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Rock Vacirca
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01-04-2010 06:42
The SL wiki page on Private Region types says that the maximum number of avatars per type are as follows:

Full Region: 100
Homesteads: 20
OpenSpaces: 10

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Private_Region_Types

Does anyone know what happens if you try to exceed these numbers? For example, if on an OpenSpace region an 11th avatar tries to teleport there?

Rock
Damien1 Thorne
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01-04-2010 06:46
I would guess you would get the "Region Full" message just like mainland.
Rock Vacirca
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01-04-2010 06:58
From: Damien1 Thorne
I would guess you would get the "Region Full" message just like mainland.


I didn't ask about mainland as I could not imagine a scenario where a mainland region actually had 100 avatars in there to exceed, hence the reference to private regions where exceeding an Openspace max avatar limit of 10 would maybe be more likely to have been encountered.

Anyways, does that message come up on mainland regardless of whether you try to teleport into a full region, or whether you try to enter it on foot over a sim border?
Damien1 Thorne
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01-04-2010 07:00
From: Rock Vacirca
I didn't ask about mainland as I could not imagine a scenario where a mainland region actually had 100 avatars in there to exceed, hence the reference to private regions where exceeding an Openspace max avatar limit of 10 would maybe be more likely to have been encountered.

Anyways, does that message come up on mainland regardless of whether you try to teleport into a full region, or whether you try to enter it on foot over a sim border?

Yes, you get the message either way, when there are 40 avi's in the mainland sim.
Argent Stonecutter
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01-04-2010 07:27
From: Rock Vacirca
I didn't ask about mainland as I could not imagine a scenario where a mainland region actually had 100 avatars in there to exceed
Mainland regions can and often do have 40 avatars, which is the limit there. When you have too many avatars for a region and you try and enter, you get a region full message.

From: someone
Anyways, does that message come up on mainland regardless of whether you try to teleport into a full region, or whether you try to enter it on foot over a sim border?
It says "Sim Crossing" or "Teleport" can not be completed because the region is full.
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Rock Vacirca
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01-04-2010 11:31
From: Argent Stonecutter
Mainland regions can and often do have 40 avatars, which is the limit there. When you have too many avatars for a region and you try and enter, you get a region full message.

It says "Sim Crossing" or "Teleport" can not be completed because the region is full.


Many thanks for that.

Any idea why the maximum for avatars is set at 40 for mainland regions but 100 for private island regions?

Rock
Argent Stonecutter
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01-04-2010 11:40
From: Rock Vacirca
Many thanks for that.

Any idea why the maximum for avatars is set at 40 for mainland regions but 100 for private island regions?

Rock

It used to just be 40. They decided that if someone wanted to lag their private estate to hell (in Class 4 days that was literally the truth) they could. Isolated Class 5 can actually handle 100 avatars if they're mostly not physical and if there's not too much network activity, but they left the mainland limit at 40.
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Chilly Charlton
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100 is a fuzzy number
01-04-2010 12:12
Just like all things in SL nothing is perfect. I think they "try" to limit at 100 but I have had 104 in a sim at one time. I'm sure it was so lagged that the sim couldn't update or read it's count in time to cut off in time or something. But the record I've seen is 104 ... at an Extreme event of course =c)
Qie Niangao
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01-04-2010 13:10
Trivia: Lindens can temporarily bump up the limit on a Mainland sim on-the-fly by a small amount (maybe 10%-ish?) without any special authority.

As Argent mentioned, a private island owner is the one who suffers from whatever lag is created by an inflated avatar count, whereas a Mainland sim may be shared by many landowners.

Perhaps also worth noting: Mainland sims have many more neighboring sims on average than do private sims, so a primary agent in one Mainland sim is likely to be a child agent in more sims than would a primary agent on a private sim. That means the pain spreads further, and there's a chance a cluster of busy sims could rack up per-sim totals of primary and child agents in the hundreds, even with the limit of 40 in each sim.
Johan Laurasia
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01-04-2010 14:27
From: Argent Stonecutter
It used to just be 40. They decided that if someone wanted to lag their private estate to hell (in Class 4 days that was literally the truth) they could. Isolated Class 5 can actually handle 100 avatars if they're mostly not physical and if there's not too much network activity, but they left the mainland limit at 40.


What do you mean by "mostly not physical"? All avatars are physical objects.
Argent Stonecutter
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01-04-2010 14:51
From: Johan Laurasia
What do you mean by "mostly not physical"? All avatars are physical objects.
If an avatar is sitting on a non-physical prim it's not physical.

Also, if a physical object is just sitting on the ground without doing anything for a while it's supposed to go non-physical until it's bumped or moved.
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