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Rita Himanez
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06-07-2009 09:10
Why did Linden's choose that and what does it mean?
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06-07-2009 09:40
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06-07-2009 10:09
I think they should have gone with something more along the lines of this:

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06-07-2009 13:32
well there is an old saying that if you play with something too much you will go blind..
now i don't know if this is something that aims at a specific thing or not but i have noticed a lot of older people do wear glasses..

but this is just theory behind this hand eye combination thing..

i also hear that eating carrots helps slow down this process..

your guess is as good as mine..lol
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06-07-2009 13:38
It's the cover for a book about playing Perky Pat, I was talking about the story and someone else here in the forums found the cover for "The Three Stigmata's of Palmer Eldtritch" by Phillip K Dick.

It's got the hand and the eye on it, was freaky.

The original story if you can find it is called "The days of Perky Pat" written in the 50's and it's basically SL.
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06-07-2009 13:55
"Talk to the hand".
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06-07-2009 14:16
Seriously, this is Linden Labs' take on it: The ancients believed that the protective eye-in-hand symbol brought good luck and good fortune. In Second Life®, the eye observes the vast virtual 3-D world, and the knowing hand shapes it.
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06-07-2009 14:19
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"Talk to the hand".


/me laughs..
Harrie Skjellerup
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06-07-2009 14:27
I always found the logo quite amusing as its practically the same as the logo for one of the big trade unions SIPTU in Ireland

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06-07-2009 14:39
From: Harrie Skjellerup
I always found the logo quite amusing as its practically the same as the logo for one of the big trade unions SIPTU in Ireland


Whoa, Harrie, that's uncanny. And funny to me as I spent some time at a conference recently arguing whether SL was useful for union organizing in any capacity.
DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-07-2009 19:24
From: Ian Nider
The original story if you can find it is called "The days of Perky Pat" written in the 50's and it's basically SL.


"I'll tell you one thing...we hear that Connie Companion doll is a bit older than Perky Pat. You know--more, um, *mature*."

(The Days of Perky Pat, by Philip K. Dick, Amazing Stories, Dec. 1963)

[It's a story about post-nuclear war adults who play with Barbie-type dolls who still have all the things they lost - houses, cars, supermarkets. It has nothing to do with computers or virtual reality. I happen to have a copy of that issue of Amazing Stories right here]
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06-07-2009 22:24
From: Milla Janick
"Talk to the hand".


I think you are on to something here....
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06-07-2009 22:36
From: Argent Stonecutter
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Wicked looking page. Brought back many memories.

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Originally Posted by Milla Janick
"Talk to the hand".



lol :D
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06-07-2009 22:47
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
"I'll tell you one thing...we hear that Connie Companion doll is a bit older than Perky Pat. You know--more, um, *mature*."

(The Days of Perky Pat, by Philip K. Dick, Amazing Stories, Dec. 1963)

[It's a story about post-nuclear war adults who play with Barbie-type dolls who still have all the things they lost - houses, cars, supermarkets. It has nothing to do with computers or virtual reality. I happen to have a copy of that issue of Amazing Stories right here]


Well I better swap to Connie then, eh, don't want to get 1984'ed. :) With The days of Perky Pat I see a real analogy to SL. Maybe a slight hint of the I Robot novels too.

I haven't read sci fi for 20 odd years, but Perky Pat came flooding back into my mind when I started SL.
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06-08-2009 01:01
I think if it were an aphorism it might go something like this:

The wisdom we take from our vision we use to guide our hand.

I looked over the "eye in hand" info from google searches a couple years ago. It is a pancultural
icon in that it seemingly originated in multiple places around the world independently. While it
is interpreted variously the common theme seems to be combination of Vision, Wisdom and
Action.

It seems to be a pretty good symbol as we all play and create in a place of mutual shared imagination. I suspect that if the ancients had shot to create a symbol for this it may have looked a bit different. :)
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06-08-2009 02:17
Here is one I made at around the time of the SLB 3.

Back when I was trying to sell art. Before I started creating textures.

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06-08-2009 12:34
I still say, it isn't a hand at all...

It's the Southbound end of a Northbound Ostrich, with its head stuck in the sand so it can't hear its Customers.
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-08-2009 16:23
From: Ian Nider
Well I better swap to Connie then, eh, don't want to get 1984'ed. :) With The days of Perky Pat I see a real analogy to SL. Maybe a slight hint of the I Robot novels too.

I haven't read sci fi for 20 odd years, but Perky Pat came flooding back into my mind when I started SL.


In the sense that lots of people "play Barbie" with their avatars (dress them up), and set up house, I agree with you.

In the sense of using a game to retreat from the real world, perhaps.

In the sense that the kids are out hunting mutant dogs to put food on the table, while the parents are distracted by playing with dolls, not so much.
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06-08-2009 19:53
I always thought it looked kind of spooky and freaky.
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-09-2009 06:07
From: TundraFire Nightfire
I always thought it looked kind of spooky and freaky.


All of SL is just an attempt to reduce your brain to a steaming mass of pudding like goo, after which the Linden staff will suck it out with a tentacle. Because they are aliens, and thats how they like it.

(personally, it looks like an eye with really long lashes to me, Dolly Parton/Tammy Faye Baker class)
Shirley Marquez
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06-09-2009 11:11
From: Ian Nider
It's the cover for a book about playing Perky Pat, I was talking about the story and someone else here in the forums found the cover for "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldtritch" by Phillip K Dick.

It's got the hand and the eye on it, was freaky.

The original story if you can find it is called "The days of Perky Pat" written in the 50's and it's basically SL.


"The Days of Perky Pat" is available in The Collected Stories Of Philip K. Dick Volume 4: The Minority Report, which is available from the usual booksellers. This volume is from the prime of Dick's story writing; if you're only going to have one volume of the set, this just might be the best. (But why stop at one?)

The novel is available separately or as part of a new four-novel omnibus, Philip K. Dick: Four Novels of The 1960s / The Man in the High Castle / The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch / Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? / Ubik. I highly recommend that omnibus if you don't have any of the novels; those are four of PKD's best. Fans will recognize Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? as the book that became the source for Blade Runner; it's very different from the film, and both are wonderful.
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06-09-2009 11:17
Ian: the book cover is in Wikipedia. :)

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06-09-2009 11:21
From: Shirley Marquez
"The Days of Perky Pat" is available in The Collected Stories Of Philip K. Dick Volume 4: The Minority Report, which is available from the usual booksellers. This volume is from the prime of Dick's story writing; if you're only going to have one volume of the set, this just might be the best. (But why stop at one?)

The novel is available separately or as part of a new four-novel omnibus, Philip K. Dick: Four Novels of The 1960s / The Man in the High Castle / The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch / Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? / Ubik. I highly recommend that omnibus if you don't have any of the novels; those are four of PKD's best. Fans will recognize Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? as the book that became the source for Blade Runner; it's very different from the film, and both are wonderful.



He is great! there's an urban myth about him that the believed he was John the Baptist and that he died of a brain stroke on the night Bladerunner opened. I have a copy of "The days of Perky Pat" inworld if you or anyone would like a copy.

I'm tempted to fall back into sci fi a bit I haven't been into it for some 20 odd years now, but yeh.
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06-09-2009 11:28
From: Argent Stonecutter
Ian: the book cover is in Wikipedia. :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/TheThreeStigmataOfPalmerEldritch(1stEd).jpg


Thanks.
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06-09-2009 11:33

is more fitting IMO
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