Along the lines of stolen content... what about AVs?

I know there is a freebie, full-perm men's skin that has been circulating around that is clearly ripped off from a major skin manufacturer. The original skin sold for about $4000L.

Will the Lindens remove the stolen one so that any guy using that particular skin will rez one day to find himself with a base Linden newbie skin only?

There are loads of free and resold skins in circulation that were ripped from expensive originals. LL would have to go after re-uploaded textures instead of the skin assets if they would want to avoid too too many false positives, it's been a popular hobby of these counterfeiters to paste the ripped textures onto templates with the names of established makers.

If those were to go away now, no big deal really. Especially with the Eloh stuff and the updated library skins now out there, there isn't any shortage of legitimate free stuff for people who don't want to pay.

Question is if they rezz at all or just get a "texture missing" replacement instead... if such steps were taken. But from what I understand from watching the discussion from the background, it would take input from the original creator to get the Lindens going.

Aside from that, I dislike the term "freebie" for ripped ware. Neither was it originally intended to become full permission. But how would a new player know about the difference?

Who knows? They might remove everything that the av responsible has ever created, they might might remove everything by anyone that they have ever had contact with, they might randomly pick a dozen avatars and remove all of their stuff... nobody knows how this now works and LL refuses to tell anyone.

There doesn't necessarily have to be a reuploaded texture.

Since you can get the viewer to apply a texture to a prim face by UUID alone, it's not impossible or even likely that the same is possible for clothing layers.

Did you bother to let the original creator know 'bout the theft? Only THEY can report it under the DMCA.

/me sighs...

Unfortunately that's true... I seriously doubt that even the Lindengs know what they're doin' or what they'll do next.

So far that really hasn't been a big problem because that would require writing the functionality instead of copying and pasting =)

To the OP, I don't think one can differentiate between a legally bought skin and a freebie version of it. I think they both have the same UUID as this was stolen by a permissions problem and not through copybot (that's what I heard at least). If you delete that skin all the people who bought it legitimately at the creator's store will be mad.

That's not true, copybotted textures are saved as regular targas to a HD, then reuploaded, hence being assigned a new uuid


http://www.secondscripter.com/

With a re-uploaded texture it's clearly direct theft, however with a referenced UUID it *may* be theft but more likely a mistake.

I wouldn't, so I doubt new players would be able to tell the difference either. This means that if you have your expensive somthing or other removed from you because it was stolen you become a victim of the crime as well as the vendor it was originally stolen from.

What a pity that SL can be so much like RL sometimes

There must surely be a technical solution to this nonsense.

she was referring to past permissions exploits, aka the malibu passport skin, not to reuploaded textures.

I want to clarify that I'm not in favour of stolen itens...

I just want to say that it's unffair for most of the costumers that buy without knowing that the content was previous stolen to look into their inventories and found that they loose lots of lindens of items... Please don't come with that sentence that thieve is both the buyer and the seller, how many of you even with lots of months of SL sometimes buy something without knowing that it was stolen? I never did it, but I'm sure some of us sometimes buy just because they like the design, or just because it's affordable.

If LL can trace IPs and since the money leave LL via lindex, wasn't better if LL just froze all seller assets instead of taking out items from inventories? Because sometimes the seller is deleted but we all know some cases of Avs that reborn after that, and in the final the only one who was punished was the one who bought without knowing that on that pretty shop that he/her saw that lovely item was indead stolen property...

There are both in circulation. A few well known skins accidentally got out there with full permissions (generally attributed to SL problems at the time rather than creator error), while newer ones are generally re-uploads.

there is nothing LL can do about that. If someone pushes a DMCA then LL *has* to remove all instances of the contested digital property. Period.