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Dinohunden Paine

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07-24-2008 19:10

Hi all.....

I just want to make a pleed for you all.....

SL's floating with freebies, fair enough, and gr8 for the newbies, BUT bloody anoying for those who just want a little for their great effort.

I do ask you to try to make kust a tiny little thing........

In your profile, just add in the end "SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATOR" Hells Angel might be pissed about it, but I think that's aboul all

Now you all have some gr8 time in SL

VISIT DENMARK COPENHAGEN!

Zaphod Kotobide

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Join date: 19 Oct 2006

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07-24-2008 19:21

Without intending to be condescending, I don't think it's difficult to produce better products than most of the freebies out there. Perhaps instead of asking us to give you a nod in our profiles, you put even more effort into your product and marketing. If you're having a problem competing with freebies, you need to raise the bar for yourself. I hate to be so blunt but you won't be successful otherwise.

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Rhaorth Antonelli

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07-24-2008 19:25

I do not see how
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATOR"
is promoting anyone specific

however I do see how this post and thread was a blatant effort at advertising LOL
note the last sentence on the post...

ah well, I am not complaining, just commenting

(If I were going to put SUPPORT anyone in my profile it would be SUPPORT ME)

*meh*

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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.

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Dinohunden Paine

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Join date: 4 Dec 2007

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07-24-2008 20:23

The ridiculous thing of it all is, that the only thing I DON'T have in my shops are mi own builds yet. I'm not promoting my self or anyone else, I was just simply pissed over the freebies, that's was floating in a group, and made this thread. I'm unfortunatly (?) way to busy to take care of my own shops, due to my work at Denmark, but also there we have some very gr8 creators, and every time we rebuild there, we try hard to support our local customers.... That's really all there's is to it.....

SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATOR! (just had to hehe)

Annabelle Babii

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07-24-2008 21:00

'ave you got any 'at 'asn't got spam innit?

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Dinohunden Paine

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07-24-2008 21:04

From: Annabelle Babii

'ave you got any 'at 'asn't got spam innit?

Do you have a language, that anyone can understand?

Melanie Dragonash

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07-24-2008 21:08

From: Zaphod Kotobide

Without intending to be condescending, I don't think it's difficult to produce better products than most of the freebies out there. Perhaps instead of asking us to give you a nod in our profiles, you put even more effort into your product and marketing. If you're having a problem competing with freebies, you need to raise the bar for yourself. I hate to be so blunt but you won't be successful otherwise.

My (admittedly limited) experience is that this is true. Most of my clothes are freebies, I admit. But that's just because I don't really care enough about clothes to warrant the expense. But when it comes to things like vehicles and buildings, as well as hair, freebies just don't cut it. Zaphod's right - in the areas I mention specifically, if you cannot compete with the freebies then maybe those industries are just not for you. I'm sorry to say that I just don't care enough about clothes to feel the need to support designers either.

Dinohunden Paine

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Join date: 4 Dec 2007

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07-24-2008 22:08

From: Melanie Dragonash

My (admittedly limited) experience is that this is true. Most of my clothes are freebies, I admit. But that's just because I don't really care enough about clothes to warrant the expense. But when it comes to things like vehicles and buildings, as well as hair, freebies just don't cut it. Zaphod's right - in the areas I mention specifically, if you cannot compete with the freebies then maybe those industries are just not for you. I'm sorry to say that I just don't care enough about clothes to feel the need to support designers either.

And that's fair... Lot of people can cope with the freebies clothes.... I actually have a small freebie shop (even got complaints LOL) But one of the things I was thinking of was, when you build, or just want something "THIS EXTRA" for your land, why don't you just look right at your head..... Whenever I make a sale, I really do look the person (it REALLY is a person, don't forget) and see if he/she has something to offer me, or when I build in Denmark, I do try to attend to support the tenants there....

Ann Launay

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07-24-2008 22:24

(It was this or a sandwich joke...)

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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Rhaorth Antonelli

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07-24-2008 22:37

any excuse to post a pic eh ann?

anywho yes, freebies.. there are a lot, some are stolen content that got released, others are true freebies, and some are awesome, others are crap

I make my own clothes, sell some stuff, some days better than others, I also shop, buy other designers clothing, and shoes and hair, etc

I also find nice freebies and use those too

so I don't think the freebies are hurting any of us... be we shoppers, or providers

(also a nice freebie I found has enabled me to start something I have wanted to do for awhile, and that is make tinies... (posted about it on my blog) they are soooo cute)

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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.

They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...

Ann Launay

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07-24-2008 22:39

From: Rhaorth Antonelli

any excuse to post a pic eh ann?

It's all Mac's fault. *nods solemnly*

/327/bd/272425/2.html#post2081810

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From: someone

I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Rhaorth Antonelli

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Posts: 7,425

07-24-2008 22:48

From: Ann Launay

It's all Mac's fault. *nods solemnly*

/327/bd/272425/2.html#post2081810/327/bd/272425/2.html#post2081810

waits for mac to defend himself (shhh don't tell him)

by the way, cute batman outfit (I think it is batman)
but for some reason your skin looks washed out no details like usual

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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.

They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...

Ann Launay

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Join date: 8 Aug 2006

Posts: 7,893

07-24-2008 22:54

From: Rhaorth Antonelli

waits for mac to defend himself (shhh don't tell him)

He already said he'd happily take the blame.

From: someone

by the way, cute batman outfit (I think it is batman)

It's not meant to be anyone specific...it's from Nicky Ree and comes in a bunch of colors.

From: someone

but for some reason your skin looks washed out no details like usual

Different skin, although it actually has very nice detailing...the shading may just be a bit subtler than my usual choice.

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From: someone

I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things.

Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Rhaorth Antonelli

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Posts: 7,425

07-24-2008 22:58

ah
still cute outfit
not the kind of stuff I make but cute

noticed your look was different

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Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar.

They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...

Amy Stork

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Join date: 26 Feb 2006

Posts: 646

07-25-2008 02:22

I never do freebies - with the exception of the chicken suit of course - mainly becasue I can't be bothered trawling through all the junkyards. I'm sure there is some great stuff out there though. All my stuff is either bought, given to me by the content creators or I have had custom made for me.

The concept of "Support your local content creator" is a bit daft really - anybody who buys something is by definition supporting *a* content creator be they local or not

Cortex Draper

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Posts: 406

07-25-2008 02:38

In most fields, freebies are generally much worse than products you can buy.

Freebie clothes however (for example all those flexi skirts from that business in a box fiasco where hundreds of non freebie items ended up as freebies) are very high quality so I can understand how it would be hard for someone to get started in the clothing business.

Ghosty Kips

Elora's Llama

Join date: 2 May 2008

Posts: 2,386

07-25-2008 03:43

From: Dinohunden Paine

The ridiculous thing of it all is, that the only thing I DON'T have in my shops are mi own builds yet.

So what you're really saying is "Support Your Local Retailer" then, isn't it?

Which is also ridiculous, because most of the people I know list shopping as a hobby. I've spent, gaaaa, thousands of linden in the couple of months I've been here. If you're not seeing any cash flow, then something else is the matter - it ain't us.

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Keira Wells

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Join date: 16 Mar 2008

Posts: 2,371

07-25-2008 04:29

From: Ghosty Kips

gaaaa, thousands of linden in the couple of months I've been here.it ain't us.

Be prepared to spend hundreds of thousands =P

In my year and a half... I think I've spent about 600,000 - 700,000 L$....

And once upon a time, I used to budget...what the hell happened to me!?

Blargh.

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Amy Stork

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07-25-2008 04:35

It's quite common for peeps to get the SL bug, start creating stuff, open a little shop somehwere and expect the customers to come flooding in...

Of course it usually takes a little more than that unless you have come up with the latest must have something or other. It's exactly the same as running a business in RL.

Personally I dont sell anything, but I do take pleasure in creating stuff and "arranging" objects that I have bought. Point is it's just for fun really. If you set out with the objective of making stuff to sell and turn a profit, spend hours on it and nobody seems interested or buys then you are on a rapid path to dissilusionment. If you set out with the objective of making stuff for yourself and for fun and others like and buy ity then great! If they dont then so what? At least you have something YOU like

Tinkerbell Tarantal

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Join date: 13 May 2008

Posts: 86

07-25-2008 04:44

I am a totally compulsive shopper, I live to spend my lindens on quality designer clothes skins and hair.
If its beautiful, I have to have it!
My first account with SL was a couple of years ago and i loved freebies,but now I am over them pretty much. Heaps easier to buy lindens and buy up on usually better quality stuff I think.
So i definitley, absolutely support designers!

Support your local hero!!!
Dinohunden Paine Registered User Join date: 4 Dec 2007 Posts: 47	07-24-2008 19:10 Hi all..... I just want to make a pleed for you all..... SL's floating with freebies, fair enough, and gr8 for the newbies, BUT bloody anoying for those who just want a little for their great effort. I do ask you to try to make kust a tiny little thing........ In your profile, just add in the end "SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATOR" Hells Angel might be pissed about it, but I think that's aboul all Now you all have some gr8 time in SL VISIT DENMARK COPENHAGEN!
Zaphod Kotobide zOMGWTFPME! Join date: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,087	07-24-2008 19:21 Without intending to be condescending, I don't think it's difficult to produce better products than most of the freebies out there. Perhaps instead of asking us to give you a nod in our profiles, you put even more effort into your product and marketing. If you're having a problem competing with freebies, you need to raise the bar for yourself. I hate to be so blunt but you won't be successful otherwise. _____________________ From: Albert Einstein Problems cannot be solved at the same level of awareness that created them.
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	07-24-2008 19:25 I do not see how SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATOR" is promoting anyone specific however I do see how this post and thread was a blatant effort at advertising LOL note the last sentence on the post... ah well, I am not complaining, just commenting (If I were going to put SUPPORT anyone in my profile it would be SUPPORT ME) meh _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Dinohunden Paine Registered User Join date: 4 Dec 2007 Posts: 47	07-24-2008 20:23 The ridiculous thing of it all is, that the only thing I DON'T have in my shops are mi own builds yet. I'm not promoting my self or anyone else, I was just simply pissed over the freebies, that's was floating in a group, and made this thread. I'm unfortunatly (?) way to busy to take care of my own shops, due to my work at Denmark, but also there we have some very gr8 creators, and every time we rebuild there, we try hard to support our local customers.... That's really all there's is to it..... SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL CREATOR! (just had to hehe)
Annabelle Babii Unholier than thou Join date: 2 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,797	07-24-2008 21:00 'ave you got any 'at 'asn't got spam innit? _____________________ Deep inside we're all the same - we're an amorphous fog clouod.
Dinohunden Paine Registered User Join date: 4 Dec 2007 Posts: 47	07-24-2008 21:04 From: Annabelle Babii 'ave you got any 'at 'asn't got spam innit? Do you have a language, that anyone can understand?
Melanie Dragonash Registered User Join date: 24 Jul 2008 Posts: 7	07-24-2008 21:08 From: Zaphod Kotobide Without intending to be condescending, I don't think it's difficult to produce better products than most of the freebies out there. Perhaps instead of asking us to give you a nod in our profiles, you put even more effort into your product and marketing. If you're having a problem competing with freebies, you need to raise the bar for yourself. I hate to be so blunt but you won't be successful otherwise. My (admittedly limited) experience is that this is true. Most of my clothes are freebies, I admit. But that's just because I don't really care enough about clothes to warrant the expense. But when it comes to things like vehicles and buildings, as well as hair, freebies just don't cut it. Zaphod's right - in the areas I mention specifically, if you cannot compete with the freebies then maybe those industries are just not for you. I'm sorry to say that I just don't care enough about clothes to feel the need to support designers either.
Dinohunden Paine Registered User Join date: 4 Dec 2007 Posts: 47	07-24-2008 22:08 From: Melanie Dragonash My (admittedly limited) experience is that this is true. Most of my clothes are freebies, I admit. But that's just because I don't really care enough about clothes to warrant the expense. But when it comes to things like vehicles and buildings, as well as hair, freebies just don't cut it. Zaphod's right - in the areas I mention specifically, if you cannot compete with the freebies then maybe those industries are just not for you. I'm sorry to say that I just don't care enough about clothes to feel the need to support designers either. And that's fair... Lot of people can cope with the freebies clothes.... I actually have a small freebie shop (even got complaints LOL) But one of the things I was thinking of was, when you build, or just want something "THIS EXTRA" for your land, why don't you just look right at your head..... Whenever I make a sale, I really do look the person (it REALLY is a person, don't forget) and see if he/she has something to offer me, or when I build in Denmark, I do try to attend to support the tenants there....
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-24-2008 22:24 (It was this or a sandwich joke...) _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	07-24-2008 22:37 any excuse to post a pic eh ann? anywho yes, freebies.. there are a lot, some are stolen content that got released, others are true freebies, and some are awesome, others are crap I make my own clothes, sell some stuff, some days better than others, I also shop, buy other designers clothing, and shoes and hair, etc I also find nice freebies and use those too so I don't think the freebies are hurting any of us... be we shoppers, or providers (also a nice freebie I found has enabled me to start something I have wanted to do for awhile, and that is make tinies... (posted about it on my blog) they are soooo cute) _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-24-2008 22:39 From: Rhaorth Antonelli any excuse to post a pic eh ann? It's all Mac's fault. nods solemnly /327/bd/272425/2.html#post2081810 _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	07-24-2008 22:48 From: Ann Launay It's all Mac's fault. nods solemnly /327/bd/272425/2.html#post2081810/327/bd/272425/2.html#post2081810 waits for mac to defend himself (shhh don't tell him) by the way, cute batman outfit (I think it is batman) but for some reason your skin looks washed out no details like usual _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-24-2008 22:54 From: Rhaorth Antonelli waits for mac to defend himself (shhh don't tell him) He already said he'd happily take the blame. From: someone by the way, cute batman outfit (I think it is batman) It's not meant to be anyone specific...it's from Nicky Ree and comes in a bunch of colors. From: someone but for some reason your skin looks washed out no details like usual Different skin, although it actually has very nice detailing...the shading may just be a bit subtler than my usual choice. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	07-24-2008 22:58 ah still cute outfit not the kind of stuff I make but cute noticed your look was different _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Amy Stork Way past use by date Join date: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 646	07-25-2008 02:22 I never do freebies - with the exception of the chicken suit of course - mainly becasue I can't be bothered trawling through all the junkyards. I'm sure there is some great stuff out there though. All my stuff is either bought, given to me by the content creators or I have had custom made for me. The concept of "Support your local content creator" is a bit daft really - anybody who buys something is by definition supporting a content creator be they local or not
Cortex Draper Registered User Join date: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 406	07-25-2008 02:38 In most fields, freebies are generally much worse than products you can buy. Freebie clothes however (for example all those flexi skirts from that business in a box fiasco where hundreds of non freebie items ended up as freebies) are very high quality so I can understand how it would be hard for someone to get started in the clothing business.
Ghosty Kips Elora's Llama Join date: 2 May 2008 Posts: 2,386	07-25-2008 03:43 From: Dinohunden Paine The ridiculous thing of it all is, that the only thing I DON'T have in my shops are mi own builds yet. So what you're really saying is "Support Your Local Retailer" then, isn't it? Which is also ridiculous, because most of the people I know list shopping as a hobby. I've spent, gaaaa, thousands of linden in the couple of months I've been here. If you're not seeing any cash flow, then something else is the matter - it ain't us. _____________________ -- Why aren't you doing something more useful, like playing WoW?
Keira Wells Blender Sculptor Join date: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 2,371	07-25-2008 04:29 From: Ghosty Kips gaaaa, thousands of linden in the couple of months I've been here.it ain't us. Be prepared to spend hundreds of thousands =P In my year and a half... I think I've spent about 600,000 - 700,000 L$.... And once upon a time, I used to budget...what the hell happened to me!? Blargh. _____________________ Tutorials for Sculpties using Blender! Http://www.youtube.com/user/BlenderSL
Amy Stork Way past use by date Join date: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 646	07-25-2008 04:35 It's quite common for peeps to get the SL bug, start creating stuff, open a little shop somehwere and expect the customers to come flooding in... Of course it usually takes a little more than that unless you have come up with the latest must have something or other. It's exactly the same as running a business in RL. Personally I dont sell anything, but I do take pleasure in creating stuff and "arranging" objects that I have bought. Point is it's just for fun really. If you set out with the objective of making stuff to sell and turn a profit, spend hours on it and nobody seems interested or buys then you are on a rapid path to dissilusionment. If you set out with the objective of making stuff for yourself and for fun and others like and buy ity then great! If they dont then so what? At least you have something YOU like
Tinkerbell Tarantal Departed Join date: 13 May 2008 Posts: 86	07-25-2008 04:44 I am a totally compulsive shopper, I live to spend my lindens on quality designer clothes skins and hair. If its beautiful, I have to have it! My first account with SL was a couple of years ago and i loved freebies,but now I am over them pretty much. Heaps easier to buy lindens and buy up on usually better quality stuff I think. So i definitley, absolutely support designers!

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