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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
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05-23-2007 23:12
ok, Just came from a new store only to find out the proprietor is stocking thier store with stolen designs from well known and established designers. we are currently calling all designers of boots, clothing, and, shoes to please im Me in world and i will send You a tp to see if Your items are here as well.
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There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Camden Juran
Totally weird
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 34
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05-23-2007 23:22
ok, Just came from a new store only to find out the proprietor is stocking thier store with stolen designs from well known and established designers. we are currently calling all designers of boots, clothing, and, shoes to please im Me in world and i will send You a tp to see if Your items are here as well. Very nice action against this theft Maggie, good work!!  Camden xxx _____________________
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Annabelle Vandeverre
Heading back to Real Life
Join date: 30 Nov 2006
Posts: 609
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05-23-2007 23:25
I hope it's not one of those business in a box things gone astray. If that's what happened, they'll be all over the grid in no time flat. Hope you can nip it in the bud before it goes too far.
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Dnel DaSilva
Master Xessorizer
Join date: 22 May 2005
Posts: 781
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05-23-2007 23:28
There now, I'm not sure about the boots, but all the women's clothes seem to be from Symmetry by Kasi Tandino. I can not say for sure if he is an authorised reseller or a theif...
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
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05-23-2007 23:53
symmetry put all their stuff up for sale about a month ago for use to resell or whatever (full permissions) if you dig you can find the ad in the forums here i think it was in events. They said they were taking a nwe direction and put the stuff up fora few weeks and some peple bought them. I hope people are making sure its actualy new symmetry stuff and not the Old stuff which they retired after they sold them full perms..
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Dnel DaSilva
Master Xessorizer
Join date: 22 May 2005
Posts: 781
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05-23-2007 23:57
symmetry put all their stuff up for sale about a month ago for use to resell or whatever (full permissions) if you dig you can find the ad in the forums here i think it was in events. They said they were taking a nwe direction and put the stuff up fora few weeks and some peple bought them. I hope people are making sure its actualy new symmetry stuff and not the Old stuff which they retired after they sold them full perms.. Cool, that clears that part up...there is some definate design theft though. I think he's taking it down. _____________________
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Wilhelm Neumann
Runs with Crayons
Join date: 20 Apr 2006
Posts: 2,204
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05-24-2007 00:02
I suppose i should go check my stuff to then?
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
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05-24-2007 00:25
ok ty all it seems it was mainly one designer the proprietor stole from and they are taking it down.
just a heads up, if you spot another designers work being sold as an original by someone you know didnt make it, let the designer know then let the community know. this kind of stuff has to end. we now return you to your regularly scheduled Second Life _____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Stylee Streeter
I am not an adfarmer ok!!
Join date: 5 Feb 2007
Posts: 190
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05-24-2007 04:44
sorry, just for the record, are you saying you are not alowed to sell stuff in SL that you havnt made yourself?? even if settings alow?
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Sterling Whitcroft
Registered User
Join date: 2 Jul 2006
Posts: 678
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05-24-2007 05:26
Stylee,
The best guide is your conscience and RL morals. Typically, if an object's settings allow, then 'Yes' you can resell. So, if you buy a pair of shoes from a store, and they are TRANSFER, then 'Yes' you can resell them....just like in real life. However, if you *steal* a pair of shoes that are marked, 'transfer', then you should not resell them. Just like in RL. There are also people in SL who do not like to handle 'retail'. You can buy their content "wholesale", and resell it. Just like in RL. But, here are some SL specific circumstances: -its not good form to sell Freebies. Typically, a $1L charge is okay for expenses, but don't rip off the newbies. -Check for 'licenses'. Something may be copy/transfer/mod, but if you use the source code or script, that script must be free and unmodified. If an object HAS a license in it, then when you resell it, leave the license inside. -Textures are a special case. "/me holds his head". Unless you personally uploaded a texture, do not resell it. (every once in a while, someone invents something that will make duplicates of things that are NO COPY, NO TRANSFER, and NO MODIFY. They use their invention to make illegal copies. Its theft, clear and simple. In RL and SL ) Intellectual Property Rights in SL are always a hot topic. I've tried to provide a summary of the simple and obvious answers. |
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Stylee Streeter
I am not an adfarmer ok!!
Join date: 5 Feb 2007
Posts: 190
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05-24-2007 06:19
Stylee, The best guide is your conscience and RL morals. Typically, if an object's settings allow, then 'Yes' you can resell. So, if you buy a pair of shoes from a store, and they are TRANSFER, then 'Yes' you can resell them....just like in real life. However, if you *steal* a pair of shoes that are marked, 'transfer', then you should not resell them. Just like in RL. There are also people in SL who do not like to handle 'retail'. You can buy their content "wholesale", and resell it. Just like in RL. But, here are some SL specific circumstances: -its not good form to sell Freebies. Typically, a $1L charge is okay for expenses, but don't rip off the newbies. -Check for 'licenses'. Something may be copy/transfer/mod, but if you use the source code or script, that script must be free and unmodified. If an object HAS a license in it, then when you resell it, leave the license inside. -Textures are a special case. "/me holds his head". Unless you personally uploaded a texture, do not resell it. (every once in a while, someone invents something that will make duplicates of things that are NO COPY, NO TRANSFER, and NO MODIFY. They use their invention to make illegal copies. Its theft, clear and simple. In RL and SL ) Intellectual Property Rights in SL are always a hot topic. I've tried to provide a summary of the simple and obvious answers. thanks sterling, that kind of clears things up, however, I think I will stick to the SL rules and sell anything that allows me to do so.  |
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
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05-24-2007 08:32
sorry, just for the record, are you saying you are not alowed to sell stuff in SL that you havnt made yourself?? even if settings alow? you can provided that You: A) have the proper permissions on them(if they are transferable you can go into edit mode to check this) B)isn't a freebie item. i have seen freebie boxes for as high as 50l. go figure. but a 1-10l fee is reasonable, especially if it contains a stores discontinued item. C) isn't a copy of a one of a kind, or exclusive to a certain designer(s). or based on an already copywritten design. which was the case here. anything in SL can be sold. but if You do it without integrity, honesty, or hard work, it's hollow, imho. _____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Beezle Warburton
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Join date: 10 Nov 2006
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08-19-2007 16:07
B)isn't a freebie item. i have seen freebie boxes for as high as 50l. go figure. but a 1-10l fee is reasonable, especially if it contains a stores discontinued item. anything in SL can be sold. but if You do it without integrity, honesty, or hard work, it's hollow, imho. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Dubya%20City/68/204/24/ $150 vs: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Areumdeuli/207/3/79 $1 |
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
Posts: 3,676
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08-19-2007 16:10
Very nice action against this theft Maggie, good work!! Camden xxx Alleged theft _____________________
hateful much? dude, that was low. die. . |
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 4,103
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08-19-2007 16:10
B)isn't a freebie item. i have seen freebie boxes for as high as 50l. go figure. but a 1-10l fee is reasonable, especially if it contains a stores discontinued item. /me once saw a Starax Pegasus selling for L$10k.  |
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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08-19-2007 16:11
you can provided that You: A) have the proper permissions on them(if they are transferable you can go into edit mode to check this) B)isn't a freebie item. i have seen freebie boxes for as high as 50l. go figure. but a 1-10l fee is reasonable, especially if it contains a stores discontinued item. C) isn't a copy of a one of a kind, or exclusive to a certain designer(s). or based on an already copywritten design. which was the case here. anything in SL can be sold. but if You do it without integrity, honesty, or hard work, it's hollow, imho. A is correct, but why B and C? Since when was copywright of virtual creations legally enforcable? _____________________
hateful much? dude, that was low. die. . |
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Beezle Warburton
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Join date: 10 Nov 2006
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08-19-2007 16:13
A is correct, but why B and C? Since when was copywright of virtual creations legally enforcable? http://secondlife.com/corporate/dmca.php |
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Jax Jevon
There ya go !
Join date: 18 Jun 2006
Posts: 308
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08-19-2007 17:52
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Rioko Bamaisin
Unstable Princess
Join date: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,668
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08-19-2007 18:04
I spent $300 on a very nice looking pair of shoes last night. I just seen them in a freebie shop for free. Ouch.
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