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skin theft?

Blade3000 Paine
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Join date: 15 Mar 2008
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01-14-2010 17:12
my wife and i have bought some skin textures off of slx market place about a year or so ago and have been selling only the skins we made from them.
now we have this big skin store threating to sue the sim owners that rent out booths,saying the skins were stolen.
ive even been wrongfuly banned from one because of this mess.
now keep in mind ive sent notecards to the person who is making the claim and they seem to refuse to answer me.
i have offered to stop selling them if they can prove that they were indeed stolen textutres.
so my question is should i stop selling them in my shop or is this a case of the big skin place trying to bully a new store out of selling skins?
also is the purchase of the textures in my transaction history good enough proof that they were not stolen?
p.s. i have seen the skin in question and if you tilt your head and skwint with one eye and poke ur finger in the other ..then they may appear to look similar.
Ann Otoole
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01-14-2010 17:17
They can DMCA you and you can file a counter DMCA and you guys can argue the technical points out in court in front of a judge.

Basically almost any full permissions skin kit on xstreet is rather questionable IMHO. I learned the hard way myself. Before you buy a full perms skin off xstreet you better check around real good.

This might be of interest: http://www.vintfalken.com/free-full-perm-female-skin-textures/
Pussycat Catnap
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01-14-2010 18:12
It might do to check them against popular skins on renderosity, daz3d, and even 'Sims' websites as well.
- While the angles and such are off, it wouldn't take too much photoshop work to transition a skin made for something like Daz3D's Victoria over to Second Life.

(and a good way to get suspicious might be noticing seams or blurring at the points where a person would have to make changes in photoshop to remap it.)
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01-15-2010 01:31
From: Blade3000 Paine
now we have this big skin store threating to sue the sim owners that rent out booths,saying the skins were stolen.

sim owners are not liable for the actions of the renters unless it can be proven that they knowingly assisted said renters in illicit activities... there is nothing legally compelling them to verify any seemingly legitimate operations.

so the threats are not only far fetched, but idiotic. This is just a bullying tactic used to scare people who don't know better. the sim owners should have referred the litigious nuts to LL and been done with it. I'd suggest you do the same.
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Phil Deakins
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01-15-2010 01:40
The skin textures that you bought may have been stolen, but there is no reason to stop selling them yet because they haven't been shown to be stolen.

It's no good checking the skin that it's alleged to be stolen from because the other person might have bought the textures just as you did. But check it anyway - it may be a different skin. Leave it to the other person to file a DMCA and continue as normal in the meantime.

Unfortunately, you can't do anything about sim owners where you rent your stores. There is no need for them to get jittery but you can't stop them doing it.
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Conifer Dada
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01-15-2010 04:35
Given the huge variety of skins that are available in SL, there are going to be many that look very similar to each other, so proving theft could be very difficult.
Patasha Marikh
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01-15-2010 09:09
Of course you could get very confrontational as well. If you are secure in the knowledge that you bought the templates in good faith, and you made unique modifications to them.. and the big designers skins do look remarkably like yours.... file a DCMA against them first. Then if they want to push it, the ball would be in their court. Of course if you think you might be selling stolen skins, well, best to just pack it in and move on to your next get rich quick scheme.
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Blade3000 Paine
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thanks
01-15-2010 11:53
thanks all for the info...i will continue to wait for this person to contact me before i do anything with these textures..
Cortex Draper
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01-15-2010 12:07
You should contact the person who is marked as the creator of the textures and ask them.
If they dont exist anymore then its likely the textures were stolen.