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Zanco Guardian
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03-06-2009 17:23
So i'm relatively new to the SL scene. Only been in there about a month or so. I got into it from a friend who has been in way longer than i have thinking i'd be able to get some help from her but turns out she's not much help at all. I guess i'm kind of looking for someone who can answer any questions i have if i come across them. I've made the mistake of kind of rushing into some things in the game and now i'm trying to dig my way out. I purchased a home that is pretty much crap to me right now because the prim count is so low i can't even properly funish it the way i like. Right now i'm in seach of a new home with higher prim amount. I'm not fully understanding of the terms and what not in SL. I just at leastttt needed somewhere to call home in there. It was driving me nuts just TPing from one place to another and never having anywhere to go home to. Right now i have rented land which is ok with me...I'm just looking for a good home i can purchase or rather maybe some opinons on the best places to go to look at homes. I'd love something spacious perferably 2 bedrooms rooms...kitchen..the works. One room for my wife and I and maybe joining members of the family down the line. I was hoping something pre funished that we could just slowly changed the funishing but i've come to realize there's not very many funished homes available. I would actually just settle for a home with a lottt of prims. I know it could be pricey but it's something i'm interested in at least checking out. If anyone can help....if anyone would care to show me some ropes i'd be sooo appreciative. Thanks so much
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03-06-2009 17:27
From: Zanco Guardian
the best places to go to look at homes. I'd love something spacious perferably 2 bedrooms rooms...kitchen..the works.


My fav house place is Brennan Homes. They are lovely and spacious, good quality and the prices are very low compared to some.

Just look them up in search and I hope you enjoy looking around them as much as I did.
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03-06-2009 17:28
Buy a piece of land at 512 sq metres. Build yourown house. May I say that you moved fast with a "wife" already. Go easy on the kids - coz they may be a lot older than you. Good luck.
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03-06-2009 17:34
I think we're talking apples and oranges here...

Houses and land parcels don't always come together. Most often, people buy a parcel of empty land first, then buy, build, or get a freebie house.

You want a parcel of land with a high prim count; you can rent or buy vacant land; the larger the parcel, the more prims you have available to you.

You want a house with separate rooms, etc. This, you can buy or build on your new parcel.

The house and parcel do NOT always come together and most often are acquired separately.
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Zanco Guardian
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03-06-2009 17:37
From: Jig Chippewa
Buy a piece of land at 512 sq metres. Build yourown house. May I say that you moved fast with a "wife" already. Go easy on the kids - coz they may be a lot older than you. Good luck.


she's my wife in real life...she has a account as well so i didn't just...shack up with some chick. lol The kid thing..i dont plan on getting one of the creepy ones who are played by someone. A fake prim one would do ok at some point but i have a feeling thats far down the line yet.

Thanks for the info about where to look for homes. I'll definately take a look at it.

See this is where i'm still new at learning. I guess i'm not understanding the difference between a limit of prims on a parcel and a limit a sold home comes with.
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03-06-2009 17:43
A home, if we are talking about the actual structure, has no inherent prim limits, it is a collection of prims itself. The number of prims you can rez in the home is predicated on the parcel of land it sits on. A 512 has 114? prims. So you have that many prims to work with. The prim count of the house counts against that number as well.
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Damien1 Thorne
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03-06-2009 17:50
@Brenda: 117 prims for a 512.

@OP: Are you renting or did you buy on mainland? If you are renting, the owner can set whatever prim limits he or she choses.

If you bought mainland, what size of parcel?
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Brenda Connolly
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03-06-2009 17:53
From: Damien1 Thorne
@Brenda: 117 prims for a 512.

@OP: Are you renting or did you buy on mainland? If you are renting, the owner can set whatever prim limits he or she choses.

If you bought mainland, what size of parcel?


Meh, what's 3 prims?

Tells you how long since I have had land.
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Damien1 Thorne
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03-06-2009 17:59
From: Brenda Connolly
Meh, what's 3 prims?

Tells you how long since I have had land.

Just think of the nice adfarm you could make with 3 megaprims.
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Zanco Guardian
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03-06-2009 18:08
I am currently renting. The property itself isn't very big...but i figured it would be alright for the home i started with. Obviously i was wrong. I got a kitchen set, a bed, a few odds and ends things and then it says i have no room to place other things becuase i've filled up my parcel lol None of the objects i placed are very big in prim...hell i dont even have a couch yet. I'm just so frustrated. I know nothing about land....renting...whats a good rate...I wouldn't even know how to build a home of my own.

So what i'm gathering is the home really doesn't have much to do with the amount of prims you have...it's the parcel in which the land sits on that controls that. Anddd the renter controls that amount as well?

If this is correct does anyone have any pointers of good land thats spacious and affordable?
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03-06-2009 18:12
How many prims is the house? Some houses take a lot of prims right off the bat.

As far as the allowance, if you rent the land from someone else, yes, they can decide how many prims to give you. If you buy the parcel outright, then you will have full use of all the prims, _117_ for every 512 sq meters you own.

There are quite a few reputable land dealers here on the forum, one should be by any minute I bet.
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Amaranthim Talon
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03-06-2009 18:15
Just a little FYI... that comment about the "creepy ones who are played by someone" is not going to endear u to many folks. You will find SL is a very diverse community. Enjoy and welcome to SL.
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03-06-2009 18:28
From: Zanco Guardian
I am currently renting. The property itself isn't very big...but i figured it would be alright for the home i started with. Obviously i was wrong. I got a kitchen set, a bed, a few odds and ends things and then it says i have no room to place other things becuase i've filled up my parcel lol None of the objects i placed are very big in prim...hell i dont even have a couch yet. I'm just so frustrated. I know nothing about land....renting...whats a good rate...I wouldn't even know how to build a home of my own.

So what i'm gathering is the home really doesn't have much to do with the amount of prims you have...it's the parcel in which the land sits on that controls that. Anddd the renter controls that amount as well?

If this is correct does anyone have any pointers of good land thats spacious and affordable?


ahem... I declare an interest here, being a landlord/estate owner (and feel free to check out our rentals....)

If your current home is on the mainland (i.e. Linden Lab is who you pay tier to) then there is a set amount of prims you can have (117 per 512 plot).

Private estates, such as ours, can do it two ways - either sell a plot to you (which again restricts the number of prims as per mainland, although - and I know this is confusing - estate owners can provide "multiples" of prims per plot, although they cannot exceed the overall sim limit and when I last looked the multiplier has a maximum of two: so on a "double prim" plot you'd get 234 prims on a 512 space) (and the sale price can be anything from 0L$ to whatever L$), or they can simply rent you a nominal space and charge according to your prim usage (which is by and large what we do).

Be warned: you can never have enough prims! lol - I started out with a 512 and a house that took up 80% of them. I don't care to count the number of sims we have now - and STILL not enough prims :(

Final note of caution: as already posted, be VERY careful about spending your lindens on land. Which is not to say don't do it, but do some 'due diligence' first. It's your money after all.

Happy to answer any questions you might have - IM me in world or PM me here

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03-06-2009 18:44
From: Jig Chippewa
Buy a piece of land at 512 sq metres. Build yourown house. May I say that you moved fast with a "wife" already. Go easy on the kids - coz they may be a lot older than you. Good luck.



You may be making an assumption here.

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Weston Graves
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03-06-2009 18:47
You might also want to ask why you really want a house. I got by for several months just TPing from place to place and I was okay with that. If I wanted to feel a modicum of privacy, I'd duck under the ocean to change clothes or into one of the many public dressing rooms available at places like NCI (New Citizens Inc.), but even this is not really necessary. You avatar doesn't have to eat or sleep or do anything mundane at all really.

Eventually though I did feel the need for a home base to quicky TP to when I needed to get out of an embarassing situation (back then we would appear in world with our hair up our rear end a lot -- some kind of bug), so I rented a little 512m plot. I still didn't think of it in terms of a house for a family - I wasn't playing the Sims Online, just exploring this new 3d medium. I didn't need a lot of furniture.

I really didn't feel like I could build or buy a comfortable realistic home until I knew I was hooked enough to fork over the monthly tier or rent for at least a 2048m plot, but I bypassed that entirely and went straight to 4096m plot. This cost a little over $20.00 US at the time per month, maybe $25.00, but finally I felt I had enough elbow room and prim count to do what I wanted.

Now I have 4096m plus a little 512m to the side for extra prims -- and you know what? I still don't have a house. I have a little cubicle 1200 meters in the sky that I use as a home base and to tweak and dress my avatar. The rest is all garden and art gallery - so in this sense SL is a 3d web page for me.

If you must have a home, be careful about buying one too large. I found out quickly when I tried having a house that they are very hard to fill with furniture if they are too spacious. Smaller is often better. You will also not want to fill up a house as you would a real life house because you should leave a lot of room for your camera which is usually several feet behind you and overhead. Too much clutter and it obscures your view.

Well, goodness me! I didn't mean to pontificate for so long.

Welcome to Second Life and may you find your world, your imagination at least as interesting as mine has been.
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Elizabeth Barrett
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03-06-2009 18:59
if you love sl and plan on staying for years, and you can afford it, buy an island, im serious, its the best way to go. you make all the rules, and with 15,000 prims, you'll have a blast.( and you WILL run out, as much as you think its impossible )

i lived here for a few years before getting my island, and now i will be celebrating the islands third birthday soon, it made all the difference in my enjoyment level in sl.

and the 'creepy kids with real people' are TONS more fun than those ugly prim babies : PP

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03-06-2009 19:07
And you really don't even need a house. Traditional architecture is so last century.
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03-06-2009 19:08
Dont get hung up on you must have a home. either rented or owned... You can enjoy SL w/o either and simply having someplace like NCI as home...


take the above with a grain of salt since Im one of those, so called, "creepy ones who are played by someone"..
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03-06-2009 19:10
From: Argent Stonecutter
And you really don't even need a house. Traditional architecture is so last century.


He's going to need something for his wife to get in the settlement.
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03-06-2009 19:11
From: Brenda Connolly
He's going to need something for his wife to get in the settlement.
The excite bed, of course!
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Marianne Little
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03-06-2009 23:24
Hi, welcome to SL:)

I rent unfurnished, and put my own furniture in. My guess is that you do the same. It's simple and easy. My landlady is Cristalle Karami, you could try to send her a IM inworld and ask if she has some with 2 bedrooms. With Cristalle, you can add on prims as you use them. She comes by and adjust the rental box with the new prim count. She has reasonable prizes! When you rent like this, you can click your rental box and it gives you the number of prims that you have, and the number you already used.

I don't feel the need for a kitchen in SL, and I just recently got a bath. We don't get hungry in SL, or dirty.... lol. Depends on how we define "dirty".

The first you need to know, is how many prims the furniture you buy will use. You rightclick the furniture and choose "edit". You get up a window and the prim number comes up under "general". You can get some surprises there. I got a nice detailed kitchen of a friend when I rented my first place, a rustic cottage. It was....98 prims! So that kitchen still sit in my inventory :(

But you say that your furniture isn't many prims. Do you know how many prims you can use? You want to look for "low prim" furniture.

Are you sure there isn't a small item there that use up the prims? Small items as tea sets, flowers, frames and lamps can be very primheavy! You quickly learn to calculate prims. I have a nice potted orchid that's exactly 10 prims. That's because it's made with sculpted prims. I've seen potted orchids that's close to 30 prims.
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03-07-2009 00:01
From: Jig Chippewa
Go easy on the kids - coz they may be a lot older than you.


Often, if not usually! ;-)

From: Zanco Guardian
The kid thing..i dont plan on getting one of the creepy ones who are played by someone. A fake prim one would do ok at some point but i have a feeling thats far down the line yet.


Hmpf.

Prim babies. Now *those* are creepy.

Oh, an you dun so much "get" one of the real ones. We're not, like, inna vendor or nuttin. :-D

From: Elizabeth Barrett
and the 'creepy kids with real people' are TONS more fun than those ugly prim babies : PP


You said it!
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03-07-2009 01:35
From: Zanco Guardian
I'm just looking for a good home i can purchase or rather maybe some opinons on the best places to go to look at homes. I'd love something spacious perferably 2 bedrooms rooms...kitchen..the works. One room for my wife and I and maybe joining members of the family down the line.
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03-07-2009 10:09
lol...sorry for those who are offendedy by the kid comment but honestly thats my opinion. I'm not on hours and hours enough to have a real person play the kid..and i definately dont have the funds by buy the child what they need. So it would just be easier for me to go with a prim. That's all i'm saying and i wasn't trying to offend anyone. Secondly...i'm definately going through all the posts here and i'm understanding more than i did before so that's definately good. For those of you who say i dont really need a place. I do understand that...it's just a personal choice i feel 10 times better being in the game if i have somewhere to locate home to. Thanksss very much to anyone who answered and helped
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03-07-2009 10:14
Heh, I didn't say you don't need a home, I said you don't need a *house*.

Not the same thing at all.
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