Renting Land - A warning
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Shipper Sodwind
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Join date: 25 Nov 2006
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09-12-2009 12:52
So, here’s the situation. You rent land and all of a sudden one day the must have Thomas Conover border and sim monitor reports as Low. You are on rented land so you report this to the owner, he then tells you to speak to a so called estate manager as he has so many sims he no longer bothers with his clients.
The estate manager also has the wonderful Thomas Conover meter and agrees that it’s the worst sim reading she has ever seen.
Two weeks go by and still the meter reports from bad to low. Effectively the land you are renting is un-useable And do you get any progress reports in the residents group about the problem? No is the answer, just some quite pathetic notices about photo competitions and someone has sold some land.
Obviously I will leave at the end of the current term and tell everyone I know not to rent from this Guy, but still, that’s not the point.
The day you stop giving a shit about your residents is the day you go Linden, and they are on borrowed time. Your clients ARE your business, no matter how big you think you are.
Lesson learned.
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Nika Talaj
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09-12-2009 13:03
Sometimes the Lindens can help when estate managers won't. It could be that some scripts have gotten into a borked state, or that (heaven forfend!) your sim has been borked by a lingering server bug. File a ticket with Support requesting a sim restart - include the readings from your sim monitor. Even basic accounts can do this.
Good luck! .
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Ciaran Laval
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09-12-2009 13:06
From: Shipper Sodwind The day you stop giving a shit about your residents is the day you go Linden, and they are on borrowed time. Your clients ARE your business, no matter how big you think you are.
Lesson learned. Touche. One of my tenants rented a plot from someone else too as she didn't think I did mainland rentals and there were no suitable plots on the island. At first she couldn't get a group invite, I even sent the owner a notecard on her behalf. Then when she finally got a group invite she found she couldn't use her prim allowance, another plot on the sim was overusing resources and nobody was doing anything about it. At the end of her term she rented a mainland plot from me, but you're right, she could just have easily decided she wanted no middleman and purchased land from LL.
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Treasure Ballinger
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09-12-2009 14:37
From: Shipper Sodwind So, here’s the situation. You rent land and all of a sudden one day the must have Thomas Conover border and sim monitor reports as Low. You are on rented land so you report this to the owner, he then tells you to speak to a so called estate manager as he has so many sims he no longer bothers with his clients.
The estate manager also has the wonderful Thomas Conover meter and agrees that it’s the worst sim reading she has ever seen.
Two weeks go by and still the meter reports from bad to low. Effectively the land you are renting is un-useable And do you get any progress reports in the residents group about the problem? No is the answer, just some quite pathetic notices about photo competitions and someone has sold some land.
Obviously I will leave at the end of the current term and tell everyone I know not to rent from this Guy, but still, that’s not the point.
The day you stop giving a shit about your residents is the day you go Linden, and they are on borrowed time. Your clients ARE your business, no matter how big you think you are.
Lesson learned. Sorry this happened to you but thanks for the tip on the Conover HUD; I just got it after reading your post and love it. (probably love it because my sim is 'Awesome'. However, the sim I bought it from was 'Bad'. 
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Marianne McCann
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09-12-2009 15:48
I just want to know more about this "Thomas Conover border and sim monitor"
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Treasure Ballinger
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09-12-2009 16:07
From: Marianne McCann I just want to know more about this "Thomas Conover border and sim monitor" after reading this I went and bought it. I'm wearing it as a HUD but it says you can just 'wear' it. It does some other things too but mostly I was interested in the fact it tells me sim performance, of whatever sim I am on, without me having to figure out the numbers. I bought an extra one for a gift and will send it to you with it's notecard explanation.
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Marianne McCann
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09-12-2009 19:42
From: Treasure Ballinger after reading this I went and bought it. I'm wearing it as a HUD but it says you can just 'wear' it. It does some other things too but mostly I was interested in the fact it tells me sim performance, of whatever sim I am on, without me having to figure out the numbers. I bought an extra one for a gift and will send it to you with it's notecard explanation. Aw, thanks! I'll hafta tinker with it!
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Shipper Sodwind
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Join date: 25 Nov 2006
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Update
09-19-2009 04:20
Now a full month in and still the excellent Conover meter reports low to bad. Not a sign of a fix from the owner just lots of IM's with variouse idea's on how to deal with it.
Obviously I am out at the end of the current term, next week, but an offer of a refund on the last month would have ben apreciated. After all, the land has been un-useable for that time.
Just goes to prove really that words mean nothing, money is all some landlords care about and once they have that everything else is lip service.
Hopefully the next landlord will not be as short sighted.
Shipper
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Zoha Boa
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09-19-2009 06:03
a tip: pay tier on a weekly basis then you can move to another estate in case there are problems and/or the estate owner isn't doing his job.
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
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09-19-2009 07:03
From: Zoha Boa a tip: pay tier on a weekly basis then you can move to another estate in case there are problems and/or the estate owner isn't doing his job. Indeed, it is why I allow weekly payments, I have confidence that my service level is good enough to keep my tenants happy enough to keep coming back as long as they need land. offcourse there are always some that blame network glitches and bugs on me but they will soon discover that those problems are not limited to my sims. another tip for starting estate owners, wait a few months, estate rentals are not in high demand at the moment but raising, a number of small estates are suffering but those who where smart enough to build a reserve will servive and get out stronger and more service oriented.
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Czari Zenovka
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Join date: 3 May 2007
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09-19-2009 09:14
Off topic slightly, but I was in the market for a security orb recently. The one my partner had in the past was excellent but I recall him having to tinker with it a bit when setting it up and once had to re-tinker with it when it was inadvertently set slightly over neighboring boundaries.
Several people recommended Thomas Conover's security orb. I purchased it and am ecstatic both with the ease of operation in set-up and the quick response I received from Mr. Conover when I sent a question his way. It also has several features that I don't think were on the only other orb with which I was familiar AND it is about half the price.
I can only think his other products are equally well-designed and supported!
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Lance Corrimal
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sim performance hud
09-19-2009 10:25
... i doubt there is a single performance statistic in any lsl-based sim meter that you cannot get by simply pressing ctrl-shift-1 ("View statistics"  .
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Ciaran Laval
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09-19-2009 10:31
From: Lance Corrimal ... i doubt there is a single performance statistic in any lsl-based sim meter that you cannot get by simply pressing ctrl-shift-1 ("View statistics"  . Sure but it's understanding the stats that's the important part. I'm not sure what this hud does mind you.
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Treasure Ballinger
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09-19-2009 11:21
From: Ciaran Laval Sure but it's understanding the stats that's the important part. I'm not sure what this hud does mind you. For those of us who are technologically challenged, reading the statistics bar is like trying to decipher another language. (well it IS another language). The hud tells me that 'my' sim is 'Awesome' (as good as it gets) and that perhaps I go somewhere and find that place 'Bad!' (the worse it gets). There are several levels between 'Awesome' and 'Bad'. Such as Good, Average and Low'. There are also numbers showing with these ratings, and actually you can kiind of tell yourself, just by your own avatar performance there (can you walk, are you rubber banding, etc) how it's running. But it's nice to have those ratings showing in words I can understand without trying to decipher the stat numbers. The hud also does something else I haven't tried yet, it marks off parcel lines in some way. I think that is in the sky, when you can't see parcel lines on the ground. That would be very helpful, as I have several residents whose sky builds are right smack on their parcel lines, where their parcels connect with public parcels. I think it's because they can't tell the parcel lines, while in the sky and so are guessing.
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Shipper Sodwind
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Join date: 25 Nov 2006
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09-19-2009 13:13
From: Abigail Merlin Indeed, it is why I allow weekly payments, I have confidence that my service level is good enough to keep my tenants happy enough to keep coming back as long as they need land. I may pay you a visit. As for Thomas Conover, I have on many occasions spoken to the man about various issues and idea's. Always helpful, always understanding and always makes time for his Customers, what more can you ask, I think he deserves an award for his work in SL over the years. Shipper
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Oscar Wylder
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Join date: 10 Mar 2009
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09-19-2009 13:47
From: Shipper Sodwind So, here’s the situation. You rent land and all of a sudden one day the must have Thomas Conover border and sim monitor reports as Low. - snip - I feel I must ask . Does your SL experience reflect the results shown on the meter ? . Your post does'nt mentiom any woes in your SL time. Maybe detach the HUD and stop watching the numbers. Regards.
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Blaze Nielsen
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is this thread a commercial?
09-19-2009 15:22
Sounds awfully like a pitch for Thomas Conover stuff.
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