Zindra waterfront

I have scanned up and down the coast and I can't find any 50/50 land/water properties or even close. Best I can get is one near water and then LL owns the last meter or so before the water. LL basicly says pick one of those and request to have the land resculpted. Anyone else noticing this.

Also yes I know about double prim land reserve but this happens on all LL water. You can't own any at all, period it seems. Large step back from having entire sims of buyable water/land property like where I live now.

There isn't any land/water mix in any parcel available or to be parcelled in Zindra.
Actually, there isn't any water available to us peasants.
Where did you see a Linden talk about taking a parcel and requesting to have the land resculpted?
The question has been raised in the Zindra blog, but so far the silence from LL is deafening.

After looking I found one sim it's the bottom one on the mainland. Not sure if it is available or not but it's there.

I did live chat with a linden last night, two actually, over this cause it was a large concern for me. Issue I have is there is no gaurentee they will resculpt it or any talk of resculpting. It seems to be a request and then get it and then see. Which I don't like at all.

I just went to have a look at Zindra parcels and found the same thing, Krazzora. They've gone so far to protect waterways that no water is available. In that way it is the same as Nautilus and, I believe, Bay City. All parcels are land-locked, and even if you have a view of the water there is a strip of protected land between it and your parcel, so docks, beaches, and boat launches on private land are really out of the question, nevermind underwater builds. Where are the mer people supposed to get it on?!

I think this is a mistake. Buying beach front property only to have water parcels in front of it sold and houses set on top of the water and blocked waterways have long been a sore spot on the mainland, but this approach goes too far the other way.

On another note, does anyone else find the shape of many of the parcels to be pretty bad design? Given a blank slate to work with, why make an asymetrical 512 on a hillside, for example? Or, one parcel with a notch cut out protruding into another parcel? (See the double prim island off the west coast, or the area around the bay on the north side for these examples.) I understand how parcels like this happen in the cut/join/recut tumult of regular mainland, but who sets things out this way on virgin land? I'd be interested to hear from ANY private estate owner who would set up sims like that.

I thought LL/the moles improved upon their parcel cutting in Nautilus compared to Bay City. That model was too rigid (all square 1024's) for Zindra, but what I saw looks like a total mess. Maybe I just like straight lines too much.

That sim is probably an oversight on their part. The sim beside it has the usual empty sterile strip of Linden land between the 'unparcelled' section of the sim and the water.

I just bumped into Michael Linden.
They are cutting some land/water parcels along the coast now.

Once they've done that, I'll start bitching about how the water is too shallow

Yay! at the first part, though the second part is fine too.

I'm hoping that a lot of the parceling is just a rough starting point. Seems like it will have to change a fair bit through the land swap process.

Sling can you send me info on where you are seeing this? I can deal with shallow water cause I can move land up and down which is what I did for my place. Granted my place is very jacked up looking but it gets the job done.

The impression I got is NO it will NOT change and you have to submit a request in your transfer ticket to have LL shape thier land to work with yours. This was according to concierge support last night.

The new parcels start in Broadwater sim at the NW corner of the landmass and are beginning to spread southwards.
Down as far as Novarez so far I think.

Look for parcels marked "Special Coastal" and a number, that are Linden Maintenance land so far. Some just have a little water, while others are mostly water, suitable for sticking a long pier out into the sea.

Apart from the "Special Coastal", there are "Coastal Specials"

But.. he was a small mole smoking a big cigarette. Some vagueness is only to be expected in the circumstances!

I really wish LL would just split the parcels up into SQUARE 512 chunks or something so we could say plots a-b. These thngs are lopy.

But you gotta wonder are we able to request these chuncks of land? I mean I was told no new land would be made available so it makes ya wonder.

it would be nice to walk the beach instead of getting blocked off from builds or banlines and things like that..

Actually I used my beach just for that. Just naughty stuff in it for all to enjoy, swim in no prim water, etc. I just doubt LL dispite the water being Adult land would want naked swimmers in thier water ways. Also the strip of land I am talking about regardless is not very big. It's like a demilitarized zone for hampsters.

Yeah, I agree, some of this is very nice, and I think protected land for everyone to enjoy adds value to all the land around it. The bummer is when that is the only option. If they are adding some parcels that extend into the water a bit, then I think the combination is a good solution.

And also many of us are moving from current LL land set this way. It's kinda devaluing the land and making me want to just take my chances on mainland or close off my beach for personal use. I'm for public access areas but also some private. It's Zero private access to water.

BTW I'm more concerned about the coastal side where there are entire 1/2 sims or more of water. I totally understand ban lines in the tiny water ways where it's possible to just ban/block people from using them.

That directly contradicts something a Linden (Jack, I think) said earlier...to the effect that if more adult land is needed, it would be created.

I guess what they really mean is that no, more land won't be available until we've made all we can from this round and everyone is screaming bloody murder at the land scalpers' prices. Then we'll make more and crash land values again.

What, you don't LIKE roller coasters?

If you see the rather abrupt ending of the land at the south and east sides, it's rather obvious that the place has been designed with growth in mind. The sims in place probably take less than a quarter of the potential they have planned for it. That big sea on the west side may eventually be nothing but a huge lake.

When they made this land they sculpted it with the idea of more SIMS later for more people but for what is out there and parcelled I was told there would be no change. I for one would hate to buy land now and find that protected land no longer protected but again they are over protecting and have nothing like what they offer now for mature or PG.

I'm betting they will do this cuse it is PRIME land (my mature land goes for 15K a 512 plot and down to 10-8K at the far end) just due to location. Care to guess who will get cracks at that...anyone.

BTW my prices and info on Zindra might off I didn't log in last night. I have not enough time to or energy to follow this daily anymore. It's been a year and i'm tired of it.

What's funny is they said the same thing about bay city before they opened it, about how it was going to continue to grow, adding more sims etc. etc.

Haven't quite seen that have you?

True but there are two huge differences

A) I think Not all of Z will be forced into theme just that "city" area.

B) This is just for the qualifying shops/clubs right now. Eventually others will want to move here just for the safety net.