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Ciaran Laval

Mostly Harmless

Join date: 11 Mar 2007

Posts: 7,951

11-28-2007 11:45

The latest blog:

"In addition, two confusing and almost unused options have been deprecated:

* Deny Payment Info on File
* Deny Payment Info Used

These are found in the ‘Estate’ tab of World > Region/Estate and the ‘Ban’ tab of World > About Land. This is in preparation for a change to the user interface around land access coming in 1.18.6 (which should make access restrictions much easier to use)."

I've got more faith in payment info used than I have in Identity verified that's for sure.

Darien Caldwell

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Join date: 12 Oct 2006

Posts: 3,127

11-28-2007 12:16

I was wondering the same, but no idea. I guess I'll see what appears tonight when I can finally log in.

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Brenda Connolly

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11-28-2007 12:18

From: Darien Caldwell

I was wondering the same, but no idea. I guess I'll see what appears tonight when I can finally log in.

We'll just have to wait for the announcement....2 weeks after it happens.

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Darien Caldwell

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Join date: 12 Oct 2006

Posts: 3,127

11-28-2007 12:19

From: Brenda Connolly

We'll just have to wait for the announcement....2 weeks after it happens.

Good, I can be all clairvoyant until then

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Viktoria Dovgal

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Join date: 29 Jul 2007

Posts: 3,593

11-28-2007 12:25

Those particular boxes *were* a little confusing, how much demand was there to block people *with* payment info?

Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

11-28-2007 12:32

Ummm. Actually, those two options *were* pretty useless. The only reason I can imagine to BAN someone because they DO have payment info on file or payment info used might be to keep them away from a Money Tree intended only for poor, impoverished newbies.

The only ban or allow tab that related to payment info that most people found useful was the ability to ban people who DID NOT have any sort of payment info on file. And that choice isn't affected by this change.

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Sling Trebuchet

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Join date: 20 Jan 2007

Posts: 4,548

11-28-2007 12:48

From: Viktoria Dovgal

Those particular boxes *were* a little confusing, how much demand was there to block people *with* payment info?

Political correctness. The options allowed a discrimination against freebies, without being accused of picking on them specifically.

With IDV, one should expect an option to block IDV-verified people on the basis that they are filthy perverts who only verified so that they could access porn.
It's only fair - even if there is no demand for it.

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Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

11-28-2007 13:00

I'm actually way more concerned about this comment:

"This is in preparation for a change to the user interface around land access coming in 1.18.6 (which should make access restrictions much easier to use)."

Ok - does this mean that (finally) users will receive a popup warning when they first setup a whitelist on their mainland property - advising them of the social implications of doing such, and the importance of being a good neighbor?

Probably not, but a man can dream, right?

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Darien Caldwell

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Join date: 12 Oct 2006

Posts: 3,127

11-28-2007 13:17

From: Travis Lambert

I'm actually way more concerned about this comment:

"This is in preparation for a change to the user interface around land access coming in 1.18.6 (which should make access restrictions much easier to use)."

Ok - does this mean that (finally) users will receive a popup warning when they first setup a whitelist on their mainland property - advising them of the social implications of doing such, and the importance of being a good neighbor?

Probably not, but a man can dream, right?

Yes, and I'm sure banlines are now not ugly and maybe even pleasant to look at. Surely that must be so as well.

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Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

11-28-2007 13:22

From: Darien Caldwell

Yes, and I'm sure banlines are now not ugly and maybe even pleasant to look at. Surely that must be so as well.

In the future, all banlines will be textured to resemble hedges of rose bushes. *smirk*

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Chris Norse

Loud Arrogant Redneck

Join date: 1 Oct 2006

Posts: 5,735

11-28-2007 13:40

From: Travis Lambert

I'm actually way more concerned about this comment:

"This is in preparation for a change to the user interface around land access coming in 1.18.6 (which should make access restrictions much easier to use)."

Ok - does this mean that (finally) users will receive a popup warning when they first setup a whitelist on their mainland property - advising them of the social implications of doing such, and the importance of being a good neighbor?

Probably not, but a man can dream, right?

They will probably do that at the same time they give a lesson in basic manners. You know things like if it isn't your land and it isn't open to the public, then don't trespass on it.

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Malachi Petunia

Gentle Miscreant

Join date: 21 Sep 2003

Posts: 3,414

11-28-2007 14:56

From: Chris Norse

They will probably do that at the same time they give a lesson in basic manners. You know things like if it isn't your land and it isn't open to the public, then don't trespass on it.

This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me
-- ©1956 Woody Guthrie, the long haired pinko hippie freak

Chris Norse

Loud Arrogant Redneck

Join date: 1 Oct 2006

Posts: 5,735

11-28-2007 15:31

From: Malachi Petunia

This land is your land, this land is my land
From California, to the New York Island
From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters
This land was made for you and me
-- ©1956 Woody Guthrie, the long haired pinko hippie freak

Guthrie was more red than pink.

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I'm going to pick a fight
William Wallace, Braveheart

“Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind”
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Starfire Desade

Can I play with YOUR mind

Join date: 10 Jul 2006

Posts: 404

11-28-2007 15:51

From: Ceera Murakami

In the future, all banlines will be textured to resemble hedges of rose bushes. *smirk*

We need two types of ban lines...

1... No access line - Make this one look acceptable. It is used mostly to keep non-members out, so shouldn't be obtrusive to look at. It should also have a polite warning to people that don't have access.

2... Ban line - if their name is on a ban list, it should be obtrusive.. Make it completely opaque and fill the area from 0m to infinity. Make it so you can't cam through it.

Ciaran Laval

Mostly Harmless

Join date: 11 Mar 2007

Posts: 7,951

11-28-2007 15:59

From: Starfire Desade

We need two types of ban lines...

1... No access line - Make this one look acceptable. It is used mostly to keep non-members out, so shouldn't be obtrusive to look at. It should also have a polite warning to people that don't have access.

2... Ban line - if their name is on a ban list, it should be obtrusive.. Make it completely opaque and fill the area from 0m to infinity. Make it so you can't cam through it.

3. A revenge ban line on the neighbouring parcel that goes through the walls of the home of the people who put the first ban line up to see how they like it.

Colette Meiji

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Join date: 25 Mar 2005

Posts: 15,556

11-28-2007 16:13

From: Viktoria Dovgal

Those particular boxes *were* a little confusing, how much demand was there to block people *with* payment info?

youd be able to block everyone from the forums.

SO that might be something some people would want.

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Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	11-28-2007 11:45 The latest blog: "In addition, two confusing and almost unused options have been deprecated: * Deny Payment Info on File * Deny Payment Info Used These are found in the ‘Estate’ tab of World > Region/Estate and the ‘Ban’ tab of World > About Land. This is in preparation for a change to the user interface around land access coming in 1.18.6 (which should make access restrictions much easier to use)." I've got more faith in payment info used than I have in Identity verified that's for sure.
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	11-28-2007 12:16 I was wondering the same, but no idea. I guess I'll see what appears tonight when I can finally log in. _____________________
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	11-28-2007 12:18 From: Darien Caldwell I was wondering the same, but no idea. I guess I'll see what appears tonight when I can finally log in. We'll just have to wait for the announcement....2 weeks after it happens. _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	11-28-2007 12:19 From: Brenda Connolly We'll just have to wait for the announcement....2 weeks after it happens. Good, I can be all clairvoyant until then _____________________
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	11-28-2007 12:25 Those particular boxes were a little confusing, how much demand was there to block people with payment info?
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	11-28-2007 12:32 Ummm. Actually, those two options were pretty useless. The only reason I can imagine to BAN someone because they DO have payment info on file or payment info used might be to keep them away from a Money Tree intended only for poor, impoverished newbies. The only ban or allow tab that related to payment info that most people found useful was the ability to ban people who DID NOT have any sort of payment info on file. And that choice isn't affected by this change. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548	11-28-2007 12:48 From: Viktoria Dovgal Those particular boxes were a little confusing, how much demand was there to block people with payment info? Political correctness. The options allowed a discrimination against freebies, without being accused of picking on them specifically. With IDV, one should expect an option to block IDV-verified people on the basis that they are filthy perverts who only verified so that they could access porn. It's only fair - even if there is no demand for it. _____________________ Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used. http://www.ace-exchange.com/home/story/BDVR/589
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	11-28-2007 13:00 I'm actually way more concerned about this comment: "This is in preparation for a change to the user interface around land access coming in 1.18.6 (which should make access restrictions much easier to use)." Ok - does this mean that (finally) users will receive a popup warning when they first setup a whitelist on their mainland property - advising them of the social implications of doing such, and the importance of being a good neighbor? Probably not, but a man can dream, right? _____________________ ------------------ The Shelter The Shelter is a non-profit recreation center for new residents, and supporters of new residents. Our goal is to provide a positive & supportive social environment for those looking for one in our overwhelming world.
Darien Caldwell Registered User Join date: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 3,127	11-28-2007 13:17 From: Travis Lambert I'm actually way more concerned about this comment: "This is in preparation for a change to the user interface around land access coming in 1.18.6 (which should make access restrictions much easier to use)." Ok - does this mean that (finally) users will receive a popup warning when they first setup a whitelist on their mainland property - advising them of the social implications of doing such, and the importance of being a good neighbor? Probably not, but a man can dream, right? Yes, and I'm sure banlines are now not ugly and maybe even pleasant to look at. Surely that must be so as well. _____________________
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	11-28-2007 13:22 From: Darien Caldwell Yes, and I'm sure banlines are now not ugly and maybe even pleasant to look at. Surely that must be so as well. In the future, all banlines will be textured to resemble hedges of rose bushes. smirk _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735	11-28-2007 13:40 From: Travis Lambert I'm actually way more concerned about this comment: "This is in preparation for a change to the user interface around land access coming in 1.18.6 (which should make access restrictions much easier to use)." Ok - does this mean that (finally) users will receive a popup warning when they first setup a whitelist on their mainland property - advising them of the social implications of doing such, and the importance of being a good neighbor? Probably not, but a man can dream, right? They will probably do that at the same time they give a lesson in basic manners. You know things like if it isn't your land and it isn't open to the public, then don't trespass on it. _____________________ I'm going to pick a fight William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL
Malachi Petunia Gentle Miscreant Join date: 21 Sep 2003 Posts: 3,414	11-28-2007 14:56 From: Chris Norse They will probably do that at the same time they give a lesson in basic manners. You know things like if it isn't your land and it isn't open to the public, then don't trespass on it. This land is your land, this land is my land From California, to the New York Island From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters This land was made for you and me -- ©1956 Woody Guthrie, the long haired pinko hippie freak
Chris Norse Loud Arrogant Redneck Join date: 1 Oct 2006 Posts: 5,735	11-28-2007 15:31 From: Malachi Petunia This land is your land, this land is my land From California, to the New York Island From the redwood forest, to the gulf stream waters This land was made for you and me -- ©1956 Woody Guthrie, the long haired pinko hippie freak Guthrie was more red than pink. _____________________ I'm going to pick a fight William Wallace, Braveheart “Rules are mostly made to be broken and are too often for the lazy to hide behind” Douglas MacArthur FULL
Starfire Desade Can I play with YOUR mind Join date: 10 Jul 2006 Posts: 404	11-28-2007 15:51 From: Ceera Murakami In the future, all banlines will be textured to resemble hedges of rose bushes. smirk We need two types of ban lines... 1... No access line - Make this one look acceptable. It is used mostly to keep non-members out, so shouldn't be obtrusive to look at. It should also have a polite warning to people that don't have access. 2... Ban line - if their name is on a ban list, it should be obtrusive.. Make it completely opaque and fill the area from 0m to infinity. Make it so you can't cam through it.
Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	11-28-2007 15:59 From: Starfire Desade We need two types of ban lines... 1... No access line - Make this one look acceptable. It is used mostly to keep non-members out, so shouldn't be obtrusive to look at. It should also have a polite warning to people that don't have access. 2... Ban line - if their name is on a ban list, it should be obtrusive.. Make it completely opaque and fill the area from 0m to infinity. Make it so you can't cam through it. 3. A revenge ban line on the neighbouring parcel that goes through the walls of the home of the people who put the first ban line up to see how they like it.
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	11-28-2007 16:13 From: Viktoria Dovgal Those particular boxes were a little confusing, how much demand was there to block people with payment info? youd be able to block everyone from the forums. SO that might be something some people would want.