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Lowen Raymaker
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01-07-2008 11:28
Hi foks, I was thinking about a new business and when I came up with a name I liked I logged into SL to do a search to make sure it wasn’t in use. The name of the business contains the word “casino” and when I searched I received a message that informed me I had searched for a word excluded from the search results. The excluded word of course was “casino”. I then remembered the gambling ban and it became clear to me that I cannot have a business name that contains the word “casino” in Second Life. Even if my new business does not have gambling at all and merely uses the word in the name, I cannot use it. Now is gambling banned or the usage of certain innocuous words? According to the American Heritage Dictionary the word casino could mean one of two things. From: someone 1. A public room or building for gambling and other entertainment.
also cas•si•no A card game for two to four players in which cards on the table are matched by cards in the hand.
2. A summer or country house in Italy. The alternate definition of the word has nothing at all to do with an illegal practice. Also this, From: someone Word History: The history of the word casino reveals a transformation from a cottage to a gambling palace. The source of our word, Italian casino, is a diminutive of casa, "house." Central to the transformation is the development of the senses of casino in Italian. The word was first applied to a country house and then came to be used for a social gathering place, a room or building where one could dance, listen to music, and gamble. This last pastime seems to have gained precedence over the others, at least as far as the development of the word is concerned, and casino took on the meaning "gambling establishment." These senses of the Italian word have all been borrowed into English, the sense "social gathering place" being recorded first in the 18th century, the sense "gambling establishment" first in 1851. Wow a casino sounds like a pretty festive “casa” to me. In the United States Online Gambling is banned and Gambling establishments called Casino’s are only allowed in certain areas. Since online gambling is banned in the United States and Second Life is operated by a company based in that country then online gambling is banned on the grid. This is the law of the land and I can’t argue with it, but why is the word “casino” banned? Search for yourself in the Places Search – Casino – 0 results Other names of acts or items that are possibly illegal in all parts of the United States and are allowed to be advertised in Second Life. heroin - 3 stalker - 3 missle - 5 murder - 9 cocaine - 10 nuke - 14 marijuana - 16 rape - 66 drugs - 85 kids - 225 (so many kids references in a market aimed at adults? I know I know, it's only roleplay/innerchild/therapy) escort – 688 So were casino’s such a blight that the mere name of their ilk should be scratched from all the prims in the land? Do we not still have campers? Bots? Lag inducing resource eaters? Why of all the words that represent horrible acts designed by man would LL choose to ban such a simple word? Why are they banning words at all when their criteria seems so lacking and uneven? |
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Alicia Sautereau
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01-07-2008 11:35
because casino = gambling = banned = blacklisted
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Isabeau Imako
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01-07-2008 11:45
Have you tried an alternate spelling? Caseeno/Casyno/Kasino/Quasino/Cazino, etc. I know I'm not really answering your question about which words are banned and why but, if you're dead set on naming your business using the word 'casino', and it's not just to get extra traffic from those 'uninformed' who still don't know about the gambling ban, it's an idea (?)
Just curious, will you be selling little Italian villas?
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Travis Lambert
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01-07-2008 11:46
From: Lowen Raymaker Now is gambling banned or the usage of certain innocuous words? Gambling is banned in Second Life. The usage of certain innocuous words aren't banned - they're just omitted from the in-world search results. Feel free to use them as your buisness name, but folks wont be able to search for you using that 'omitted' word alone. From: someone This is the law of the land and I can’t argue with it, but why is the word “casino” banned? Not banned. Omitted from the search results. Big difference. I dont believe you're going to get a TOS violation for having the word Casino in your parcel name, if you're not gambling. Of course, you're tempting fate that Linden may make a mistake in their assessment. From: someone So were casino’s such a blight that the mere name of their ilk should be scratched from all the prims in the land? Do we not still have campers? Bots? Lag inducing resource eaters? Casinos wern't considered a blight by Linden Lab. They were considered a Liability. I think many of us are waiting for them to come to a similar conclusion with campers, bots & lag inducing resource eaters - but Linden hasn't yet. From: someone Why of all the words that represent horrible acts designed by man would LL choose to ban such a simple word? Why are they banning words at all when their criteria seems so lacking and uneven? The words aren't banned, they're omitted from the search results to discourage folks from advertising for Casinos. Reasonably 99.99% of folks who search for the word "Casino" are not looking for an Italian villa, but rather a place to gamble.
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Marianne McCann
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01-07-2008 11:50
From: Lowen Raymaker
kids - 225 (so many kids references in a market aimed at adults? I know I know, it's only roleplay/innerchild/therapy)
Why of all the words that represent horrible acts designed by man would LL choose to ban such a simple word? Why are they banning words at all when their criteria seems so lacking and uneven?
Hi, and welcome to one of the search terms my own store uses. I'm not sure which horrible acts selling EZ Bake ovens and pinwheels you are referring to, however. I know what you were thinking here, but um... maybe consider checking "ageplay" or "pedophilia" rather than kids? Yeesh. Mari
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Chip Midnight
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01-07-2008 11:53
They need to do some work on the filtering. I was updating my classified yesterday and it was rejected because it contained the word "slots," which it actually didn't. It contained a sentence that ended with an s, followed by a period, and the word "Lots" starting the next sentence. 
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CCTV Giant
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01-07-2008 11:54
Can we call Mr Carlin in on the one?
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Lindal Kidd
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01-07-2008 13:12
From: Isabeau Imako ...Just curious, will you be selling little Italian villas? Hey, that's MY line! Sheesh, everybuddy wants ta get inta de act!  That's OK. My next sim will be an underwater mountaintop located deep in intergalactic space, where it snows in the desert. I'm going to refurbish WWII submarines and rent them as houses. Every one will come with a free pet snow camel. And you'll need it, to eat the carnivorous plants. Let's just SEE somebody try to copy THAT!
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Ruthven Willenov
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03-16-2008 00:13
From: Lindal Kidd Hey, that's MY line! Sheesh, everybuddy wants ta get inta de act! That's OK. My next sim will be an underwater mountaintop located deep in intergalactic space, where it snows in the desert. I'm going to refurbish WWII submarines and rent them as houses. Every one will come with a free pet snow camel. And you'll need it, to eat the carnivorous plants. Let's just SEE somebody try to copy THAT! LMAO interesting!!!! |
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Argos Hawks
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03-16-2008 03:06
From: Travis Lambert Gambling is banned in Second Life. The usage of certain innocuous words aren't banned - they're just omitted from the in-world search results. Feel free to use them as your buisness name, but folks wont be able to search for you using that 'omitted' word alone.
The words aren't banned, they're omitted from the search results to discourage folks from advertising for Casinos. Reasonably 99.99% of folks who search for the word "Casino" are not looking for an Italian villa, but rather a place to gamble. The words ARE banned. I used to have a place that had the word Casino in the name. When the gambling ban happened, the name and place description were deleted from the land, not just the search results. Lots of other interesting words were banned too, and it's often hard to figure out which ones. You can't post a nightlife event with the word 'contest' in the description. Even if you're having a best dressed contest. I found that one out by submitting an event 1 sentence at a time to find out which sentence had the word that was not allowed.
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Tegg Bode
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03-16-2008 03:17
Actually this explains why I can't use the word "SLOT" in a classified add. I got error messages a few times from even when spaces were in it like "itS LOT of good" or by SL OTher ways" It comes up with a message saying you can't use the word SLOT then you look through your add 3 times to try and find it
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Argos Hawks
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03-16-2008 03:19
From: Tegg Bode Actually this explains why I can't use the word "SLOT" in a classified add. I got error messages a few times from even when spaces were in it like "itS LOT of good" or by SL OTher ways" It comes up with a message saying you can't use the word SLOT then you look through your add 3 times to try and find it Classifieds are good in that way. On the events page, it doesn't tell you why it's blocking your event from posting. Lots of happy fun time trying 100 different wordings when you don't know what word the program is blocking.
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Kismet Karuna
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03-16-2008 04:13
From: Argos Hawks Classifieds are good in that way. On the events page, it doesn't tell you why it's blocking your event from posting. Lots of happy fun time trying 100 different wordings when you don't know what word the program is blocking. Sadly, this sounds like business as usual for LL. Sigh. |
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Dakota Tebaldi
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03-16-2008 15:19
I guess you'll just have to think of a name that doesn't have "casino" in it.
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Har Fairweather
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03-16-2008 15:31
From: Dakota Tebaldi I guess you'll just have to think of a name that doesn't have "casino" in it. Back when I played WoW, they had this kind of net-nanny word censor on their player forums. If it banned something like "casino," it would still miss something like "ca.sino" - anything that breaks up the character sequence programmed in and is reasonably unobtrusive to a normal human being. Which was good, because people got tired of typing in such things as "South Houston Institute of Technology" when they really meant s.hit. Worth a try. |
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Kira Cuddihy
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03-16-2008 15:37
Didn't see if it was mentioned or not, but I think everyone started spelling it with a K when Casino's were first banned. No idea if it works now or not though, but you might want to give it a try. Kasino  |
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Tegg Bode
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03-17-2008 00:58
From: Har Fairweather Back when I played WoW, they had this kind of net-nanny word censor on their player forums. If it banned something like "casino," it would still miss something like "ca.sino" - anything that breaks up the character sequence programmed in and is reasonably unobtrusive to a normal human being. Which was good, because people got tired of typing in such things as "South Houston Institute of Technology" when they really meant s.hit.
Worth a try. Lol yes it was funy the censor bit where we couldn't say Jesus, but you could name your character that, and you could still say Satan or Buddah, and many others
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Maggie McArdle
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03-17-2008 02:51
gets that de'jevu feeling .........o.o
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Conifer Dada
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03-17-2008 03:01
Some time ago I posted a thread about dubious names used by residents (from search). I didn't post any individual names, however. But there were quite a few Hitlers, Stalins, KKK's etc.
Even a number of residenst who called themselves 'Murderer' or 'Rapist'.
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