Zindra picks and classifieds

Ok so I set up a vendor on a mature parcel of land in Zindra. The land it is on includes a description of its adult content and activities, including adult words. If I put it in my picks or classifieds the adult photo image and language is visible to anyone who looks at them, even when I am on PG land.

So now that we have a "Mature" continent, can we have "Mature" picks and classifieds that show that information about the "Mature" parcel? Or is this still an ARable offense?

Is this another one of those little details that LL forgot to address?

When I have seen the question asked, the answer from Blondin was always that the parcel can be in your picks, but you (and anyone else with that pick) needs to change the text of the parcel description and picture. Profiles still have to be PG.

**edit to add: You know, I haven't seen an answer about classifieds.

Hey man, you beat me to this post. The classifieds at least have an option to mark things mature. I would think that would cover it. The profile I keep seeing the PG rating mentioned but I think that should be changed if that's the case. Not sure how this whole filtering thing applies here either. It would be nice if R rated profiles were just filtered out for the PGers.

Ok, first, to avoid confusion, Zindra is Adult, not Mature. If you cannot see a difference between the two, you need to get the 1.23 SL viewer.

Search now has an option to show PG, Mature and Adult Classifieds, Parcels, Events, etc. So only people who have selected to see Adult listings will see Adult listings.

I do not know how Picks to Adult locations will be handled. Maybe they won't show, if you haven't Enabled Adult items in Edit>Preferences>General Ratings.

Picks currently act as in-bound links for the purposes of the All Search, so more Picks for a location equals a higher Search rating.

It's my understanding though that the Pick is only as effective as the keywords in it. So if you want a high ranking on "sex," for example, the Picks only help you out for "sex" if "sex" is actually in the Pick text. If someone edits it and takes out "sex," it doesn't help for "sex."

Is that a correct understanding of how Picks work in Search?

If so, Adult businesses are going to get throttled in the Search if residents have to edit the Picks. If residents have to edit the Adult picks, they are inclined to do the easy way out (substituting a short blurb that removes a lot of keywords, not just the adult ones), or the easier way out and not pick up Adult Picks at all.

The fact that you're standing on PG land/sim doesn't affect what you can see in search or a profile. If you're account's an "adult" one, and you've got all the boxes ticked, you'll see everything, no matter where you are.

As I understand this, if I place a classified for an "Adult" store in Zindra, it shows up in my profile. I believe anyone who looks at my profile can see it, and if it contains "Adult" words or pictures they can AR me. Is that correct?

If so then there is no safe way for me to have a classified for "Adult" products or activities. I'm asking this because I received two warnings from LL last year for having "Adult" products and descriptions featured in my profile picks. I can't see how the classifieds in my profile will be any different.

The question seems to be, does that General Ratings preference filter picks and classifieds?

Edit: Reading the Knowledge Base it appears it will filter out classifieds, but not picks.

yes. your profile is supposed to be pg.

that's what blondin keeps saying and he ignores questions about how you can put an adult classified up when it's in your profile and when asked about adult picks and a supposed pg rating for profiles he just restates that profiles should be pg.

I'm afraid it's that parallel universe again where LL aren't good with assessing the consequences of their decisions and we have to bear the brunt of it. Out of everything I've seen down the years in here this one has to be the most definitive example of everything that is wrong with LL and its dealings with its customers.

Sigh...

People now have the right to turn on adult, and then be offended by what they see once they do...

Frankly, I wish I could set my profile to adult, so you could only see it if you enabled that. And then I wish I could live in an SL where people can only be offended when they find what they were -NOT- specifically looking for...

... sigh ...

Adult picks should be fine. As long as the picture and the description hangs on to the PG guidelines that have always been in place in regards to public listings, it should fly. But, yes, this is all missing information from LL. All we can do is guess or request clarification. (>_<

I'm not sure if LL has been enforcing profile picks and classifieds. There are many sex areas that have existed for a long time that have land descriptions with every perverted word under the sun and actively encourage members to add their sex location to the member's picks. The owners of such sites also have classifieds with 'descriptive' ads. I haven't heard of anyone complaining that they were banned because of this because they surely have this classified ad sitting in their profile.

Zindra also includes Mature Regions as well as Adult regions - On Wednesday/Thur 42 of the Zindra regions had their classification changed from Adult to Mature . Most of these are the empty water regions in the north west of Zindra but some of the coastal regions were also switched from Adult to Mature - Including regions where Land allocations have been made, Broadwater , Pedrow & Schazm for instance and there are others.

EDIT: I'm unsure of the exact time the change was made but they were still adult at 06:00am SLT on the 1st and Mature by 08:00am on the 2nd.

EDIT2: It does mean that non verified accounts can reach some of the Zindra Continent now (I have confirmed this is with a NPIOF non-Age verified account)

/me checks the calendar to see if it's April 1.

You are having a laugh, aren't you?

I wish It's an easy rectifiable mistake for a Linden with Estate Controls - but someone in LL is not talking to others in LL . Personally I'd also prefer it if the Linden protected Sea Areas were also given back their Adult rating as well.

Incompetence is the keyword here.

Jack said in his last office hours that there was no one actually in overall charge of this fiasco. It shows.

I've asked about adult classified and "all profiles are PG" policy twice in office hours. No answer so far.

I don't understand how they can insist the profile be PG when the classified automatically show up in your profile and filtered keywords are allowed. In deed, part of the benefit of owning adult land is so that you can advertise with filtered words. So why then create a policy that makes it an AR-able offense to actually run classified ads with the keywords necessary to describe your product

LL really needs to come up with a realistic policy regarding profiles. Perhaps only the first page of the profile needs to be PG, but the inner tabs are free from rating restrictions. Or a technical solution that allows us to flag our profile as mature or adult. Or even to have different sections for each rating level. Insisting on "PG Only" is so unrealistic as to be no policy at all.

Would even this work? Aren't there some groups that have Adult words in their names?

Actually, LL needs to just toss all of this crap right into the crapper where it belongs.