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Salvador Nakamura

http://www.sl-index.com

Join date: 16 Jan 2007

Posts: 557

03-12-2008 18:16

anyone else notice, if you are member of 25 groups the concierge party takes a 26th "slot"

Toxic Menges

Time Lady

Join date: 4 Jul 2007

Posts: 206

03-12-2008 18:24

Ohh I didn't notice that .. I dropped a group to make sure I had room .. on another note ... did anyone look to see how many people are in that group ... do the maths .. thats a LOT of money every month coming in....

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Dekka Raymaker

thinking very hard

Join date: 4 Feb 2007

Posts: 3,898

03-12-2008 18:25

From: Toxic Menges

Ohh I didn't notice that .. I dropped a group to make sure I had room .. on another note ... did anyone look to see how many people are in that group ... do the maths .. thats a LOT of money every month coming in....

But don't you get to share the Lindens Funds too?

Toxic Menges

Time Lady

Join date: 4 Jul 2007

Posts: 206

03-12-2008 18:36

I wish they would share

/me holds hands out expectantly

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Marianne McCann

Feted Inner Child

Join date: 23 Feb 2006

Posts: 7,145

03-12-2008 18:54

Really? Huh...

/me is waiting for her invite

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

03-12-2008 19:01

Hmm, the announcement said that concierge level folks would get added to the group if they had less than 25 groups. And I misread it and made a post about it.

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Zuando Back

Registered User

Join date: 12 Mar 2008

Posts: 1

private island owners, is it possible more than one?

03-13-2008 00:04

Hi i am not sure this is the right place but can anyone tell me if it is possible for more than one person to own a private island?

Daniel Regenbogen

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Join date: 9 Nov 2006

Posts: 684

03-13-2008 00:47

From: Zuando Back

Hi i am not sure this is the right place but can anyone tell me if it is possible for more than one person to own a private island?

It would have been the right place if you had oepened your own Thread with that question.

And no, in the eyes of LL only one person can be the owner of a private island.

Ryou Yiyuan

Registered User

Join date: 8 Mar 2007

Posts: 48

03-13-2008 01:58

If Concierge Party Group will take place for a 26th group that will mean is it possible in future to up group limitation ?

Stephen Zenith

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Join date: 15 May 2006

Posts: 1,029

03-13-2008 02:08

I'm assuming the only place that checks is when you try and join a group - if LL add the group directly into their databases, that will bypass the check.

I believe the only reason they don't want to extend it is because every time you enter a parcel, it has to check if you're in the right group to enter, build, run scripts etc. If you increase the number of groups, you exponentially increase the number of checks it has to do. Also, group messaging will probably fall over completely if they are increased.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

03-13-2008 06:23

From: Stephen Zenith

every time you enter a parcel, it has to check if you're in the right group to enter, build, run scripts etc.

We need a collective entity that doesn't do things like that, maybe for and only for messaging. Maybe call it a channel.

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Stephen Zenith

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Join date: 15 May 2006

Posts: 1,029

03-13-2008 06:31

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

We need a collective entity that doesn't do things like that, maybe for and only for messaging. Maybe call it a channel.

That's really going to get into the differences behind the purpose of a lot of groups. In many cases, their sole raison d'etre is to allow several people to build on a plot with autoreturn enabled, and maybe set home there.

Sometimes it's to restrict / allow access to parcels.

In other cases, it's to allow group chat, in others it's for notifications like product updates. And of course, sometimes it's for some but not all of these reasons.

Forcing all of them to use the same "group" mechanism is very convenient for the user, but it does lie at the heart of several issues with SL at the moment. On the other hand, let's not forget that the reason for this thread is actually because of a group that will be used for access restrictions, not for group chat.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

03-13-2008 14:10

From: Stephen Zenith

access restrictions

i.e. - keep we riff-raff out

us hoi polloi

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Jacksonn Munro

Lies on surveys

Join date: 6 Feb 2008

Posts: 110

03-13-2008 14:16

From: Marianne McCann

Really? Huh...

/me is waiting for her invite

Just curious Mari, did you receive your invite yet? My partner hasn’t as of yet, the support ticket has not been addressed. Wasn’t sure if this was the norm

Meade Paravane

Hedgehog

Join date: 21 Nov 2006

Posts: 4,845

03-13-2008 14:26

From: Stephen Zenith

I believe the only reason they don't want to extend it is because every time you enter a parcel, it has to check if you're in the right group to enter, build, run scripts etc. If you increase the number of groups, you exponentially increase the number of checks it has to do.

Not to derail this thread too far but why would it exponentially increase the number of checks?

I don't think we know what info the sim has on avatars but if it knows what groups each avatar is in (vs having to ask the asset server each time) then it should be a linear increase in work for the sim to do this check - going to 26 groups doesn't mean 25 times more work, it should be an extra 1/25th of the work it's already doing.

And, if the sim doesn't have this info on hand and has to ask the asset server, why wouldn't it be a semi-simple 'is this user in that group' query?

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Gordon Wendt

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03-13-2008 14:26

As mentioned above they probably just did a manual add so if you leave it or any other groups or try to join a group it will perform the check and you won't be able to join.

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26 Groups, please let us keep it :)
Salvador Nakamura http://www.sl-index.com Join date: 16 Jan 2007 Posts: 557	03-12-2008 18:16 anyone else notice, if you are member of 25 groups the concierge party takes a 26th "slot"
Toxic Menges Time Lady Join date: 4 Jul 2007 Posts: 206	03-12-2008 18:24 Ohh I didn't notice that .. I dropped a group to make sure I had room .. on another note ... did anyone look to see how many people are in that group ... do the maths .. thats a LOT of money every month coming in.... _____________________ I'm bumping you to an 8.3. You obviously have a strong sense of self and you are very much in control of your sensual side. You're the kind of girl that guys are willing to beat each other senseless over, just hoping for a few moments of attention from you. Congratulations and shame on you. you are a slut in the very best possible meaning of the word! Trout Re-Certified
Dekka Raymaker thinking very hard Join date: 4 Feb 2007 Posts: 3,898	03-12-2008 18:25 From: Toxic Menges Ohh I didn't notice that .. I dropped a group to make sure I had room .. on another note ... did anyone look to see how many people are in that group ... do the maths .. thats a LOT of money every month coming in.... But don't you get to share the Lindens Funds too?
Toxic Menges Time Lady Join date: 4 Jul 2007 Posts: 206	03-12-2008 18:36 I wish they would share /me holds hands out expectantly _____________________ I'm bumping you to an 8.3. You obviously have a strong sense of self and you are very much in control of your sensual side. You're the kind of girl that guys are willing to beat each other senseless over, just hoping for a few moments of attention from you. Congratulations and shame on you. you are a slut in the very best possible meaning of the word! Trout Re-Certified
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	03-12-2008 18:54 Really? Huh... /me is waiting for her invite _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-12-2008 19:01 Hmm, the announcement said that concierge level folks would get added to the group if they had less than 25 groups. And I misread it and made a post about it. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Zuando Back Registered User Join date: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 1	private island owners, is it possible more than one? 03-13-2008 00:04 Hi i am not sure this is the right place but can anyone tell me if it is possible for more than one person to own a private island?
Daniel Regenbogen Registered User Join date: 9 Nov 2006 Posts: 684	03-13-2008 00:47 From: Zuando Back Hi i am not sure this is the right place but can anyone tell me if it is possible for more than one person to own a private island? It would have been the right place if you had oepened your own Thread with that question. And no, in the eyes of LL only one person can be the owner of a private island.
Ryou Yiyuan Registered User Join date: 8 Mar 2007 Posts: 48	03-13-2008 01:58 If Concierge Party Group will take place for a 26th group that will mean is it possible in future to up group limitation ?
Stephen Zenith Registered User Join date: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1,029	03-13-2008 02:08 I'm assuming the only place that checks is when you try and join a group - if LL add the group directly into their databases, that will bypass the check. I believe the only reason they don't want to extend it is because every time you enter a parcel, it has to check if you're in the right group to enter, build, run scripts etc. If you increase the number of groups, you exponentially increase the number of checks it has to do. Also, group messaging will probably fall over completely if they are increased. _____________________
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-13-2008 06:23 From: Stephen Zenith every time you enter a parcel, it has to check if you're in the right group to enter, build, run scripts etc. We need a collective entity that doesn't do things like that, maybe for and only for messaging. Maybe call it a channel. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Stephen Zenith Registered User Join date: 15 May 2006 Posts: 1,029	03-13-2008 06:31 From: SuezanneC Baskerville We need a collective entity that doesn't do things like that, maybe for and only for messaging. Maybe call it a channel. That's really going to get into the differences behind the purpose of a lot of groups. In many cases, their sole raison d'etre is to allow several people to build on a plot with autoreturn enabled, and maybe set home there. Sometimes it's to restrict / allow access to parcels. In other cases, it's to allow group chat, in others it's for notifications like product updates. And of course, sometimes it's for some but not all of these reasons. Forcing all of them to use the same "group" mechanism is very convenient for the user, but it does lie at the heart of several issues with SL at the moment. On the other hand, let's not forget that the reason for this thread is actually because of a group that will be used for access restrictions, not for group chat. _____________________
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-13-2008 14:10 From: Stephen Zenith access restrictions i.e. - keep we riff-raff out us hoi polloi _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Jacksonn Munro Lies on surveys Join date: 6 Feb 2008 Posts: 110	03-13-2008 14:16 From: Marianne McCann Really? Huh... /me is waiting for her invite Just curious Mari, did you receive your invite yet? My partner hasn’t as of yet, the support ticket has not been addressed. Wasn’t sure if this was the norm
Meade Paravane Hedgehog Join date: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4,845	03-13-2008 14:26 From: Stephen Zenith I believe the only reason they don't want to extend it is because every time you enter a parcel, it has to check if you're in the right group to enter, build, run scripts etc. If you increase the number of groups, you exponentially increase the number of checks it has to do. Not to derail this thread too far but why would it exponentially increase the number of checks? I don't think we know what info the sim has on avatars but if it knows what groups each avatar is in (vs having to ask the asset server each time) then it should be a linear increase in work for the sim to do this check - going to 26 groups doesn't mean 25 times more work, it should be an extra 1/25th of the work it's already doing. And, if the sim doesn't have this info on hand and has to ask the asset server, why wouldn't it be a semi-simple 'is this user in that group' query? _____________________ Tired of shouting clubs and lucky chairs? Vote for llParcelSay!!! - Go here: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1224 - If you see "if you were logged in.." on the left, click it and log in - Click the "Vote for it" link on the left
Gordon Wendt 404 - User not found Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1,024	03-13-2008 14:26 As mentioned above they probably just did a manual add so if you leave it or any other groups or try to join a group it will perform the check and you won't be able to join. _____________________ Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/GWendt Plurk: http://www.plurk.com/GordonWendt GW Designs: XStreetSL

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