Threats and intimidation - could this be something to really worry about?

SO I have had an encounter with quite possibly the biggest douchebag and low-life I have ever met on SL. I hate drama, and avoid it whenever possible, so this is actually only the 2nd person I have ejected from my club, which has been running for about 4 months. To cut a ong story short, my manager's ex was at my club, speaking with my her. I said jokingly to him 'That thing on my shoulder is freaking me out!' and then jokingly said something about ejecting him (made obvious by what I said straight afterwards 'jk' I would never eject one of ****'s friends' 'hehehehe') It was obviously a joke said as /me hand hovers over the eject button', and it was only the 3 of us there anyway. He started to give total attitude 'Wow, bet u feel real tough with eject powers' and other demeaning comments basically about how he detests people who think they are all powerful. After a few of these comments, I DID eject him, as I didn't want a drama to unfold, as an event was starting soon.

5 minutes later he came back in an alt and griefed my land, and myself, with his alt wrapping 'her' legs around my head, with loud porn noises, and disgusting pics popping up everywhere( I did have a laugh about that later.). Lucily, the owner of the sim was there, and estate banned him and his alt. Thus ensued a number of insulting messages between him and my manager, with him saying he has 16 alts and was going to destroy my club, and that he could as he had so many alts, and would come when there was noone there. I threatened ARing, and we ended up meeting and I said if he kept away from my land, with any of his accounts, I wouldn't AR him. The next day he was seen on my land for half an hour (god knows how, he was meant ot be estate banned)and when confronted by my manager, he got enraged and started up his threats again. I then said 'That's it, he's being reported'. He then turned up again, and standing on the border of my property, he took a picture. I estate banned him again, and he IMed my manager, saying how he was Photoshopping the photo to send to LL. He said all his alts and his friends would be sending it in. Now for my question....how can that be a legitimite AR, if a snapshot is just sent in, and if it isn't submitted through the proper channels, as in filing it through the system? Could he just send them a picture, say doctored with bestiality scenes and/or child porn or whatever, and then possibly get me into trouble?? If so, wouldnt' that be an extremely unreliable way of reporting, as anyone with a grudge and PS could try and bully people?

Should this be something to worry about?

One picture, doctored in Photoshop, depicting something against T&Cs? I doubt that any action will be taken by LL.

It sounds to me like he'll quickly get bored of exacting 'revenge' against you and your friends. So long as you do absolutely everything you can to ignore him. You've already tried to talk to him which didn't work. So the next step imho is to blank him completely and report any griefing by taking pics and recording what's happening before banning the avatar doing the griefing. Any more drama filled conversations may just fuel his anger.

His griefing is totally unacceptable, I don't want to try and excuse it! However banning will never resolve a disagreement so long as people can create free alts.

Sorry for both of you.

That's one problem with this platform - there isn't any real body language to give clues to whether we are joking or not. You know, ejection or even the idle threat of it, does tick people off. I've been ejected just for crossing land on foot. I've been frozen and ejected just for inadvertantly wearing an av that emits a few particles I didn't know how to turn off. There ARE people with some kind of power trip in SL, but my way of handling it is to say "Fine - I don't need your officious ass anyway." And that's the end of it. I will never visit their sim again. It's a shame your tormentor isn't that mature. Life is too short for this sort of thing.

Oh - the Photoshop threat is pretty shallow. There is a record of all transactions somewhere, verbal and otherwise, I think.

I understand and agree totally with what you are saying. The only thing is that resolving the 'argument' isn't something that is important to me, after he proved his immaturity and lack of ability to discuss things as adults. I think it's any land owners/renters right to be able to ban troubemakers from their land, without fear of retribution from these immature idiots. What would be brilliant is is if there was an option to ban all accounts on a specific IP, so them and any of their alts couldn't come back.

Just AR him - without all the preamble. Just document the abuse.

As an aside: I can't get the name Vendetta out of my head when I read this thread

Sometimes it's difficult to ignore troublemakers, but ban / mute / ignore is the best policy. If a griefer gets no reaction then they'll get bored and move on. How many dancing cow attachments get griefed? I'd guess very few, because they don't react!!!

The less interaction there is, the less likely it'll become personal too. A griefer, even if it's a persistant one, is annoying, but a hothead with a personal grudge against you can be even worse .

I'm not sure if AR'ing days after the fact does a whole lot of good either, next time just file when the incident occurs if you feel it's serious enough (just don't tell you AR'ed). If things escalate you can file another, if you manage to reason with the person you still have the choice to either let the AR stand, or append it with the new information pointing out that you were able to resolve things yourself.

My recommendation: Mute, ignore, eject, ban. Without any delay or further ado. If he does something against the TOS, shrug it off and calmly AR him straight away.

Just don't feed the troll by entering any discussions. It's not worth it. Sooner or later he will go away if he does not get the gratification of a reaction.

I doubt they'd accept any kind of pictures or "chat logs" as "evidence" because of how easy it is to doctor them. The abuse reporting system allows you to include a screenshot which it has total control over, that's the only picture-type evidence they'd probably consider valid.

ugh.

ignore ignore ignore. let us know how it turns out.

I wonder if a non-SL client could send photoshopped pictures along with an abuse report in place of the system produced one?

*sighs*

Yes. It could. Good catch, Suz. A depressing catch, but a good catch.

I ~hope~ LL has figured this one out.

~Jessy