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Crystal Falcon

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04-28-2008 15:08

Wow, I'd thought this would be happening and now researchers' studies are showing it.

Here is an interview from NPR with Professor Jeremy Bailenson of Stanford's "Virtual Human Interaction Lab", which shows weight loss and self perception changes through vicarious reinforcement...

"...the way you pick your avatar has very, very drastic affects on how you behave" (in RL)

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Desmond Shang

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04-28-2008 15:24

So ah... what if you have cat ears and a tail?

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04-28-2008 15:30

I very definitely flew the other day.
Most of it was downwards, admittedly.... but it WAS flying... kinda

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Dakota Tebaldi

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04-28-2008 16:12

So what does this mean for the fellow in that other thread who's looking for a "kill" animation?

Milla Alexandre

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04-28-2008 16:30

So like... if my avatar does yoga and rides a bike every day....will I also get in better shape?

Interesting... I think the research here is still very much in infancy though....we just haven't been interacting as virtual selves long enough to know what the long term, broad spectrum effect is going to be on people. I know way more people who don't do virtual, than who do.

I'd be real curious to see what they have to say about all this in 20 years.

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04-28-2008 16:32

And what does that do to all the Lindens with horribly ugly/disfigured avatars?

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04-28-2008 16:45

I did feel like I had a shoe up my ass earlier today...

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04-28-2008 17:37

(O_O) .... I'm in trouble.

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Morgaine Alter

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04-28-2008 17:39

looks like the never ending thread has competion ...

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Kiboe Munro

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04-28-2008 17:46

umm,, its two sides, those who spent hours on end in SL and consider their avvie an "extension to their real life"
yes

BUT, me?, i have gotten to busy, i have time to spare on nights and thats about it, i tend to be busy with work or RL projects for sl most of the time.

Kira Zobel

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04-28-2008 17:47

And what of shapeshifters?

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04-28-2008 17:47

From: Desmond Shang

So ah... what if you have cat ears and a tail?

You'll end up fuzzy and extra limber?

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Kiboe Munro

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04-28-2008 17:51

i belive this was on SLCN.tv's metanomics to

http://slcn.tv/metanomics-nick-yee

Davin Romano

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04-28-2008 18:07

You should all buy my new RL tshirt

"i live
vicariously
thru my av"

then we should all join ImprovEverywhere and go make a statement in public! (wonders if IE is already in SL)

Virrginia Tombola

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04-28-2008 19:12

From: Milla Alexandre

So like... if my avatar does yoga and rides a bike every day....will I also get in better shape?

Serious point--I started making Victorian cycles because I thought penny farthings looked cute and I was hanging about in Caledon. I really hadn't done much riding in RL since college, but I started thinking "if I enjoy riding a virtual cycle, perhaps I ought get back into REAL cycling".

Well, short story long, a year later, I ride about 10-15 miles a day. I'm hardly a competitive cyclist, but it gets me out of the house, and I have started to lose a bit of pudge I picked up over the last couple of years.

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Crystal Falcon

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04-28-2008 20:34

From: Milla Alexandre

...we just haven't been interacting as virtual selves long enough to know what the long term, broad spectrum effect is going to be on people. I know way more people who don't do virtual, than who do.

I'd be real curious to see what they have to say about all this in 20 years.

Not 90 seconds?

Oh I'm sure there will be long term affects on society, just like TV or automobiles, but interestingly, these behavioral changes happen to us after just 90 seconds of interacting in world apparently!

Here's a previous article from the same researcher before the results in the interview...

From: Professor Bailenson

This change in self-perception happens remarkably quickly. “It only takes 90 seconds of exposure to a mirror image transformed in age, height or gender to cause drastic changes in behavior."

And congratulations Virrginia!

That's wonderful, a true example of how we could apply this for improving ourselves couldn't we?

It seems to me to be like any self improvement book that suggests visualizing yourself achieving your goal isn't it?

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Virtual behaviour affects self? (NPR interview)
Crystal Falcon Registered Silly User Join date: 9 Aug 2006 Posts: 631	04-28-2008 15:08 Wow, I'd thought this would be happening and now researchers' studies are showing it. Here is an interview from NPR with Professor Jeremy Bailenson of Stanford's "Virtual Human Interaction Lab", which shows weight loss and self perception changes through vicarious reinforcement... "...the way you pick your avatar has very, very drastic affects on how you behave" (in RL) _____________________ TP to Crystal's Facets in world: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Kress/120/5/146/ Shop my natural AO poses, clothing, tools with XStreet:
Desmond Shang Guvnah of Caledon Join date: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 5,250	04-28-2008 15:24 So ah... what if you have cat ears and a tail? someonegottaaskthetoughquestions _____________________ Steampunk Victorian, Well-Mannered Caledon!
Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548	04-28-2008 15:30 I very definitely flew the other day. Most of it was downwards, admittedly.... but it WAS flying... kinda _____________________ Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used. http://www.ace-exchange.com/home/story/BDVR/589
Dakota Tebaldi Voodoo Child Join date: 6 Feb 2008 Posts: 1,873	04-28-2008 16:12 So what does this mean for the fellow in that other thread who's looking for a "kill" animation?
Milla Alexandre Milla Alexandre Join date: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 1,759	04-28-2008 16:30 So like... if my avatar does yoga and rides a bike every day....will I also get in better shape? Interesting... I think the research here is still very much in infancy though....we just haven't been interacting as virtual selves long enough to know what the long term, broad spectrum effect is going to be on people. I know way more people who don't do virtual, than who do. I'd be real curious to see what they have to say about all this in 20 years.
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	04-28-2008 16:32 And what does that do to all the Lindens with horribly ugly/disfigured avatars? _____________________
Raymond Figtree Gone, avi, gone Join date: 17 May 2006 Posts: 6,256	04-28-2008 16:45 I did feel like I had a shoe up my ass earlier today... _____________________ Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	04-28-2008 17:37 (O_O) .... I'm in trouble. _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Morgaine Alter dreamer Join date: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 1,204	04-28-2008 17:39 looks like the never ending thread has competion ... _____________________ https://www.xstreetsl.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=125705 From: Phil Deakins My zip gun stays right where it belongs - in my pants!
Kiboe Munro Registered User Join date: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 338	04-28-2008 17:46 umm,, its two sides, those who spent hours on end in SL and consider their avvie an "extension to their real life" yes BUT, me?, i have gotten to busy, i have time to spare on nights and thats about it, i tend to be busy with work or RL projects for sl most of the time.
Kira Zobel Registered User Join date: 6 Jan 2006 Posts: 345	04-28-2008 17:47 And what of shapeshifters?
Nic Writer Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 740	04-28-2008 17:47 From: Desmond Shang So ah... what if you have cat ears and a tail? You'll end up fuzzy and extra limber? _____________________
Kiboe Munro Registered User Join date: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 338	04-28-2008 17:51 i belive this was on SLCN.tv's metanomics to http://slcn.tv/metanomics-nick-yee
Davin Romano jerk Join date: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 384	04-28-2008 18:07 You should all buy my new RL tshirt "i live vicariously thru my av" then we should all join ImprovEverywhere and go make a statement in public! (wonders if IE is already in SL)
Virrginia Tombola Equestrienne Join date: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 938	04-28-2008 19:12 From: Milla Alexandre So like... if my avatar does yoga and rides a bike every day....will I also get in better shape? Serious point--I started making Victorian cycles because I thought penny farthings looked cute and I was hanging about in Caledon. I really hadn't done much riding in RL since college, but I started thinking "if I enjoy riding a virtual cycle, perhaps I ought get back into REAL cycling". Well, short story long, a year later, I ride about 10-15 miles a day. I'm hardly a competitive cyclist, but it gets me out of the house, and I have started to lose a bit of pudge I picked up over the last couple of years. _____________________ Horses, Carriages, Modern and Historical Riding apparel. Ride a demo horse, play whist, or just loiter. I'm fair used to loiterers. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Caledon%20Eyre/48%20/183/23/
Crystal Falcon Registered Silly User Join date: 9 Aug 2006 Posts: 631	04-28-2008 20:34 From: Milla Alexandre ...we just haven't been interacting as virtual selves long enough to know what the long term, broad spectrum effect is going to be on people. I know way more people who don't do virtual, than who do. I'd be real curious to see what they have to say about all this in 20 years. Not 90 seconds? Oh I'm sure there will be long term affects on society, just like TV or automobiles, but interestingly, these behavioral changes happen to us after just 90 seconds of interacting in world apparently! Here's a previous article from the same researcher before the results in the interview... From: Professor Bailenson This change in self-perception happens remarkably quickly. “It only takes 90 seconds of exposure to a mirror image transformed in age, height or gender to cause drastic changes in behavior." And congratulations Virrginia! That's wonderful, a true example of how we could apply this for improving ourselves couldn't we? It seems to me to be like any self improvement book that suggests visualizing yourself achieving your goal isn't it? _____________________ TP to Crystal's Facets in world: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Kress/120/5/146/ Shop my natural AO poses, clothing, tools with XStreet:

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