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Shania Vidor
Registered User
Join date: 22 Mar 2007
Posts: 2
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05-07-2008 06:36
Hi All,
I have a question maybe somebody knows the answer... I bought a plot off 4096sqr on a high speed 5 class server normal prim count, so far so good would you think.. I thought so too. But now my simowner send a note he is converting to opensims.. Means more land but all know scripts are running slower and I had my island bought because I didn't want that anymore. Can he just say I convert you get 4 times more land same tier, take or leave it... I payed 20K for the high speed 5 server land and don't want the opensim with the trouble I did run for. I can't find any info about what my rights are in this. Can I say no and ask my 20K back? Can somebody give me some answers it would be so great...
Thnx for your time, greetings Shania
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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05-07-2008 06:56
From: Shania Vidor Can I say no and ask my 20K back? You can ask for anything, but there's no guarantee the sim owner won't just kick you off without further discussion, and nothing you could do about it: LL doesn't get involved in such matters, so it's between you and another resident, unrefereed. But I think you're concerning yourself needlessly. (I'm assuming here the owner is converting to OpenSpace, not "opensim"--if the latter, well, you'd have nothing of value after such a conversion, and you should just cut your losses now.) There's been a lot of talk about OpenSpace sims and their suitability for residences, but really, if you get four times as much land, that means there'll be one fourth as many other landowners competing for the sim processor's attention. So, it's *almost* a wash, except that four OpenSpace sims share a single processor, they can "steal cycles" from each other, and the assignment of which OpenSpace sims share which processor is... "ill-defined". So a sim owner has less control over just how much capacity is available to their particular sim. All that said, though, with Mono coming Real Soon Now, I sure wouldn't be worrying about *script* times. And with H4 getting polished to a high sheen now, a lot of physics lag is waning, too. The big sim bottleneck now and for the foreseeable future is image download bandwidth (for everybody, not just OpenSpace). So, personally, I think the OpenSpace is more likely to be a net win than a loss.
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Abigail Merlin
Child av on the lose
Join date: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 777
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05-07-2008 06:58
The estate owner makes the rules so from LL point of view he can do what he wants, however smart estateowners are willing to listen to reason and you might be able to work something out.
The key word however is reason so don't go yelling at him or resort to name calling but start a civil dialog.
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Mjolnir Uriza
Hammer of the Gods
Join date: 14 Sep 2007
Posts: 504
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05-07-2008 06:58
if it's not mainland or you are not the island owner basically you have no rights.if the accual owner wants to evict you after you give him your moneyo or what ever it's is right to do so, and LL will not, can not help you.you can ask for your money back but don't be suprised if they say no.
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Ceera Murakami
Texture Artist / Builder
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
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05-07-2008 07:04
Quite honestly, unless you're doing things that use ungodly numbers of complex scripts, or huge numbers of particle generators, you'll notice no difference being in an OpenSpaces sim. I wouldn't put a denesly packed shopping mall filled with a variety of scripted vending systems in an OpenSpaces sim. But normal residential stuff should be fine.
As for your "options", you have two. Accept what the Landlord plans to do, or move elsewhere. Personally, I would give it a try before rejecting the idea.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
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05-07-2008 07:16
First of all, you might want to check out the performance difference in real terms.
Nova Civis Caledon is a class 5 openspace with a 1000 prim sandbox up at around 500m altitude or so (it's run by Carl's NCI). If you wanted a sense of lag, wait until they aren't having a class downstairs and rez a bunch of your stuff - that's about what a class 5 openspace will do. He's also got a bunch of NCI stuff running downstairs that you won't have. Another trick is wait until one of the classes is in session, and go there - you'll see what it's like with 20 or 30 avatars in an openspace. It's not too bad, really. There *is* a serverside bug that momentarily knocks all openspaces down to .20 time dilation or so every 15 minutes or something like that, but that is being worked on - it's bound to go away in a month or something like that. You might be pleasantly surprised with regard to real performance. One of the major advantages of openspaces is that 75% of the lagtastic things that people normally do with a full region just isn't done within your draw distance, because they only have 25% of the prims. As for working things out - here's another trick. Both you and the land baron probably know someone with another private estate. Likely, there are people on the other estate just dying to go to an opensim. Swap land! Everyone goes home happy.
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