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Ciaran Laval
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01-07-2010 09:58
Just done a search for something and I see in the main blurb:

"New to Second Life? Try it Now! "

Which vanishes from view when you click on a place, it's a link from the website search but why is it appearing under all these other places? It sort of takes away some of the blurb on the inworld search.
Jenshae Werefox
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01-07-2010 10:05
I didn't understand that at all. Want to have another crack at it?
Fox Marchant
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01-07-2010 10:13
nope.....didn't get that either bub......run that by me again, I am rather old :)
Ciaran Laval
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01-07-2010 10:16
Ok, go to search all, search for anything you like, on the left you get a list of places with parcel names and the start of the description of the place, you don't see it all as it's a preview of what the parcel contains.

The first few words of the descriptions are:

"New to Second Life, try it now".
Phil Deakins
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01-07-2010 10:18
Er... what have you been smoking, Ciaran?

I don't see anything like that at all - just tried it again with PG only checked and with all levels checked.
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Dekka Raymaker
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01-07-2010 10:20
From: Phil Deakins
Er... what have you been smoking, Ciaran?

I *don't anything* like that at all - just tried it again with PG only *checkled* and with all levels checked.


Are you smoking something?
Phil Deakins
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01-07-2010 10:23
lol. I invented a word - checkled. What can we use it for? A minor chuckle?

Fixed them both, and I'm smoking nothing - not even tobacco.
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Milla Janick
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01-07-2010 10:28
I see that before the search results are fully rendered, too. I figure it's some quirkiness in the way the viewer render the HTML code on the page.

ETA:

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Phil Deakins
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01-07-2010 10:33
From: Milla Janick
I see that before the search results are fully rendered, too. I figure it's some quirkiness in the way the viewer render the HTML code on the page.
Before Christmas, I was chatting about the All search with Rene, and I saw a pre-formatted page (black text on a white background) very briefly before the html formatting was complete. I saw it a few times - only for an instant each time. Judging by the words I saw, I thought it was the actual page before formatting, and I don't recall anything like the phrase that Ciaran is talking about. Ciaran says it's at the start of every place decription, so presumably the results page is fully formatted.
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Joshooah Lovenkraft
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01-07-2010 10:34
I see that sometimes before the description as well. I'm not sure but I think that might occur when you're doing searches on the website but you aren't logged into your account.
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Ciaran Laval
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01-07-2010 10:59
From: Phil Deakins
Er... what have you been smoking, Ciaran?

I don't see anything like that at all - just tried it again with PG only checked and with all levels checked.


pffft, it shows on the website search too:

http://search.secondlife.com/web/search/?q=low+prim+furniture

Second one down and one near the bottom.
Tini Jewell
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01-07-2010 14:12
Yes, I've noticed those strange descriptions too, Ciaran, and have also been wondering what they are all about. I've thought it may somehow be maturity-level related. I have all 3 settings selected so, maybe, it takes the 'least' offensive manner of search but doesn't hold back the place that would (should) never show if I only had PG selected, plugging in just a generic blurb.

Just a guess. I'll have to see what happens when unchecking two of the 3 settings in various searches.
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Phil Deakins
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01-07-2010 14:15
Now I see them. Some of them just have the "... try it now!" part. It looks like a cock-up on LL's part.
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Phil Deakins
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01-07-2010 14:18
From: Milla Janick
I see that before the search results are fully rendered, too. I figure it's some quirkiness in the way the viewer render the HTML code on the page.

ETA:

That's what I sometimes see but it's after clicking on a listing in the results. That's the right html page for my store but the SL search's browser hasn't formatted it. It only last for a moment.
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Phil Deakins
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01-07-2010 14:28
From: Milla Janick
I see that before the search results are fully rendered, too. I figure it's some quirkiness in the way the viewer render the HTML code on the page.

ETA:

That's the page that the website search produces before it's formatted. The top part is displayed at the top of my page. It's also what I described earlier as having seen a few times momentarily. I only got a glimpse and I recognised the largest text. I didn't get time to examine the stuff at the top. Or it could be an intermediary page with an auto-redirect to the display version.

That stuff at the top is new since I last did a website search, which was a long time ago. My guess is that is very new because Ciaran's only just noticed that phrase where it shouldn't be. It looks like they've changed to using the same results and parcel pages as the website uses, but they don't display the top part in the SL searches. And they've cocked up the changes.
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Ciaran Laval
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01-07-2010 14:51
From: Phil Deakins
Now I see them. Some of them just have the "... try it now!" part. It looks like a cock-up on LL's part.


It's a cock up, earlier on the website search I saw the actual link it's supposed to use, it's above the search results and is obviously intended for people who find http://search.secondlife.com and are curious to find more but why it's appearing in the actual parcel descriptions is a mystery.
Joshooah Lovenkraft
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01-07-2010 14:53
perhaps related to fiddling with the google search appliance they plan on implementing? https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/blog/2010/01/07/search-upcoming-release
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Phil Deakins
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01-07-2010 15:02
Thanks for that, Josh. I hadn't seen it. This part looks interesting:-

From: someone
Relevance improvements. We've made some changes that will lower the rank of keyword-stuffed or gamed listings. This means that high-quality destinations and listings will rise to the top of Search results, creating a more satisfying search experience for Residents by connecting them with the best of Second Life.
Keyword-stuffing became utterly ridiculous but you either joined in or died. With a bit of luck we'll be able to go back to listing actual items for sale.
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Viktoria Dovgal
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01-07-2010 15:02
It's an artifact of the old embedded browser, it's a little pokey about loading CSS. The new plugin engine seems to have this under control.
Nic Writer
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01-07-2010 17:27
From: Phil Deakins
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Well done! Go, you!
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01-08-2010 04:47
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Well done! Go, you!
Ty Nic - coming up to 7 months now :D
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Melita Magic
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01-08-2010 18:15
From: Ciaran Laval
Ok, go to search all, search for anything you like, on the left you get a list of places with parcel names and the start of the description of the place, you don't see it all as it's a preview of what the parcel contains.

The first few words of the descriptions are:

"New to Second Life, try it now".


I'm guessing the business or place described is new to Second Life.
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01-09-2010 00:36
A job for our new Google Search overlords to fix :)
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Ciaran Laval
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01-09-2010 02:40
From: Melita Magic
I'm guessing the business or place described is new to Second Life.


No, I've seen what it's supposed to be, there should be a link on the website search page for people to follow but they've messed it up slightly and the text part of that link was appearing in other listings. Liana said they know about it and will fix it.