Would a gift of $10-20,000L trigger anti-fraud controls?

My brother and I are thinking of buying more land but since my tier is currently higher than his, we decided that I would give him the up-front cash and he would then buy the land and take on the additional tier (which he would then donate to our family group).

I am wondering - would a gift of ten thousand to twenty thousand Lindens between avatars (followed by a land purchase by the recipient) trigger any of LL's anti-fraud controls or create any other problems for my avatar or my brother's?

I can just send my brother a check if the transfer is going to cause problems, but it would much easier just to buy the Lindens with my credit card and transfer them to his avatar. Any thoughts?

one never knows till one tries

I would send him the money let him buy the land
and IF it triggers the anti theft thing, deal with it when and if that happens


no clue if or if it would not trigger it

My partner and i transfer similar and larger sums between each other for exactly the same reason. Its not caused us any problem yet.

I think it's a set of variables, not just one. It might if your brother has a brand new alt, is not payment verified and has no history of receiving large gifts...or it might not.

When I triggered it, it was multiple gifts to a brand new, non-verified alt of WAY more than that by multiple people over the span of a week. I could kind of see how the issue could have come up, and I was able to solve the problem with a phone call and some tickets. I would guess that you are probably ok with gift int 20kL to your brother, but I wouldn't guarantee it.

My partner and I have transfered amounts up to 5 or 6,000 L with no problems.

Yeah, giving someone L$20,000 so they can purchase land is a pretty normal thing. Bear in mind that L$20,000 is only $74 USD. I would assume that fraud protection is more for like multiple thousands USD going to a new unverified account.

My partner and I transfer very large sums of money, $L40,000+, and have never gotten in any kind of issue.

It's the repeated transferring of funds that triggers the anti-fraud, not the sum, I believe. For example, five people paying you $1000 each in the span of an hour.

I have transferred single payments of large amounts of all sizes and never had an issue.

A friend of mine (SIM owner) uses an alt to collect the monthly rents (and only for that), and once both the alt and the renter were suspended for a transfer of roughly 30,000 L$ (both acounts were released again within 24 hours). I on the other hand never had such problems with money transfers in the same range. Nowadays I do much higher transfers (tiers for complete SIMs) - but to be on the safe side we don't use the pay function but we "sell" prims to each other. That way the system doesn't see the transactions as "gift" but as "sale". Not sure if it is because of this strategy, but even my largest transfer of some 160,000 L$ didn't cause any problems.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. It sounds like we'll be pretty safe with the transaction the way we've structured it, so I think we'll give it a shot.

Daniel, by selling prims do you mean just rezzing a box and setting it for sale for $160,000L ? That's clever.

Exactly that. Named it something like "tier for 2 SIMs" to add more safety, lol.

I've done bigger transfers than L$20k before and haven't had a problem.

I think it's more than just the transaction size, though. They probably also look at how long you've been in SL (longer = safer) and how many transactions you're doing (fewer = safer) and maybe other things as well.

If you're really worried about it and are premium/conceirge, I'd do up a live chat thru the support page and ask a Linden or call billing and see if you can pre-verify that the transaction is kosher.

I paid my architect $18,000 without any problems, although it was in two parts (upfront deposit and completion payment), and I've given friends who've joined but aren't comfortable about giving CC information to LL yet the odd few thousand without ever raising an alert.

A RL friend of mine owns a whole sim, and has an informal arrangement with two guys who run a shop there for rental. They just "drop" the money on him when they see him, and I think that's a reasonably large sum, too.

Yeah, I pay almost 13k every month directly to the landlord of my home lots, never a problem.

Madhu - If you are buying together in a group, you do have the option to purchase for group. Perhaps you should consider doing the financials to see what the potential savings might be putting your dough and land together.

I just transferred 75000 and had no issues.

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