OpenSpace sims no long counting Traffic

Are OS sims no longer calculating or displaying traffic?

I was wondering the same thing. I noticed mine was at 0 this morning and figured it was just me, guess not >.<

IF that is so, then it would make sense.

It would be a good way of discouraging use of OS for commercial / club / pack-'em-in use.

Dropping OS sims from search completely might be an extension on that. That might be a step to far that would punish people who use an OS for use as a public art space or park.

Has anyone visited the La Reve sim , for instance?
It's not an OS, but it only uses about 8500 prims.
The whole thing is a sculpture. It's brilliant, and the kind of thing that LL should be supporting if only be ensuring that there is a low-cost way for people to maintain that sort of sim.

Very Interesting move if it is true.

Removing traffic from them would be far more effective than jacking up the price. Oddly enough, it'd tick off a lot less users too. But I don't think LL would stop with doing just that, nope.

Afetr submitting a ticket about this... a reply from LL suggested/implied that "techinicians" were working on the "problem". Pretty amazing though that this only happened to OS sims one of which I happen to be on. And still amazing that this happens on the busiest day of the week. I'll see how my classified and and the "All New" (beta) web-search search draws in traffic today.

BTW... nice meeting you Dilbert and thanx for stopping by.

If traffic is such a big drain on resources then it's a grid wide issue not an openspace issue.

*If* it were the case that 'no traffic for OS' was by design rather than accident, then the driver would not be any load imposed by the measurement of traffic per se.

The thought would be that if OS sims could not have a traffic figure then they would not rank high in any search algorithm in which traffic was a factor,
Anyone who wanted to attract people to their sim via Search would not use an OS sim.

Do you believe that the "number" traffic does still attract people or does have any importance in the new web search algo (few inbound links from the top 10 to 500)?

Nice meeting you too
Nice place you have there
Hey if They answer your ticket and give any further solution please post it here when you can thanks

You quoted part of my post, but appear to have missed the bit that immediately preceeded the part you quoted.


I am aware that LL are moving to downplay the effect of Traffic on search, given that the thing has been gamed to hell and back by people who put their own interests first. I understand that All Search does not consider Traffic (or maybe gives it a very small influence.

However, that is not the point in this thread.
The uses to which LL wish OS sims to be put are not uses for which Traffic is relevant.
Therefore it would make sense to zero traffic for OS sims.

From the Status page:

The traffic is not relevant for anything today (the reason of my post), for OS'es nor for regular SIM's, i believe that any action take by Linden Lab wouldn't be anyway aimed to influence the OS usage by removing an insignificant number, and it seems (in fact) that it was just an "error".
Reducing the scoring on the web search (ie: /2 or /4) for OS would have more sense to me.

I have a very strong suspicious you are wrong. After talking to a couple of non-forum people they told me they strictly go by traffic. When i told them about bots, they said they did not care because it showed that #1 traffic person cared more to get people there and that they would just go down the list from there.

Only people on the forums avoid traffic bot gamers and a few 'in-the-know' non-forum residents.

Yes.
It's very simple.
Whatever LL may be doing with search algorithms, it remains that there is a perception that Traffic means "good".

If high traffic numbers had no value at all, then nobody would run bots or camping pads.

Why are search results in Places ranked by Traffic?
Why is the Traffic number displayed at all?

To an uninformed user, Traffic is an indicator of popularity. The high numbers are the hot spots.

If LL are not in a position to police the abuse of the Traffic metric, then they should just dump the meaningless thing completely.
Dumping the metric for OS sims would help to achieve their aims with regard to the use of OS.

However, it would appear that there is "nothing to see here - move along please" as the 0 traffic of this thread is simply the usual borkyness.

Thats funny. The 10 hour time frame ends about the same time traffic has been updating anyway.
Passive post lol

I think the status page is smoke and mirrors on this one.

Does anyone have a Full prim sim with 0 traffic?

100% of our OS sims are at 0 traffic, yet all our full sims have normal traffic counts.

I do agree that OS sims need no traffic, but only under their new 750 prim definition.

If the new Homesteads are meant for light commercial(and traffic *has* to be part of search) they will need the traffic metric still.

Some people are reporting that their mainland parcels have 0 traffic, I've had that before. However the OS thing is interesting as I noticed it yesterday.

Well that crushes that conspiracy theory..... =P


Although...I have also had days where random regions show 0 traffic.

Indeed i may be wrong, but i've did the same research since i run my own business (so know more about it would affect my sales), and i've ended with that conclusion.
I've asked around the first months that the new "websearch" was out and the traffic had a certain relevance (indeed ppl weren't used to aim at the new search feature, so many of them were still using the "now old" Places, sorted by traffic to find what they were looking for), this percentage has progressively reduced by time, possibily by two factors: more of old ppl are enjoying the new search method; more new ppl kicked in and they are using it from the start (they never experienced the old places search..).
I've conducted my own "pratical" tests also, moving intentionally my traffic in the 5k - 50k area, to check how it would have affect my sell, and i had the same result: in the very first months moving to the top (for my relevant search keys) would have meant +300% (average) more sales; while the "traffic factor" reduced to an insignificant percentage after.. until today. At the same time i've "joked" with the new web search engine, in the way moving intentionally from the back pages to the very first spot, obtaining the same results as i experienced previously with the traffic.
So i come to my "perfect" balance (maybe it works for me, and it won't works for other types of lands.. i'm talking about a "store that sell things", prolly for a land focused on social activities it would be different...): having some green dots on the map, and being in the first place for your key terms (im actually focused to being at the top with 4 or 5 keys) actually pays back... while doing more traffic doesn't count anything (i would be stupid to not use it: i can do 100k of traffic with the press of a button (as many others here...), without paying anything (bots are free), but it would be only a waste of resources... *for me*).