Resell boxes, best way to handle these?

These things pop up from time to time. Some are legit and others, well, you know.

It takes a lot of time to research these boxes and find out if they are legit.

I thought it would save some time to say that if I can find any of the items in the resell box somewhere else being given out as freebies (L$0 or L$1), then ban it.

Good? Advice?

I don't understand your question.

How you do deteremine if the resell box is legit and not waste time doing such?

Simple. If it's a resell box, chances are it's a waste of time. Were the products any good, the creator would sell them direct and make money themselves. Conversely, if someone were to put them out as BIAB to make money, chances are they were not the creator.

I don't quite understand what you're asking either?

There's tons of resell boxes out there that are being given for free or a linden. As for being legit....I don't quite get that...they're all legit I suppose.

Unless you're selling the items with a no copy - buy in bulk - customer comes back for more kind of deal to sell of your stuff, then the resale business doesn't work in SL due to it's permissions. Once someone buys your full perm items...there's nothing stopping them from giving those items away for free...even with whatever stipulation you've placed on them. No one's going to know...and that then generates a flood of these now freebie items.

The only "reseller" I've seen that would be "legit" (???) would be the Vindi Vindaloo Resellers. I don't know how she works those out though, although I doubt they are being sold to the reseller as full perms.

Please clarify more...

Legit... hmmm...

Like gather bunch of freebies and put them in a box and mark it "resell" instead of "freebies".

I don't think there's an easy way to tell that...he he. Sounds like alot of work to me.

Sensual Casanova and Asri Falcone do a similar deal to Vindi and are part of the SL wholesale network, as is Vindi.

Ravenwear did do a similar deal, I think she still does but I'm not 100% sure.

You buy in bulk (usually 10 in a box), the items are not full perms.

Corbantis Priestman with the -UK-Couture range does her own similar resale agreement. Again you buy in packs of 10 and the items are not full perms.

Some designers sell to order, I forget the ladies name (I have her notecard somewhere) it's the Symmetry range, you'll find many of her designs in BIAB because she got ripped off but she now sells directly to people for resale with the proviso that you can't sell full perms.

If the distributer creates a non-copyable object and sticks it in the resell box, it could be used to help identify legit resell boxes. That would save time and bring confidence back to the resell market. The non-copiable object can be verified as needed. It's not the best solution.

There's no way to easily figure that out without buying the box then going into each box and putting the items on.

To your other statement: Even if you put a no copy item in the box...if I have a full perm item (a freebie), I can put it in a box and set the item itself, not just the box, to no copy and sell it - that doesn't negate the item from being a freebie to start with. And...that's just ONE item that's no copy, the buyer can buy the box, remove the no copy item and still resell the other full perms items in it...or repackage.

There isn't a valid market for resale in SL (unless it's no copy/buy in bulk) as someone WILL take advantage of the full perms and go about giving the items for free or sell as a full perm item as well. It's a sad truth, but a truth nonetheless.

I wouldn't invest in these business in a box type deals unless it's a no copy/bulk purchase situation. Regardless of whether you have an agreement or not...as soon as you've given away/sold something with full perms...whatever happens to that item, you no longer have any control over it.

The others items in the box can be seen as freebies, but the one non-copiable item helps identify the distributer of the resell box. It's just a dummy just to tag the creator profile.

It could be the box itself, which can be done with some scripts.

It's like a watermark on a picture. Check the watermark to see if it valid. The only different is that we want to validate the box itself, not the freebies. It takes time to validate the freebies, so skip that step and validate the source.

I don't think it's worth worrying so much about, since if the price doesn't match the value someone isn't going to pay it. And, I think the value of content should be allowed to rise just as much as it is to fall... That's how I feel, take it as you wish (:

Full-perm "resell boxes" or "business in a box" things are all scams of one level or another. Even if the things inside are fully legit, you can almost certainly find the things for free somewhere else. And, yet, here are the BiaB resellers selling them to people as if they could set up a shop and sell those things individually, making money. The sad thing is that some people do.

Troll the freebie places first; you're likely to find the same items for free somewhere else.

If you have ever paid money for a dress made by Agent Case or Bianca Barbee (two residents who have long been gone from SL, and before they left donated the things they made to be freely shared), you were scammed.

If your like me you bought one of those dumpster thingies took those BIAB'S removed the "illegal stuff" and threw em all in there for a dumpster dive ..

You might want to go to a "SL Consumer Skills" class in-world. You can ask questions and it is really helpful. It used to be offered twice a week and checking the Education listings should give you days and times.

It seems no matter where I rent, I end up next to one of those "business in a box" resellersthey're either selling the "business in a box" or the individual items, each for hundreds of lindens. Think I'll add a prim to my stores with a touch me for your own free biz in a box kinda thing, and give them lm's to the places that are giving those biz in a boxes away for free. (Like to Free Union, and a few other freebie places) I dunno, it kinda chaps my butt really, to see people getting these things for free, renting a store for a few lindens, and duping joe newbie into buying a box of freebies for a couple hundred linden.

anyway....

I didn't know there were legit resale boxes in sl, I thought all of them were scams. I guess you learn something new every day.

me either =/

Did that in the past. I thought they would distract. I put lots of freebie boxes out of all the freebies I could find, tons of freebies, and some are still in my plaza. They're worth the L$1 for all the hard effort I put into gathering up the freebies!

Yep, well, I did it. I have a small mall, and one shop we've dedicated to freebies. Will set them all for sale for 0L. We got them for free, we pass them on for free. Won't make any money, but hopefully will keep someone else from losing theirs to a shyster

The easiest way to be safe is assume that if the seller isnt the creator, its most likely a freebie being resold.

If you want to follow up more on it, you could contact the creator and ask them if they have a deal with the seller where that seller can resell their items.

If you have a mall and dont want the effort of doing that, you could put it in your terms and conditions that all products sold for more that 0L$ must be created by the seller and have their name on the product as the creator.