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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-13-2009 21:28
What is the biggest SL has ever been?

Been displayed, that is.

I only have 17 inch monitors, it can't get too big on those, even using two of them together.

Some of you have big monitors, big screen TV and DVD display monitors, that you use for SL.

How big is the biggest one that has been used to display SL?

Some of the mixed reality events may have been using large projectors to display SL. What's the biggest?

Has SL ever been displayed on a movie theatre sized screen?
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Weston Graves
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12-13-2009 22:06
How about at a concert? Hasn't there been real life concerts with a counterpart taking place in SL at the same time. I'd bet they show that on the screens many of these concerts use these days. What do they call those screens? Jumbotrons, I think.

I can't recall off hand which act or acts did this however. Maybe it was just a rumor I heard.


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12-13-2009 22:29
A Jumbotron? Like one that is 32 by 18 feet?

Boy, I'd like to see that video card. :)
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12-13-2009 22:49
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
17 inch monitors, it can't get too big on those,


I can testify that SL can look superb on 22 inch monitors. I'll bet people with 24 inchers will say the same. But, screens the size of big-screen TVs and larger...is it just a mass of pixels? (You've got me, too, curious about this now.)

Edit---I've just remembered that "office of the future" set-up they have at LL headquarters: the RL conference table that 'continues' into a wall-sized monitor.

I wonder if they did some special tweaking to make that possible.
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12-13-2009 23:25
I think pixel count would matter more... I'm sure there are people that use projection screens. it's not the size, it's the resolution.
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12-14-2009 00:32
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I can testify that SL can look superb on 22 inch monitors. I'll bet people with 24 inchers will say the same.

I agree. I run multiple clients on two 22" Philips monitors with an nVidia 9800 GT card and SL never looked better. One on each is certainly fine although I did push it to five on a couple of occasions. The FPS was somewhere in the region of 10 for the active window, which was bearable.

I'm sure I've seen mention of people using much larger screens elsewhere on the forums - someone was singing the praises of one of those monster Apple monitors a long way back. I recall being very envious of them since my G3 is a museum piece.

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12-14-2009 01:04
From: Void Singer
I think pixel count would matter more... I'm sure there are people that use projection screens. it's not the size, it's the resolution.

I use a 24" LCD at 1920x1200, although I doubt that's anything special these days. I used to use a bigger monitor (LCD TV in fact) of about 40", although it was only around 1200x768. The extra pixels really do count more than the larger screen.
A physically bigger screen really only helps when the viewer is far enough away. There's probably an ideal size of pixel relative to distance where any bigger it starts to look blocky, any smaller and you can't resolve useful detail.
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12-14-2009 02:16
Big pixels yes, but not too annoying.

Brooklyn is Watching is a hybrid SL/RL project.
At Jack the Pelican Presents ( 487 Driggs Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11211, USA ) where gallery visitors will be able to see and interact with anything that happens at the above SLURL on the 52 inch monitor.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3504/3218208347_3152cd377a_o.jpg
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12-14-2009 09:13
From: Dekka Raymaker
Big pixels yes, but not too annoying.

Brooklyn is Watching is a hybrid SL/RL project.
At Jack the Pelican Presents ( 487 Driggs Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11211, USA ) where gallery visitors will be able to see and interact with anything that happens at the above SLURL on the 52 inch monitor.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3504/3218208347_3152cd377a_o.jpg


I have it running on a 24" LCD with two other 19" LCD's, on each side for "other" stuff. It looks fantastic. Video card = NVidia GTX260 clocked and a USB 512 meg External video card for one of the 19" LCD's (mostly used for low graphic applications such as chat). How kewl would it be to sit in the living room on the giant screen TV and play there.. hmmmm :))

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12-14-2009 09:33
From: Void Singer
it's not the size, it's the resolution.
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12-14-2009 09:44
From: Weston Graves
How about at a concert? Hasn't there been real life concerts with a counterpart taking place in SL at the same time. I'd bet they show that on the screens many of these concerts use these days. What do they call those screens? Jumbotrons, I think.


I have been to mixed reality events and saw what looked like a 40" on the meatspace side.
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12-14-2009 09:56
From: Void Singer
... it's not the size, it's the resolution.
Yeah sure - I've heard that before

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12-14-2009 10:01
I know at the recent "Rutgers Day" celebration, the SL component of the celebration was on an absolutely HUGE flat-screen monitor. I'll have to check the photos that I saw, but I believe the monitor was more than 3 feet wide, and more than 20 inches tall, based on the scale of the monitor compared to people standing around that table.
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12-14-2009 10:54
From: Kelli May
The extra pixels really do count more than the larger screen.
A physically bigger screen really only helps when the viewer is far enough away. There's probably an ideal size of pixel relative to distance where any bigger it starts to look blocky, any smaller and you can't resolve useful detail.


The human eye in good working order has a resolution of about 1 arc-minute (1/60 of a degree), therefore 3438 pixels per radian. What that means is:

(width of screen)/(distance from screen) * 3438 is the most you can see.

In my case that is (20 inches wide monitor)/(30 inches eye to screen) * 3438 = 2292 pixels. Since I have a "24" inch diagonal 1920x1200 for my larger monitor, that's close to the theoretical limit (and my eyes are not perfect either).

Some people have better vision than normal "good vision", which comes from having smaller cones in their retina, or larger eyes. So they might usefully use a higher detail display.
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12-14-2009 13:05
I am so regretting that phrase right about now... worse is the fact I knew it would go bad when I wrote it...

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that's what you get for dating men ;)
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12-14-2009 13:16
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(width of screen)/(distance from screen) * 3438 is the most you can see.
You're assuming that (width of screen)/(distance from screen) is small enough that sin(x) == x, yesnomaybe?

For my 23 inch flat panel 12 inches from my eye that's not a good assumption. Sorry, I'm short sighted and my eyes are too old to adjust. In the center of the screen I could definitely do with way better than my 1920x1200, but at the edges that seems almost enough.

I think I'd really be better off with a 1920x1200 15" monitor.
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12-14-2009 14:51
I will use my 42" plasma sometimes at 1040 x 9xx, it looks ok,but looks better on the 17" laptop. thats with hdmi out and a 8600m

I have used a 32" LCD with much better results running with a 9800gtx+ and I forget the resolution (I had more choices with that tv)
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12-14-2009 14:57
From: Void Singer
I am so regretting that phrase right about now... worse is the fact I knew it would go bad when I wrote it...

@LittleMe:
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Hey, I expected a reaction or two to the "24 incher" in my post. But apparently that's so high a number that it isn't joke-worthy.
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12-14-2009 19:29
I use my 37" LCD TV to view. And it is so nice compared to the 17" lappy I once used. Of course I bought and new rig 4 months ago so graphics are great. :)
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12-14-2009 19:43
I typically run SL on a 25" wide screen. It looks and works fine.

I have an aging 50" rear projection screen, that happens to have the same resolution as the 25" monitor. (which is why I bought the 25" instead of a pair of 22" monitors.) It doesn't look so great--probably because of the long component cable and the fact that it could probably stand to be focused again. (Not sure I can stand it tho.)

On my last job, we had a conference room with a 40 inch monitor. (I THINK it was a plasma.) I couldn't resist and HAD to run SL on it. The computer it was attached to wasn't all that. But SL looked just fine.

One of these days, I hope to add a second 25 inch screen, but I'm not sure how I'd fit it. Not to mention that it's the largest monitor in the house, and I'd have some explaining to justify having two of them.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-18-2009 20:44
Our seven foot tall avatars need a big screen to be life size.

I wonder what the psychological effect of having the world displayed life size would be.

Cisco Telepresence, for instance, attempts to make their high resolution images life size, and doing so reportedly produces a great increase in the degree to which participants feel like they are having an in-person conference instead of a tele-conference.
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12-18-2009 21:04
Linden lab has a mixed physical/virtual conference room which uses projection.

See here: https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2009/02/10/working-in-the-virtual-world
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