Second Life Forums Archive - What is Havok exactly?

Sensual Anaconda

Use the Back Door

Join date: 28 Jan 2007

Posts: 57

04-14-2008 20:14

I keep seeing the word Havok everywhere.
Can someone please explain what it is or what it does and where it is located?

Zach Wolfe

Outrider

Join date: 11 Dec 2004

Posts: 23

Havok

04-14-2008 20:19

Havok

Johan Durant

Registered User

Join date: 7 Aug 2006

Posts: 1,657

04-14-2008 20:31

Long story short, it is the name of a bunch of code incorporated into SL. It does physics calculations, so SL uses Havok to handle collisions between objects and that sort of thing.

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(Aelin 184,194,22)

The Motion Merchant - an animation store specializing in two-person interactions

Cherry Czervik

Came To Her Senses

Join date: 18 Feb 2006

Posts: 3,680

04-14-2008 22:34

Short answer is physics engine.

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Raymond Figtree

Gone, avi, gone

Join date: 17 May 2006

Posts: 6,256

04-14-2008 23:14

It's the thing that made most weapons in SL worthless including psitech.

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Ricky Yates

(searching...)

Join date: 28 Jan 2007

Posts: 809

04-15-2008 01:42

From: Raymond Figtree

It's the thing that made most weapons in SL worthless including psitech.

How's that? I'm not into weapons, so I may have missed something here. What has changed in the new physics engine rendering extant weapons ineffective?

Viktoria Dovgal

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Join date: 29 Jul 2007

Posts: 3,593

04-15-2008 01:52

From: Ricky Yates

How's that? I'm not into weapons, so I may have missed something here. What has changed in the new physics engine rendering extant weapons ineffective?

Push is now throttled, so some weapons aren't as powerful as they once were. Also, there were many weapons that exploited Havok 1 bugs that no longer work.

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Deira Llanfair

Deira to rhyme with Myra

Join date: 16 Oct 2006

Posts: 2,315

If you can login to JIRA, please vote for SVC - 2047

04-15-2008 02:29

Havok - very well named - is the reason why my best selling product has had to be taken off the market, and I can only offer an apology to my customers.

Regretably we have had to take our Couples Skating System off the market as it has not worked correctly since the Havok upgrade. (As far as I am aware, this was not exploiting any "bugs" in the previous system - it is a problem with vehicle turning.)

We are currently investigating if we can do anything to fix it, and we will provide a free upgrade to our customers if a solution is found.

An issue has ben raised on JIRA, but it is, as yet, unassigned.

Please vote for JIRA Issue: SVC - 2047, link below:

http://jira.secondlife.com./browse/SVC-2047

This is an issue that must be causing problems in many other products as well as ours, so please vote to get this problem fixed.

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Deira

Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.

Viktoria Dovgal

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Join date: 29 Jul 2007

Posts: 3,593

04-15-2008 02:39

From: Deira Llanfair

We are currently investigating if we can do anything to fix it, and we will provide a free upgrade to our customers if a solution is found.

You might look at http://jira.secondlife.com./browse/SVC-845 and see if some of the interactions in the comments apply to you (eta: esp. the llTargetOmega thing).

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Ollj Oh

Registered User

Join date: 28 Aug 2007

Posts: 522

04-15-2008 04:32

From: Raymond Figtree

It's the thing that made most weapons in SL worthless including psitech.

From: someone

Havok - very well named - is the reason why my best selling product has had to be taken off the market, and I can only offer an apology to my customers.

its that thing that made people realize that they suck at scripting and they finaly got a mercyful death.

Egon Rothschild

Never Enough Prims

Join date: 22 Apr 2006

Posts: 556

04-15-2008 07:18

From: Raymond Figtree

It's the thing that made most weapons in SL worthless including psitech.

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Cunundrum Alcott

A Sardonic Pessimist

Join date: 15 Jan 2007

Posts: 773

04-15-2008 07:21

Thanks, I was wondering also. I thought it was some kind of game like CSI

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Deira Llanfair

Deira to rhyme with Myra

Join date: 16 Oct 2006

Posts: 2,315

04-15-2008 07:25

From: Viktoria Dovgal

You might look at http://jira.secondlife.com./browse/SVC-845 and see if some of the interactions in the comments apply to you (eta: esp. the llTargetOmega thing).

Thanks Viktoria - I'll follow up on that one.

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Deira

Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.

Kyllie Wylie

J-Rocker

Join date: 7 Mar 2008

Posts: 489

04-15-2008 07:34

Havok was always there, they just upgraded it from Version 1.0 which SL has used up till now, to Version 4.0

This is still an older version of the engine btw. Think its up to 5.5 now if you want the latest version.

Deira Llanfair

Deira to rhyme with Myra

Join date: 16 Oct 2006

Posts: 2,315

Update....some good news

05-04-2008 04:52

Bumped this one as I'm trying all routes to get this message out and just in case any of our customers have read this:

If you have purchased a Pro Couples Skating system you wll now need an upgrade for it to work correctly with Havok 4.

We fixed the Pro Couple Skates (set 1) so they operate properly with the new Havok4 physics engine. To receive a free upgrade, send your Pro Couple Skates (set 1) to Sundi Metropolitan and she will send you Pro Couple Skates (set 1) v1.1. The new version contains an automatic update capability for future releases.

From: Deira Llanfair

Havok - very well named - is the reason why my best selling product has had to be taken off the market, and I can only offer an apology to my customers.

Regretably we have had to take our Couples Skating System off the market as it has not worked correctly since the Havok upgrade. (As far as I am aware, this was not exploiting any "bugs" in the previous system - it is a problem with vehicle turning.)

We are currently investigating if we can do anything to fix it, and we will provide a free upgrade to our customers if a solution is found.

An issue has ben raised on JIRA, but it is, as yet, unassigned.

Please vote for JIRA Issue: SVC - 2047, link below:

http://jira.secondlife.com./browse/SVC-2047

This is an issue that must be causing problems in many other products as well as ours, so please vote to get this problem fixed.

_____________________

Deira

Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.

What is Havok exactly?
Sensual Anaconda Use the Back Door Join date: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 57	04-14-2008 20:14 I keep seeing the word Havok everywhere. Can someone please explain what it is or what it does and where it is located?
Zach Wolfe Outrider Join date: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 23	Havok 04-14-2008 20:19 Havok
Johan Durant Registered User Join date: 7 Aug 2006 Posts: 1,657	04-14-2008 20:31 Long story short, it is the name of a bunch of code incorporated into SL. It does physics calculations, so SL uses Havok to handle collisions between objects and that sort of thing. _____________________ (Aelin 184,194,22) The Motion Merchant - an animation store specializing in two-person interactions
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	04-14-2008 22:34 Short answer is physics engine. _____________________ To exchange power is sublime. To steal from another ... well, what goes around comes around.
Raymond Figtree Gone, avi, gone Join date: 17 May 2006 Posts: 6,256	04-14-2008 23:14 It's the thing that made most weapons in SL worthless including psitech. _____________________ Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
Ricky Yates (searching...) Join date: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 809	04-15-2008 01:42 From: Raymond Figtree It's the thing that made most weapons in SL worthless including psitech. How's that? I'm not into weapons, so I may have missed something here. What has changed in the new physics engine rendering extant weapons ineffective?
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	04-15-2008 01:52 From: Ricky Yates How's that? I'm not into weapons, so I may have missed something here. What has changed in the new physics engine rendering extant weapons ineffective? Push is now throttled, so some weapons aren't as powerful as they once were. Also, there were many weapons that exploited Havok 1 bugs that no longer work. _____________________
Deira Llanfair Deira to rhyme with Myra Join date: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,315	If you can login to JIRA, please vote for SVC - 2047 04-15-2008 02:29 Havok - very well named - is the reason why my best selling product has had to be taken off the market, and I can only offer an apology to my customers. Regretably we have had to take our Couples Skating System off the market as it has not worked correctly since the Havok upgrade. (As far as I am aware, this was not exploiting any "bugs" in the previous system - it is a problem with vehicle turning.) We are currently investigating if we can do anything to fix it, and we will provide a free upgrade to our customers if a solution is found. An issue has ben raised on JIRA, but it is, as yet, unassigned. Please vote for JIRA Issue: SVC - 2047, link below: http://jira.secondlife.com./browse/SVC-2047 This is an issue that must be causing problems in many other products as well as ours, so please vote to get this problem fixed. _____________________ Deira Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	04-15-2008 02:39 From: Deira Llanfair We are currently investigating if we can do anything to fix it, and we will provide a free upgrade to our customers if a solution is found. You might look at http://jira.secondlife.com./browse/SVC-845 and see if some of the interactions in the comments apply to you (eta: esp. the llTargetOmega thing). _____________________
Ollj Oh Registered User Join date: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 522	04-15-2008 04:32 From: Raymond Figtree It's the thing that made most weapons in SL worthless including psitech. From: someone Havok - very well named - is the reason why my best selling product has had to be taken off the market, and I can only offer an apology to my customers. its that thing that made people realize that they suck at scripting and they finaly got a mercyful death.
Egon Rothschild Never Enough Prims Join date: 22 Apr 2006 Posts: 556	04-15-2008 07:18 From: Raymond Figtree It's the thing that made most weapons in SL worthless including psitech. _____________________ “If you talk to God, you are praying. If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia.”
Cunundrum Alcott A Sardonic Pessimist Join date: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: 773	04-15-2008 07:21 Thanks, I was wondering also. I thought it was some kind of game like CSI _____________________
Deira Llanfair Deira to rhyme with Myra Join date: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,315	04-15-2008 07:25 From: Viktoria Dovgal You might look at http://jira.secondlife.com./browse/SVC-845 and see if some of the interactions in the comments apply to you (eta: esp. the llTargetOmega thing). Thanks Viktoria - I'll follow up on that one. _____________________ Deira Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.
Kyllie Wylie J-Rocker Join date: 7 Mar 2008 Posts: 489	04-15-2008 07:34 Havok was always there, they just upgraded it from Version 1.0 which SL has used up till now, to Version 4.0 This is still an older version of the engine btw. Think its up to 5.5 now if you want the latest version.
Deira Llanfair Deira to rhyme with Myra Join date: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,315	Update....some good news 05-04-2008 04:52 Bumped this one as I'm trying all routes to get this message out and just in case any of our customers have read this: If you have purchased a Pro Couples Skating system you wll now need an upgrade for it to work correctly with Havok 4. We fixed the Pro Couple Skates (set 1) so they operate properly with the new Havok4 physics engine. To receive a free upgrade, send your Pro Couple Skates (set 1) to Sundi Metropolitan and she will send you Pro Couple Skates (set 1) v1.1. The new version contains an automatic update capability for future releases. From: Deira Llanfair Havok - very well named - is the reason why my best selling product has had to be taken off the market, and I can only offer an apology to my customers. Regretably we have had to take our Couples Skating System off the market as it has not worked correctly since the Havok upgrade. (As far as I am aware, this was not exploiting any "bugs" in the previous system - it is a problem with vehicle turning.) We are currently investigating if we can do anything to fix it, and we will provide a free upgrade to our customers if a solution is found. An issue has ben raised on JIRA, but it is, as yet, unassigned. Please vote for JIRA Issue: SVC - 2047, link below: http://jira.secondlife.com./browse/SVC-2047 This is an issue that must be causing problems in many other products as well as ours, so please vote to get this problem fixed. _____________________ Deira Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.

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