Ursula options narrowing, IDEAS thread.

This string is for ANY IDEAS on a way to keep our options as open as possible for as long as possible in this constantly shifting Adult Mature and PG rating stuff?

Maybe keeping our options open as long as possible will help us all finally make a much more informed choice about if or not to move to Ursula. Not just for business but for residents too.

Blonden Linden's answer on who can move: (yesterday)
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One, of many, ideas is to put your ad in with ALL options advertised, ie: from knitting classes to the most out there kink going on in free view in your garden. Regardless of if you do or don't do this stuff you're keeping/claiming the freedom to choose and range of activity as wide as possible, which is what a mature land owner paid for.

My mature land ad includes the freedom to shift from sandboxes to public view kinky sex... with a no kids warning. This is what I paid for and am trying to preserve




Any other ideas?

Advertise public events in as many topics as possible:

Create a skybox, advertise the event and just an opportunity for an open ad hoc gathering of like minded people (you don't need to turn up yourself). Choose a theme and a time/date, and go.

Matthew

So here's what I've done, although I have no idea whether it will really work:

I created a separate parcel for the Adult stuff (that's only because I have some Mature land that I don't want to move out from under tenants, and some other areas I just can't bring myself to part with).

Then I deeded the to-be-Adult parcels to a separate group with a very smutty charter, gave the parcels intensely Adult names and descriptions, listed them in Search, made some Profile Picks for them, built a sleazy "warehouse" on each of them, and rezzed inside some sex and bondage furniture together with affiliate vendors of some indisputably Adult content and a vendor and demo rezzer for one scripted BDSM item that I make myself--making sure any item on the parcel that could have an Adult-sounding name and description was listed that way in Search. (I may have made a classified for one of the parcels, too, although I doubt that really helps beyond the Search listing.)

Events are probably a good idea, too, although I think the (unenforced) rule is that some "host" representing the person who listed the Event must actually be present throughout the Event duration.

My Idea is to just give up and accept if this is what LL wants, this is what LL will get.

I will assume anything that shows more skin than a Mini skirt or conservative bathing suit is "Adult".

And anything with more sexual innuendo than you might hear on "Cheers" needs to be flagged. (Forget modern TV, that stuff is all "SL adult"

Qie's idea sounds good, but his sentimentality might cost him long run. Ursula land will probably be worth a whole lot more than normal "Mature" land as soon as LL realizes the monster they have created and try to throttle things back.

hmmm It occurs to me (based on your comment on Des's thread) that some people might *want* to get bumped to Bond-girl naughty land.



That one is easy - open a brothel before whatever arbitrary deadline LL has set.


Just needs a wall for those "rent-a-hooker-ad" signs, Fill it up with fake ads, write a sleazy description and Bingo .. call two Avs and a Truck


Unless the deadline passed already. That would suck. (Though not literally, since that would be adult.)

It seems that LL are hell-bent on the AO/Ursula change no matter what. The only workable idea in that case is that people affected get moved to Ursula.

Blondin's suggestion that people remove keywords from their parcels is just plain silly.

Talarus got it right in block capitals.
Removing keywords for content that exists on your land is completely counter to the concept of a "predictable" experience.
People will arrive and will not expect to see such content. THey might be conciously trying to avoid such content, believing that it only exists in Ursula.


It's very simple. If someone has content on their land that can be ARed as 'Adult outside of Ursula', then they need to be moved to Ursula.
They need to be moved for free, because land at auction and land offered for immediate resale will cost a fortune. At the same time, old mainland will have few buyers even at bot prices.

LL have created a monster.
They are trying to minimise land-swaps by kidding people that they don't have to move.
They are kidding people.


When faced with a direct question from someone, Blondin comes back with "The odds are that you'll be OK".
I thought gambling was banned?

They are doing something to people allright....but it isn't kidding.

yeah, its something that will go on in Ursula.

Bend over baby, I promise I'll be gentle.

yeah right!

Hiya Colette,

No not quite, more so the Linden cull is about to start. Not everyone on mature can go to adult.

As no one knows what is happening and I want to keep my choices as wide as possible until something is concrete.

So yeh, ideas like blatantly pointing out my mature land is adult rated in an ad so I can decide on yes or no on Ursula for myself, when I know what the choices really are.

A laggy crowded island full of people or my nice quiet place I LOVE full of sexual suppression and kids and the hassle that entails are the choices I can make out so far. Now it's just said that I might not even have that choice.

I don't want to see myself or other people culled out of the the chance to move it it proves better. None of us really know yet.

People might know lists of other games, how to host sims our selves, anything... is good. Fuck em.

You will not get to decide on Ursula. LL will. They will . You can submit a tcket and ask, but LL has the say whether you get a move, at least in the beginning. Another nice wrinkle. Build a place for a certain group of people , but then not let all of them move.

Alphonse Linden: I'm sorry, sir but your content will require moving to the Adult Continent. Please submit a Move Request Ticket.

Gaston Linden: I'm sorry sir, upon review of your content, your request will be declined. Your content falls under Mature, not Adult standards. Thank You and have a Nice SL Day.

that quote means they plan to offer you an ultimatum; change such and such on your parcel or we will take it.

Maybe I should buy a parcel now, Sex it way up, so I get moved by LL to Lalapornuza.

THAT way I wont have to buy New Pornville land at 20$/m in a couple of months.

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I really dont *need* "adult land" under *today's* definition of the term. especially with how busy I am with RL work ..

My shop does have some avatar nudity of the theoretical non adult variety. (vendor signs for shapes) , and somehow I still manage to make a small profit.

My concern is if I am not moved in the free swap period and then 2 months down the road the definition shifts and I am all of a sudden in violation of "mature" guidelines and there are no more swaps offered anymore.

Also I might want a Adult and a non-adult shop. Since some people will be leery ever leaving Sexytimeburg for the "PG/mature" continent out of fear that something about their wardrobe or profile is an ARable offense.

That WOULD be funny. I wonder if they would move you if you have a completely PG area with just a certain few words in the land description.

I think we need to sex up our listing for the Hangout area and start holding a few more nakie parties and pole strip dancing events.

Perhaps it might eventually get that low in the outer reaches of the granite desert part of Ursula.
I would expect the city areas (double-primmed and separated by Linden land) to be well more expensive than in Bay and Nautilus Cities.

LL appear to be making efforts to avoid giving free land to people with adult content.
The landowner will have to pursude LL thay they would suffer a "significant" "commercial" hit if they were not moved to Ursula.
That's going to leave a lot of people who will have to buy in Ursula. The land barons are going to go in heavy at the auctions. Ursula is going to be the only game in town for them, particularly for double-prim (half-tier per prim) land.

Is that the plan then? Some areas will be themed and double primmed and the rest traditional land? Are there rules for subdividing/joining/terraforming? There is so much talk around this issue I cannot keep track of what the Lindens are actually saying.

The first 15 or so minutes of the Landowners' brown bag meeting describes what's there. It's the same as Bay and Nautilus - pre-parcelled and no terraforming in the city areas. I didn't hear a mention of dividing/joining.
You can see the gridding on Map.

This is what gets me. They are going to force people to move from places some have spent years getting just right, and make them move to areas that may be totally unsuitable for the theme of their business. Why can't they even give that consideration to people? Why are there any set theme builds on Ursula? I think it's just another slap in the face.

Thanks. Like I said, I haven't been able to keep up.

Edit: did they ever publish a transcript, or is it just the mp3?

Not so far - the one 'transcript' they did come up with was nothing of the sort - simply a summary of points, not a true transcript. As for the rest, the promise to deliver transcripts has so far been a hollow one which, apart from anything else, is a slap in the face for our deaf friends.

By not providing transcripts, LL achieve a number of things
1. We don't know who was at the meetings. How many landowners at the Landowners meeting were mainlanders who would be affected by the change?? Who were they?
2. The sound recordings are tedious in the extreme and of poor quality. That discourages people from listening to them.
3. The absence of a text record prevents easy cutting and pasting of highlights that illustrate extreme muppetry and inconsistency.

Sounds like LL is being scummy about the whole thing.

On the upside Sin City sounds like it might be fun.

From Couldbe Yue:


And something from from Lord Sullivan at:


Lasher Oh has a poster:

Yeh, mine too, I have a beautiful little patch of land (only 1024sqm) on the mainland.. I don't actually want to move, but I do want the ratings I paid for, cuz at times I need them. I have great views, chilled out neighbors and have just put in trees mainly. I just use it to practice building and at times I'll have stuff there that would break the proposed new mature rating. I don't have a business up yet, but had planned a small skybox store selling PG through to Adult stuff.

So yeh, I'm trying to keep all my original options open, so far I have clarified my ad to include the range of activity that I originally paid for which I think ranges from sandbox building to erotic outdoor nudity and will put a funny sexual kinda pose ball I have out on the grass.

To me it seems they are mainly trying to stop outdoor sexual stuff, which is something I kinda like. Hence paying for mature. Over all I'd rather stay where I am, but not if LL want to cut my dick off.

PS.
Another HUGE issue for me is not wanting kids around, who's responsibility will they be and also how will AR's work? Will it change.