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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
02-17-2009 12:05
Rather than add to the list of necroposts, I decided to post here.

As many know, I have a soft spot for history, and the Linden builds are often the only thing that passes for permanent structures inworld. Some months ago -- spurred on by the severe damage of the saloon in Oak Grove -- I began to look at some of these builds and try to get them fixed.

I JIRAed what I found, sometimes also putting in a support ticket depending on severity and location (a trolly running wild in the midst of a newbie rezzing area? Ya, that deserves a ticket).

In the wake of the Linden heart hunt, I did another review of Linden builds, and saw what if anything had been done to repair them. Here's my findings. This is a big, big tl;dr post.

Oak Grove Saloon
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1073
This remains damaged. I've also noticed troubles with the content at the Theater and Sheriff's office, and mild prim drift in just about all the buildings in Wild West Town. The land office still has notecards from 2003 or so about the "Resident Work Project" that was Wild West Town Parcel description lists this as the Murray Infohub (which the Murray sim might disagree with) and the "pushing up" of the land for Busy Bens (itself a legacy build from late 2003) blocks the entrance to town. My suspicion is that this will be eventually demolished rather than repaired, as much of the missing content is likely lost to the digital sands of time.

Morris Archery Range
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1074
This remains disabled due to proximity to the infohub. A Linden removed the legacy sign for the site, presumably as a temporary solution. I was able to save this sign via the beta grid copy before yesterday's refresh. My suggestion would be to move and the range to Rizal.

The Great Wall
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1081
Still stops at Athetis. This will be worked on as a mole project sometime in the future. No ETA.

Aside: Moles are not fully equipped for maintenance of builds. They can build new stuff, but legacy stuff typically requires the hand of a Linden to repair. As such, moles can build huge projects like the Blake Sea or the cities with a lot more ease than they can fix even simple legacy content. Anyways...

Ambleside balloon tour
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1097
A new balloon has replaced the old one, and tours have restarted. There is no spiel though. Prob'ly too hard to maintain. That and really, this is about as small potatoes as the fixes get!

Mount G'al
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1139
Still not lethal. The newish mole volcano in Ichelus is lethal, or at least damage inducing. Certainly G'al can be fixed!

Vehicle sims
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1140
Still heavily damaged. This will require major work -- or possibly scrapping and redoing. Shame its in such bad shape, as it would be a great spot for a lot of things. Then again, it would also be a great spot for a small Linden airstrip, boat launch, and so on for people to test their vehicles from.

Wengen Infohub and chairlift
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1141
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1142
Infohub is largely fixed, and the chairlift is fixed and operating better than ever.

Iris Infohub
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1143
Moth lamps are still missing

De Haro Archery Range
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1279
Largely fixed, in part due to a resident hosting the aforementioned missing Archery signage.

Waterhead Infohub
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1353
Resident Advertising and Linden Freebies were simply removed from this location, rather than repaired. :confused:

Yamato/Shangri La
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1609
Wall and floor was fixed after roughly four years. There are some other issues with the build I will have to write about. I hope this won't talk to 2013.

Jessie Wall
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1911
About half the wall is just "gone." No idea on a fix, though I do have a copy of the wall in my inventory that might fill in at least some of the missing pieces.

Luna to Dore Trolley
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1836
Remains down, and will likely be looked at late in the rebuilding of the SLRR, currently underway. Luna to Dore is a bit more complex than the SLRR, even thought hey came form the same Linden initially. I suspect this will have to be scrapped and rebuilt from scratch. :-/

Shermerville Park and lamps
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-2245
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-2306
Park area will likely have to be all-but-gutted and rebuilt, as much of that content is badly damaged and simply not working (a couple victims of Havok 4, for example). Cities lamps feature missing textures.

Luna Oaks Galleria
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1893
some of the buildings have simply gone missing. A quick fix, but still wonky.

I'm not even going to start on the Bay City stuff, which is largely minor and subject to change due to work being done with the Alliance right now. Some of that has been fixed and was, to be honest, a bit nit picky. Still cant ride the darn swings, though.

You're still reading this? Maaan, it was boring for me to write!

Anyway, it looks like there has been some movement on some of these, while others are badly damaged. Now I should leave with a question or two.

Am I missing any Linden-sponsored inworld builds you know have issues (not the server, viewer, etc.)?

Is this jes so totally nuts to even worry about this sort of, or is it important that these builds be repaired?
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Argent Stonecutter
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Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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02-17-2009 12:26
From: Marianne McCann
Mount G'al
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1139
Still not lethal. The newish mole volcano in Ichelus is lethal, or at least damage inducing. Certainly G'al can be fixed!

Is Ichelus still just damage-enabled or does it actually do scripted damage now and I can close http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1841? I can't get in world to check.
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 4,103
02-17-2009 13:16
TY for writing this up, Marianne!

/me wonders if the official wiki would be a better place to track this kind of info. (not that I'd suggest you retype it all again!)
NCI Golem
Registered User
Join date: 19 Oct 2005
Posts: 8
02-17-2009 13:21
I'd like to add one other problems to your exhaustive list.

Both the Mahulu and Periwinkle InfoHubs are missing the scripted prim that generates the blue "i" on the map.
Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
02-17-2009 13:36
From: Argent Stonecutter
Is Ichelus still just damage-enabled or does it actually do scripted damage now and I can close http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1841? I can't get in world to check.


[13:28] You died and have been teleported to your home location

It is both damage enabled, and the lava does cause damage. That said (after a quick stop over), you have to *really* want to kill yourself, hovering in the lava itself, maybe even moving a bit within it. Going lower than this in the cone will not do any damage.

Does it seem weird to want something like this to work? No?

From: Sindy Tsure
TY for writing this up, Marianne!

/me wonders if the official wiki would be a better place to track this kind of info. (not that I'd suggest you retype it all again!)


Yes welcome, an a good question. Might be something to bring up at the Documentation team office hours tomorrow.

From: NCI Golem
I'd like to add one other problems to your exhaustive list.

Both the Mahulu and Periwinkle InfoHubs are missing the scripted prim that generates the blue "i" on the map.


Hmn! I wonder if there are others. I know new folks new users show up in Luna, but no "I" is on the map there either.
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Dakota Tebaldi
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Join date: 6 Feb 2008
Posts: 1,873
02-17-2009 15:57
From: Marianne McCann

Waterhead Infohub
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-1353
Resident Advertising and Linden Freebies were simply removed from this location, rather than repaired. :confused:


I reckon LL has just plain given up on the Waterhead Infohub. When I heard a rumor that one of the candy boxes had actually been placed there, I couldn't help but wonder what the regs did with the unlucky Linden's body.
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Dante Tucker
Purple
Join date: 8 Aug 2006
Posts: 806
02-17-2009 16:05
From: Sindy Tsure
TY for writing this up, Marianne!

/me wonders if the official wiki would be a better place to track this kind of info. (not that I'd suggest you retype it all again!)


If this is simply copy/pasted to an appropriate spot on the wiki along with a note that it should be formatted and restructured then someone, maybe me, will get around to it.
Kokoro Fasching
Pixie Dust and Sugar
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 949
02-17-2009 18:03
From: Dante Tucker
If this is simply copy/pasted to an appropriate spot on the wiki along with a note that it should be formatted and restructured then someone, maybe me, will get around to it.


Posted to https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Damaged/Non_Working_Linden_Content_Locations

Also, can anyone furnish a listing of SLURLs to all Linden Content locations, and I can post that to the proper page also.

I have made a Portal page for the Linden Content pages.
Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
02-18-2009 01:07
From: Kokoro Fasching
Posted to https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Damaged/Non_Working_Linden_Content_Locations

Also, can anyone furnish a listing of SLURLs to all Linden Content locations, and I can post that to the proper page also.

I have made a Portal page for the Linden Content pages.


I can work on such a list tomorrow. Now is bedtime :-)
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"If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world :)" - Prospero Linden
Lear Cale
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Join date: 22 Aug 2007
Posts: 3,569
02-18-2009 11:47
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Cristalle Karami
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Join date: 4 Dec 2006
Posts: 6,222
02-18-2009 12:23
Thanks for this, Mari. I'd also alert Michael Linden to its existence, and any moles that you know.
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