step is to make very sure that you have the latest version of drivers for the graphics card. Then, usually, it's a matter of tinkering with the various graphics options in Edit | Preferences until things stabilize. (Well, that solves about 90% of the problems, except on Vista; on Vista, SL runs like most everything runs on Vista: sometimes, maybe, for a while.) As for where you arrive when you login, there's a relevant preference for that, too, at the top of the General tab. Unless you have somewhere you really want to (and can) call "home", you'll probably want that set to "My Last Location", but with the Show Start Location on Login Screen checked (so you can just type in a region name, if you know you want to start somewhere else sometime). But anyway, what's probably happening is that you've always crashed at the sandbox; if you can manage to Quit there, gracefully, that should be the location you'll start from the next time you login. About leaving stuff behind in the sandbox: yeah, that's a little naughty, but it happens all the time. If you really want to find your stuff before it gets returned to you, one way is a little advanced. You need the Client debug menu (Control-Alt-D), make "Disable Camera Constraints" checked and Limit Select Distance UNchecked; then from the Tools menu, check Select Only My Object and Select By Surrounding. Then try to move the cam way up and away from the sandbox, and in the Editor drag a selection box over any area where your stuff might be; if it highlights, it's yours. (Plan B: Use World / Create Landmark Here wherever you're working, so you can quickly find it again. Except some places won't let you create landmarks. And others make them less-than-friendly by always routing you to a Landing Point when you arrive.)
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Chas Connolly
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11-30-2007 07:31
On the sandbox question - the others have been answered - when you're building something, keep linking the parts as you go along and rename your build (house, car, bed, etc.) so you don't have an inventory full of mysterious 'objects'.
If you then crash and can't get back before it's returned to you at least you'll be able to find your work in progress easily in your inventory.
Put it back out and carry on.
Good luck.
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Lindal Kidd
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11-30-2007 09:59
From: HoneyBear Lilliehook Let's clear up the land misconception If you buy land from Linden Labs, it is yours to keep until you don't make tier payments - nobody else can take that from you. If you buy land from a private party - you're not really buying it, you're renting it, no matter how many "ownership" labels get put on it. It can be taken from you at any time for any reason. The flip side of this, for the island owner, is that you can't really "sell" your island off in chunks, like you can a piece of mainland. You always own it, and always have to pay tier on it. So you have to hustle and find renters/buyers/whatevers who want to live there with you and help you meet those tier payments.
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Bobbyb30 Zohari
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11-30-2007 10:02
From: ConductorX Nieuport If was to buy an Island, would I be allowed to sell or rent parcels of land? (Make a subdivision and sell lots). My Landmark list has the same locations listed numerous times. I tried to delete the excess landmarks to no avail. SL crashes about 20 to 30 min after starting. When I am able to quit normally and restart I find myself in one the free markets I visited a few days before. Then I have to go back to the sand box where I was working. I respect the sandbox rules about cleaning up, but sometimes I crash and then return. My objects are gone when I return. Later I'll get messages that my objects are being returned to inventory. Thanks in advance, "G" Yes you may sell and subdivide regional land. Try deleting them again. Welcome to SL. Most sandboxes have auto return set.
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Sunni Jewell
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11-30-2007 10:30
From: ConductorX Nieuport My Landmark list has the same locations listed numerous times. I tried to delete the excess landmarks to no avail.
Thanks in advance, "G"
It seems the other questions are being answered by other's more knowledgeable about those things than I am....but can help you with this one. Are you trying to delete your landmarks from your map or from "landmarks" in your inventory? If you're deleting them from "landmarks" in inventory, they will go into your trash folder, in which case they're still considered to be in your inventory and will be under your landmarks drop down on your map. You then would have to right click on your "trash" folder and click on empty trash....which might crash you. They may have fixed that bug, though, as I don't crash anymore when I empty trash. If you're trying to delete your landmarks from your map, you can't. What you have to do is open your inventory window, click on file and show filters. When the box comes up with your filters, click on "none" and then just click the box for landmarks. Your inventory box will then only show all the landmarks in your inventory. Then delete what you need to delete, go back to the filter box and click on all to normally show your inventory. The majority of things you buy will have a landmark in the box or folder that you receive upon purchase. So, let's say you buy 5 hairs from somewhere, you will then have 5 landmarks for that place in your landmarks under your map. But you can delete them as I explained above. Easy peasy. 
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ConductorX Nieuport
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11-30-2007 10:50
From: Dekka Raymaker The point about islands is that the original owner never loses control, they can sell it and the next day, kick the buyers out, take back the land, and steal their money.
Oh yes that would suck. The Lindens allow such things to happen? As a newbie I think I would have to raise a fuss. It will be a long time before I reach such a point anyway. "G"
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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11-30-2007 12:28
LL will not intervene in any player to player disputes over money. 
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Avion Raymaker
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11-30-2007 12:48
From: ConductorX Nieuport Oh yes that would suck. The Lindens allow such things to happen? As a newbie I think I would have to raise a fuss. It will be a long time before I reach such a point anyway.
"G" Conductor, are you talking about buying a whole island yourself? In that case, you can't lose your island in this way. The warnings here are about "buying" a subdivided parcel from an existing island owner. Sunni, THANK YOU! I have been irritated about the landmark thing since about day 2 of my existence, and never even thought about filtering.
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Darien Caldwell
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11-30-2007 13:05
And most Estate owners are honest, reputable people. While you can have a few dishonorable people running estates, you can, and do, have just as many renting mainland. You will find those who try to make all Estate owners out to be crooks often have their own agenda, probably involved with mainland ventures. I have 40 completely satisfied renters on my Estates who are more than happy to tell anyone they don't regret renting from an Estate. I'm not going anywhere, and in fact in about a week I'll be adding 4 regions. So to those who constantly try to make Estate rentals out to be a crook's game, all I can say is, it's not. For every time someone comes to the forums complaining of being cheated from Estate Rental, there are few hundred thousand who weren't.
Edit: Fixed the last sentence.
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
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11-30-2007 13:19
Actually Darien, I've been very lucky. I have a great estate owner. They pretty much leave me alone, yet are there when I need them, and I don't worry about them skipping out from under me.
This was just a clarification in terms - that "buying" from anyone but LL doesn't mean that you actually "own" anything.
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Brenda Connolly
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11-30-2007 13:19
From: Darien Caldwell And most Estate owners are honest, reputable people. While you can have a few dishonorable people running estates, you can, and do, have just as many renting mainland. You will find those who try to make all Estate owners out to be crooks often have their own agenda, probably involved with mainland ventures. I have 40 completely satisfied renters on my Estates who are more than happy to tell anyone they don't regret renting from an Estate. I'm not going anywhere, and in fact in about a week I'll be adding 4 regions. So to those who constantly try to make Estate rentals out to be a crook's game, all I can say is, it's not. For every time someone comes to the forums complaining of being cheated from mainland, there are few hundred thousand who weren't. QFT. I live on an Estate, and the person I rent from is as Honest and upfront as they come. He leaves us alone, is available to help with problems if we can't work them out ourselves, is very considerate if you have money issues, and informs us well in advance of any proposed changes, often letting us vote on them. I'm sure there are plenty of others like him as well, several already frequent this forum.
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Darien Caldwell
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11-30-2007 13:31
In my anger I mistyped the last sentence, I should have said:
"For every time someone comes to the forums complaining of being cheated from Estate Rentals, there are few hundred thousand who weren't."
I just get tired of the constant Estate bashing, it's really unjustified.
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ConductorX Nieuport
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11-30-2007 15:30
I wasn't bashing anyone for sure just trying to understand.
Why rent vs. owning your own place? In RL, I would always avoid rent.
Then again if I owned bunches of SL land I would pay the Lindens rent.
So Darien you rent residential places? businesses or what?
Thanks in advance, "G"
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