Risk API Disgrace
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YallY Jun
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Join date: 5 Sep 2007
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09-09-2007 07:54
That 'Risk API' thing has gone mad or joined the US Nazi party. It's flagging tons of people as risky for no reason.
Does anybody know how it works? -Is it like, "test: this parson not giving money to Lindens so call them a thief and flag them as risky."
It's just like Nazi Germany when jews were not allowed to run business.
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Johnny Rambler
Dances on Broken Glass
Join date: 27 Mar 2005
Posts: 69
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09-09-2007 08:15
I, and many others have experience the same thing, and I am a concierge. Seems more like it's a badly coded peice of software than a deliberate attempt to piss people off...though the results are the same. It always seems to be that it happens on the weekends too.
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Jessica Elytis
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09-09-2007 08:16
From: Johnny Rambler Seems more like it's a badly coded peice of software than a deliberate attempt to piss people off... I thought that was SL, not API? ~Jessy
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Mickey James
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09-09-2007 08:19
From: YallY Jun That 'Risk API' thing has gone mad or joined the US Nazi party. It's flagging tons of people as risky for no reason.
Does anybody know how it works? -Is it like, "test: this parson not giving money to Lindens so call them a thief and flag them as risky."
It's just like Nazi Germany when jews were not allowed to run business. wow, invoking the Nazis right in the very first post. Impressive display of outrageous hyperbole there. (Yes, badly behaving software affecting your leisure time is exactly like Nazi Germany.)
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Zen Zeddmore
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
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09-09-2007 08:19
What is this "risk API"? I've not heard of it (that i recall)
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Yolanda Boucher
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Risk API Failed...why?
09-09-2007 08:20
I hate to be a part of SL Ranting as well, but here is the problem. I run a small business, and an Escort service as well, I pool my monies, and try to deposit into slexchange, but as you, I have been marked as a "RISK". I too would like to know why this is happening, is it new? What are the driteria for deeming one a risk? If I had to guess (and it is just a guess) the first criteria to meet would be premium member... Are you a premium member? I know I am not. If it seems to be a trend... I, for one, would like to know.... Please ppl, jump on this thread, and let us know if this is happening to you too. I am not going to say Linden labs are Nazi's, but I certainly wonder what the motive is for this change. I am sure it is the almighty dollar that has swayed them this direction. It is frustrating when you cant even spend the money on slexchange after you have earned it... I love the exchange for the convenience, It take alot of time searching sl for particular items, but if the monies are unavailable... I would think that slexchange would be more aggressive in helping those in need as well. I have not placed a post there, but have read many that have had the same problem, and the answer is the same, see article 351, which doesnt seem to exist here on sl. Slexchange's response is less than I had expected. So, all blame cannot be placed JUST on SL. IMO
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Jessica Elytis
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Join date: 7 Oct 2005
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09-09-2007 08:22
From: Zen Zeddmore What is this "risk API"? I've not heard of it (that i recall) Seach the Knowledge Base (on the Support page), for "Risk API". You'll get LL's description of it, as well as links to follow the the SL Grid website about it. ~Jessy
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Jessica Elytis
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09-09-2007 08:28
As a side thought, I'm surprised the larger merchants on SLexchange aren't upset over this. The whole API system is so shoddily put together that it has to be preventing valid sales. ie Profits. Maybe once the buisnesses realise that, they can give SLexchange (and LL) a smack upside the head. Change is good. Stupid change is stupid. Poorly planned change is stupid change. Poorly executed change is stupid change. I'd like to tattoo that on Philip's forehead. Or maybe another part of his anatomy that the rest of his management team might see more often  ~Jessy
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Denise Bonetto
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Join date: 31 Jan 2007
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09-09-2007 08:28
From: Yolanda Boucher I hate to be a part of SL Ranting as well, but here is the problem. I run a small business, and an Escort service as well, I pool my monies, and try to deposit into slexchange, but as you, I have been marked as a "RISK". I too would like to know why this is happening, is it new? What are the driteria for deeming one a risk?
I really don't know, so only guessing. You run an escort agency and pool your money, do people pay you direct and not through a sale item? That could flag you as a risk. They will be looking for money laundering and 'gifts' on the transaction history could look suspect.
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Jessica Elytis
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Join date: 7 Oct 2005
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09-09-2007 08:30
From: Denise Bonetto I really don't know, so only guessing. You run an escort agency and pool your money, do people pay you direct and not through a sale item? That could flag you as a risk. They will be looking for money laundering and 'gifts' on the transaction history could look suspect. Which, given the free-market style of the SL economy, makes about as much sense as waxing a porcupine. Not saying you are not correct in your guess on how teh system works. Just if the system works that way, maybe someone with a brain should program it next time. ~Jessy
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Dekka Raymaker
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Join date: 4 Feb 2007
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09-09-2007 08:35
Maybe one can wonder if everyone will be a RISK, except for those who sell for L$10?
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Nina Stepford
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09-09-2007 08:35
some day i must try waxing a porcupine.
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Xplorer Cannoli
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09-09-2007 08:41
From: Mickey James wow, invoking the Nazis right in the very first post. Impressive display of outrageous hyperbole there. (Yes, badly behaving software affecting your leisure time is exactly like Nazi Germany.) Its not just about badly behaving software. The OP may have gone a bit overboard on the analogy but you jerked the argument to the other side by saying its just affecting "leisure" time. Listen, some folks don't give back thousands of US dollars every year in tier fees just to get an "oops" by LL with absolutely no recourse because you are removed from support as well in game, unless they have an alt that also pays concierge fees. Who knows how long the bans are for, but even for a day can be way too long. Think of the folks that simply just leave and do not come back, not contacting LL for support. Some people will not stand for it and simply walk away...
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Kitty Barnett
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09-09-2007 08:54
From: Xplorer Cannoli Think of the folks that simply just leave and do not come back, not contacting LL for support. Some people will not stand for it and simply walk away... If stipends are 5 seconds late, or if any random thing breaks, you'll instantly see 50 posts on it. If the RISK API was as broken as people claim the forums would be filled with angry, venting people. The fact that it's only a one-every-few-weeks occurance means that it only results in a small amount of false positives. The OP also didn't even bother to explain what actually happened, just made a claim and an inflammatory remark.
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Mickey James
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09-09-2007 08:56
That's a fair point and I don't mean to minimize the problem. Obviously it's a real obstacle to some people in their business pursuits.
But it's not Nazi Germany or anything close ... why make that comparison at all, let alone in the very first post? People react to it, usually not in the way the OP probably intended.
But it's a side point, and I don't want to drag it offtopic, so that said, I'll leave it.
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Marianne McCann
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09-09-2007 09:18
From: YallY Jun It's just like Nazi Germany when jews were not allowed to run business. Godwined in the first post... Mari
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Alyx Sands
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09-09-2007 11:40
ARRRR! *fumes* Why can't people just LEAVE THE BLOODY NAZI COMPARISONS OUT OF THIS! I refuse to say anything on what the OP asked (er, did he actually ask a proper question?  ) because he invokded Godwin's law. I find it BROADLY OFFENSIVE. Yes. *flounces out of room*
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AWM Mars
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09-10-2007 05:30
From: Alyx Sands ARRRR! *fumes* Why can't people just LEAVE THE BLOODY NAZI COMPARISONS OUT OF THIS! I refuse to say anything on what the OP asked (er, did he actually ask a proper question?  ) because he invokded Godwin's law. I find it BROADLY OFFENSIVE. Yes. *flounces out of room* How else do you think the Flamers are going to attract attention???? And each person that responds (me included so it seems) only serve to bump this pathetic post to the top...
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Cherry Czervik
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09-10-2007 05:49
From: Mickey James That's a fair point and I don't mean to minimize the problem. Obviously it's a real obstacle to some people in their business pursuits.
But it's not Nazi Germany or anything close ... why make that comparison at all, let alone in the very first post? People react to it, usually not in the way the OP probably intended.
But it's a side point, and I don't want to drag it offtopic, so that said, I'll leave it. I'm with Mickey on this one. Besides, it shows a lack of understanding of what actually happened and frankly I find anyone comparing anything to the Nazi regime offensive. Unless it happens to be neo-Nazi groups, huh. *edit* you go girl ... Godwin's Law ... rofl
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FD Spark
Prim & Texture Doodler
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
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09-10-2007 05:53
Well I wonder about this when I was newer. I never been flagged. There been few times I have recieved large gifts but never from anyone I didn't know. There is a warning about accepting large linden based dollars from strangers in API risk but it doesn't make sense. Actually they recommend having the person especially strangers to give you cash outside of the SL if its large sums of money instead of lindens. Yet this doesn't entirely make sense because there are people who recieve thousands of dollars worth of lindens because they are selling a sim, building jobs, services that often are over one or two thousand USD or even more from strangers If we only traded cash for items outside of the game I wonder how LL would feel when people quit buying lindens all together except to pay credit for membership dues?
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Tomas Gandini
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09-10-2007 05:54
From: Jessica Elytis ... Change is good. Stupid change is stupid. Poorly planned change is stupid change. Poorly executed change is stupid change. ... ~Jessy Jessy, best discription of SL lately, that I've read.  You could add, Change for change sake is stupid change, to that.
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