Dancer Tip - Rquest Info

I am thinking about being a dancer in SL. I have visited clubs and am trying to find out what makes a succesful dancer. I would like input from both male and female club goers, I am sure it would be helpful to more them just myself.
What makes you go to a particular club? Why do you tip dancers and other staff?
What attracts you to a dancer?

For emoting - do you prefer the dancer to respond in 1st person or 3rd person:
1st person: Thank you for that tip, I really am grateful
3rd person: Thank you for that tip, "dancername" is really grateful

Thanks to all who respond.

First person, always. Speak for yourself, don't let your tip jar be your mouthpiece.

Learn chat emotes... the "/me" trick.

You may want to assemble a list of phrases you commonly use, so you don't have to type, "/me smiles at you, slowly reaches behind herself and unfastens her bra. She twirls it and tosses it into your lap." over and over and over...

Use the stock phrases, but really chat and banter with your customers too. After all, anyone can sit on a pole and let the animations run. You're selling your ability to tease and titillate in text.

I'm not a dancer, nor do I go to those kind of clubs, but I'll throw in my $L2...

The biggest thing people want, I think is to be noticed, responded to, engaged with. The animation isn't enough, and canned gestures get old after a while.

Actually, neither of your responses below is emoting. Both are chat. (And of the two, I'd prefer the first, personally. I know some subs like to refer to themselves in the third person, but I don't care for it.)

For an emote, you would type something like:

/me pockets the tip and winks at you.

Which would turn out in chat like:

Brit Destiny pockets the tip and winks at you.

Since there aren't animations/poseballs for every possible action you might want to perform, emotes like those help liven up and personalize your interactions.

ETA: Or what Lindal just said.

The few times I've been to clubs inworld, have usually been with friends, mostly male. Umm, no wait, that isn't true. I guess I've wandered in here and there on my own accord if there happened to be one where I was shopping or whatever. I remember going into one infamous place, just because I was bored one afternoon and wanted to hang out somewhere out of my normal SAMO SAMO. Had a great time BS'ing with the dancers and the male patrons at the bar.

Anyway, that's not the point I suppose.

For me, I absolutely want the dancer to speak to me in first person. I've never sat down looking to be turned on myself. I've gone there on the arm of another or just to shoot the breeze for a bit since I enjoy chatting with all kinds of people. Tho I certainly don't mind being flirted with by anyone, that much is true.

So, to begin with you must make a connection with the person, you can't have your tip jar doing the talking. I'm certainly going to tip someone regardless of whether or not they put on a good show for me, just for being polite and saying hi or having a nice chat but I'm NOT going to tip their jar if they just wave their goods in my face. Anyone can do that and it seems rather impersonal to me. One never knows which person is going to be the one to tip well and for what reason. Could be the drunk guy at the end of the bar who barely can see straight; or it may be the girl who came in just to kill a few moments and wants to hand out some Lindens to someone who needs it more than her

Hi Brit..I dance and host at a really great friendly club in SL. All the staff are friendly and the room is full of chat. The dancers thank people for their tips using the /me but talk first person in the room, joking and conversing with the club patrons. Sometimes an employee will get quiet and be in im with a new sl member, helping them out. We have avatars from all walks of sl and have a great time.

If you would like to come and observe just im me and I will tp you over some evening.

Fand

Third person only worked for Bob Dole.

Honestly, when people give me a tip, I always respond with "Thanks for the tip, so and so!!" Sometimes I add a bit of emoting in the form of "/me kisses your hand for that awesome tip" for women. Depends on how busy I get when I'm DJing.

I've never actually tipped a dancer because most of them just give you canned gesturing/emoting, and it doesn't take any effort to do that while sitting on a dance pole. I usually only tip hosts and DJs. I might tip a dancer if I notice they're actually making an effort to add to the atmosphere of a club.

Definity talk and joke with the people in the audience. just using emotes will leave them wondering if you are really there or some Bot running a script. Engage people in conversation.

Also dont used 40 line ascii art as a thank you and while the owner may want you to point out the mall or ask to tip the DJ / other staff try and keep it to a minmum and not fire it off every 5 minutes.

One other tip, especialy for non strippers (who are more limited) get some wild hair / outfits that really stand out. ...

Its an old saying in the (RL) entertainment business "Never look lke you should or could be part of the audience"

I tip dancers primarily for their emoting abilities - even over their appearance. A guy or gal can have a so-so shape, but if they dress it up with good emoting, well ...

/me reaches for her wallet.

When I go to a club, I tip based on interaction, making conversation in addition to thanking for tips. As for the thanking, I see some use the same frigging line everytime they get a tip, and that's not very inspiring. Whether you give a simple thanks or a longer emote, try to make it personal. Personally i like to joke around and adapt my thanks to whatever event we're having that night.

Welcome to the JulieAnne School of dancing.

1. Finding the right club. Most people go to a club where there is a theme. BDSM, Cowboy Bar, etc... there are a million clubs out there without a theme or idea behind it. Then they wonder why there are no customers. Usually (but not all the time), clubs that have events, DJ, and things to do are the most popular. There are exceptions, one club in particular that I am thinking about is themed (BDSM) but has no events and only once in a while has a DJ. But the girls are great emoters.

2. The girl beside you, on stage, is your competition. Its nice to think your sisters but your not. You have to sell yourself better than her. Dont use a lot of emotes and if you do use two in a row, make sure there is a feeling that your hand-typing each one. Try to be personable.

3. Try and attrack peoples attention in to where you are. Ask them to have a seat. Read there profile and ask questions. STAY OUT OF IM!! Make sure everything is in open chat. Nothing worst than a church like strip club.

4. Be polite, welcome each guest and be cheerful. Most guys that are there have a fetish about something so dont be insulted when they try and explain it to you in IM. Tell them you have to stay in open chat by order of your boss. Your going to hear a lot of stuff that I'm sure is physically impossible

5. Dont be cheap taking off the clothing. Two or Three tips of 200-300L each and you should be naked. Now you have to be original in your emotes to keep the client interested. Something like "Now that you have me naked BillBob, where do you suggest I put your next tip?" Dont run away and redress is what I'm saying!! Now is the time for you to put on a show.

6. Ask the Management about language use. Some club would like you not to be vulger about it, where as other clubs will insist it. There is a big difference between .....

/me rubs her sweet peach up againest your thigh leaving a small wet spot
or
/me rubs her pussy up againest your thigh leaving a small wet spot

(personal note: I hope thats not to much for this forum)

Bascially, you will soon get a following that will come and stay when your around. Be patient, work hard (its not easy juggling 5 IM's at the same time and trying to be sympathdic to the guy that just lost his girlfriend), and stay detached. My final peice of advice (but I have so much more) is remember they are going to read your profile too. Remove things you dont want other to know about you and for god sake, no one likes to tip a dancer that is Partnered so remove it!!!

Good Luck and have Fun,

JulieAnne

I remember one hostess I worked with when I was a DJ, and she then came to my club to work when I built my own (which is now packed in inventory again heh)

anywho, this can also apply to a dancer I guess...

she got tons of tips, and her thank you's were very unique, always cute, and just... unique

for example... (this has been a couple years ago so I am a bit rusty on her style but you will get the idea)

Thank you for the awesome tip so and so, you are as yummy as a piece of chocolate cake with whipped cream and cherries on top.

(you get the gist of it)
and they were always different. I think a lot of times folks tipped her to see if they would be able to stump her LOL. But.. she got the tips, she was constantly thanking people for her tips, and always in that style


so ... find a style that works for you and go with it

(now... we will see folks everywhere trying to mimic this style, word of warning... it probably will not work for you, as it was unique to her, you need to find your own style!)

I would not go so far as to say no one will tip a partnered person. When I danced I was partnered at the time, and I still got the tips, easily a few 1000 lindens per session (2 hour sessions)

my advice... be yourself, be comfortable with what you are doing, and enjoy it

But how much more would you have made if the fantasy of you being availabe exsisted? We'll never know. its no different than wearing Wedding rings and stripping in RL, no one does it!

ah but this is not Real Life

and I doubt it would have made a difference

after all, most of the people who go to the strip clubs, are themselves married (partnered) and are not looking for a relationship, so being available might actually deter them, and being partnered shows them that there are no chance of any strings being attached

*shrug*

it all depends on how well the individual does

(I would not remove my partnership, just so I could dance and maybe make a few extra 1000 lindens, that would be what... 3 or 4 dollars us, sad price to put on a relationship/partnership

Good Answer. But SL is very close to RL, in that there is a business plan made and followed. Advertizing is always desired, and feelings dont change because your hidding behind a monitor, etc... I'm just giving advise on how to maximize your profit. There are far better ways to make money in SL than dancing too

Its a job and its about making money!

isn't saying "her" third person?

I agree, I danced once.. I was ok with it but I stoped when I entered a relationship with somone.. that relationship ended but I found another way to make money on SL and that was building.
As it happens I am in a new relationship and was thinking about dancing again as the money flow is kinda slow now... but my (not official) partner asked me not to, and I respect and love him enough I won't do it... for him yes.. I will dance all night. but for others.. no.


BUT, a point to the dance issue, do not not not use random genstures or e motes that everyone else is using. I had a huge notepad of emotes i had collected while visiting strip clubs and watching other dancers, I changed some and added to others and just had as they came in ones as well... I hope no one gets upset about that.. anyway. I never used them BUT, they did plant nice creative ideas in my head and from those I could develope a better understanding on emoting.

Still I am confused a bit over using things like

/me tosses a cherry into the air, watching as it falls. opening lush lips to catch it in mid air with a snap, wiggling a firm tongue inside mouth and with the skills of a master finally sticking out a firm tongue proudly displaying a perfectly tied knott in the cherry stem..

/me tosses a cherry into the air, opening her lush lips she catches the cherry in her mouth and wiggles her tongue around her mouth... opening her mouth she displays a perfectly tied knot in the cherry stem..

I'm not sure which way is proper..

Im sure this extends to other roleplaying which I am kinda interested in so I would like clarification. (and please i know those above are the lower end of the emote scale but its only example)







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i haven't read much of the thread but i have been a dancer for most of my SL life..
I found that you just need to keep it real with people..have fun and don't pressure for money.

if you are having fun with the crowd people will IM you most times..

i find that being as original as you can to separate yourself from any stereotypes that dancers have gotten is good..
be flirty but with a little humor when you feel you are in a playful mood or sensual when you feel in that mood..
and never mention the words tip or comp ever..
i use kindness or generosity..i never made anyone feel they ever had to give me money..
it was always a no pressure thing letting them if they wished..as soon as you cross over into speaking about money you make it all about the money..

i always told dancers that i mentored or worked at clubs for me..if you are doing it for the money you won't do near as well as if you are doing it for the fun.keep it real and let your positive emotions free and never dance in a bad mood or when you feel it's a bad night..
always show your best side..

people can tell the difference between someone up there on stage having fun and feeling sexy VS someone up on stage with the business sign on trying to act sexy..

a lot depends on which type of dancer you want to be..do you want to dance to make lots of money or do you want to dance to have fun?
you'll find that the dancers that are more real an having fun with their customers will have more return customers that over time will show up in different clubs you work in when you dance..
myself i had to ignore the money..i never played this change clothes thing after a certain amount like a lot of clubs want their dancers to do..

i just never could follow a rule that made me feel like i was cheating a patron or person sitting in front of me..
i always had much more success when i could change a persons mood from happy to happier or from normal to turned on or from a bad day to a good day..
the money comes on it's own in time..most of my friends list is from people that i have met in the clubs as a dancer..

if you do it right and stand out from the norm that people are used to you will meet a lot of great people that will become long term friends over time..and you will make a lot of money..
be picky in the types of clubs you work for..look for ones that are more about dancer presentation than tips.

and one last thing..never worry about money in another dancers jar..never worry about another's style or what they are doing right to be making more than anyone else..some girls have their own thing that works for them..
Dance for yourself and not for any other dancer up there..competing is something dancers have no business doing working in the same club..
it's about helping each other out and becoming sisters and using that twards the crowd that helps club..

oh yes one more thing lol..
i've seen a lot of dancers do this also..making note cards with emotes on them..
you can't be too real going off carbon copies of old feelings..
if you let your emotions take over and you are feeling sexy or sensual.you won't need to use copies of anything..it spills out if you just let loose..hehehe

it's been a while since i've thought about dancing so i am sure this is a rusty version and i am leaving tons out..but the basics are there i guess hehehe..
just keep it real and as original as you can and be your sexy sensual self and let people see it in the classiest way you can..