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Visitor tracking with meaningful statistics...?

Amy Stork
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Join date: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 646
05-12-2008 04:56
Hi maybe somebody has some ideas on this / suggestions. I'm trying to find a visitor tracker that actually provides meaningful data. There are many about and they all seem to be variations of the same root script.

Basically it needs to:

- Log who has visited and how long they spent
- Keep track of multiple visits ( most scripts only track somebody on the first visit )
- Clear down the log automatically and IM it to you
- Better still send it to a website for permanent automated tracking etc, there is already one product that does this but only on numbers not on names*

Basically after a while you can build up a picture of who your frequent visitors are so person a visited on monday 3 times for a total of 45 minutes, tuesaday 2 times for 10 minutes etc etc

*actually maybe i should just get in touch with them *winks*

Anybody seen or uses something like this?

Cheers

Amy :)
Dekka Raymaker
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Join date: 4 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,898
05-12-2008 05:02
maybe not the reply you were looking for :)

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Qie Niangao
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Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
05-12-2008 05:44
Actually, if one were to turn this into a custom scripting job, one might consider integrating the visitor data with the purchasing data, possibly by replacing all selling with boxes or vendors that communicate their sales into the same system, so you know what kind of customers buy and which just shop, to better target advertising, etc. As suggested, the "back end" of such a system would best be web server based: it's just too much data to try to store with in-world server scripts. And, with all the data on a web-accessible DB, one could have all manner of marketing fun with OLAP cubes on demographics and purchasing patterns, etc.--almost like a real retail business.
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Amy Stork
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05-12-2008 07:35
Hmmm....

If you can get the data posted to a webpage somehow maybe you could get a free google analytics account and somehow "convert" the data into something that the google api can understand - that way all you need is a data transformation layer you never actually need to store any data.

Tracking visitrs to a sim is probably not a whole lot different from tracking visitors to a website. Just substitute a av name for an ip address and you're away....

I somehow suspect this is much easier to say than it is to do...

My requirement is nothing to do with retail at all - it's more for "recreational" type sims - but I can see why it *would* be of value to shopkeepers especially if linked up with purchasing patterns... although that would be even harder than just better visitor tracking...
Ancient Shriner
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Join date: 3 Nov 2005
Posts: 26
V-Tracker
05-12-2008 08:08
Amy,

A shameless plug for my product:

http://www.code4software.com/vtracker.aspx

It will do everything you want and more in the current version 2.3, but we're rolling out Version 3.0 next week with tons of new features, including heat mapping, avatar trail maps (where specific avatars went over time), and OLAP style pivot table reports. The specific reports you are looking for of Avatar Name, Visit Time, Location, By Date, is already included in the current system.

Please feel free to reach out to me in-world, or via the contact info on the website.
Amy Stork
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Join date: 26 Feb 2006
Posts: 646
05-12-2008 09:46
Ok shameless plug accepted.

I want it!
I want it now!!

I will be in game in at about 7.30pm GMT
Kalderi Tomsen
Nomad Extraordinaire!
Join date: 10 May 2007
Posts: 888
05-12-2008 10:13
Ooooh I do so love being tracked everywhere...

Especially people that link what I buy AND where I go!

Oh maybe this could be enhanced to log all public chat too? Find out what people are saying before and after they buy a product.


Ah what a courageous, nay "brave", new world....
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Amy Stork
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05-12-2008 11:19
I'm not interested in what people are saying - just where they are going and who is visiting...

I know it sounds a bit big brother but it's nothing really...

With all due respect Kalderi, if you do not wish to be tracked then you should probably not use the internet, go to a supermarket or even leave the house as there is cctv all over the place these days.

If I let people onto my private property in SL I reserve the right to track their visits - however I will add in the visitor notecard that this will occur and if they have any objection to being tracked they can go somewhere else. Does this seem fair?
Amy Stork
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05-12-2008 11:55
Sorry about the double post but this is back on topic:

There appears to be three systems which do what I'm looking for:

VTracker: http://www.code4software.com/VTracker.aspx
Maya Realities: http://www.mayarealities.com/index.php
and,
Second Analytics: http://www.second-labs.com/

As far as I can tell these are all on a subscription basis. The costs are as follows:

VTracker: Unknown
Maya Realities: USD$480 per year per sim
Second Analytics: USD$209.78 per year per sim

Second Analytics offers a free 30day trial which is pretty cool and the annual TCO is favourable - invaluable if you are a business owner, but high if you are a hobbyist like me. Nevertheless i will try the free trial - maybe one of these companies will produce a "Lite" version for low volume not-for-profit sims ;-)