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Amy Stork

Way past use by date

Join date: 26 Feb 2006

Posts: 646

07-07-2008 09:47

I removed the names to protect the innocent, but this occured at Nature's Way yesterday. Should I ban the offendor? I don't like banning people for offences I haven't personally witnessed.

From: someone

[16:57] <Name Removed>: Amy, I don't know if I'm overreacting, but there's a guy walking arond here not saying anything, messing with a cloaking device and he has a huge erection. His name is <Name Removed>. Also, he's using objects to launch people into the air.
[17:14] <Name Removed>: Now he's spamming vehicles all over the beach. A permanent ban would be much appreciated.

Ann Launay

Neko-licious™

Join date: 8 Aug 2006

Posts: 7,893

07-07-2008 09:49

Did you try talking to the guy? I'd do that and then ban him if he wouldn't stop being disruptive.

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Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.

Ghosty Kips

Elora's Llama

Join date: 2 May 2008

Posts: 2,386

07-07-2008 09:52

I wouldn't even talk to him. Eject/ban.

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Dagmar Heideman

Bokko Dancer

Join date: 2 Feb 2007

Posts: 989

07-07-2008 10:15

Why wouldn't you ban him? If there was anything innocent to it and he wants to come back he can always IM you and ask but orbiting people is sufficient justification for an ejection and ban.

Trout Recreant

Public Enemy No. 1

Join date: 24 Jul 2007

Posts: 4,873

07-07-2008 10:20

yep - eject/ban, and ask the person complaining to AR.

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Sling Trebuchet

Deleted User

Join date: 20 Jan 2007

Posts: 4,548

07-07-2008 10:22

Freeze and talk.
If it's a non-house-trained idiot capable of clue, life is good.
Otherwise eject and ban.

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Atom Burma

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Join date: 30 May 2006

Posts: 685

07-07-2008 10:23

Are you managing this area or something? I am getting that impression. Then if you are responsable for the safety of your patrons, then ban away. Especially if its a nudist colony. Anything seen as 'taboo' will always attract people going there simply to cause problems. I just ban now and if they decide to ask me why then I explain, give them a warning and 1 more chance.

Raudf Fox

(ra-ow-th)

Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 5,119

07-07-2008 10:25

My vote is for perm banning the idiot.

I had a lady in my shop who was spamming everyone with a HUGE radius with an ad of some sort. So, when I got an IM complaining, I went and chatted with the offender. Turned out she had a hud that spammed and she didn't realize it was doing that.

That is an 'innocent' offense. Orbiting is instant ban.

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Imnotgoing Sideways

Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=

Join date: 17 Nov 2007

Posts: 4,694

07-07-2008 10:25

To me you had two options and could have done both. (^_^)

1) Reply to the person suggesting an AR on their part. Launching people in the air is harassment/assult. Noobie McGriefer could have gotten better than a land ban for that. (^_^)

2) Show up to see it for yourself. If you weren't busy enough, you could have looked at the creep eye-to-eye and had sure reason to eject/ban the 'tard. (^_^)y

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DaQbet Kish

cautiously reckless

Join date: 22 Jan 2007

Posts: 1,064

07-07-2008 10:30

“walking around here not saying anything,…” Means he probably wouldn’t respond if you did try to talk to him.
“messing with a cloaking device” Not sure what that means but it must have been scary enough for <Name Removed>#1 to mention.
“has a huge erection.” pfft!
“he’s using objects to launch people into the air.” Strike one. two and three.
“Now he’s spamming…” just gravy.
Eject. Ban. AR!
IMO

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Har Fairweather

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Join date: 24 Jan 2007

Posts: 2,320

07-07-2008 10:32

Hard to imagine anyplace in SL where the behavior described would not be griefing that requires summary eject/ban for the sake of the other visitors and the reputation of the site.

The only room for doubt is whether the report is false (perhaps the complainer is the real griefer?) or true. Do you know the complainer? Do you trust him/her? If not, I'd say verify the complaint first. Perhaps talk to the alleged perp.

But once you are confident he is guilty, terminate him with extreme prejudice: eject/ban/AR without discussion. The message to the griefer and any griefer friends he might have is more effective when you do it that way. Mute is optional.

I have an alt that provides security to a popular place, and I follow this policy. Over time, the griefing has fallen off to practically zero, and the place is more popular and busier than ever.

Amy Stork

Way past use by date

Join date: 26 Feb 2006

Posts: 646

07-07-2008 11:09

Well, I think I will just ban then - seems a pity because most people who visit Nature's Way are very nice and respectful on the whole.

I was sleeping at the time otherwise i would have enjoyed booting him personally

From: someone

eject/ban/AR without discussion

Lissa Pinion

Cowgirl at Large

Join date: 29 May 2007

Posts: 48

07-07-2008 11:26

From: Amy Stork

Well, I think I will just ban then - seems a pity because most people who visit Nature's Way are very nice and respectful on the whole.

Not a pity. What is a pity is if you don't ban the trouble makers. Becomes a pity to all the ppl who follow the rules and show respect for one another.

Banning Troublemakers is a hobby of mine

Lissa

Amy Stork

Way past use by date

Join date: 26 Feb 2006

Posts: 646

07-07-2008 11:30

LOL - I don't make a habit of it myself but i meant a pity for the other guests

Rainy Latte

Self-proclaimed deviant

Join date: 2 Jun 2008

Posts: 92

07-07-2008 11:39

stupidity like that deserves nothing less than BAN/EJECT.. BUH BYE!

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Tabliopa Underwood

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Join date: 6 Aug 2007

Posts: 719

07-08-2008 05:48

From: Amy Stork

... I was sleeping at the time otherwise i would have enjoyed booting him personally

/me eyes light up. Booting nawti avatars out on their bums, mmmmm! =)

Shana Moger

Registered User

Join date: 24 Apr 2008

Posts: 14

07-08-2008 07:23

At time's i wish i had the ability to launch people up in the air !!

To ban or not to ban?
Amy Stork Way past use by date Join date: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 646	07-07-2008 09:47 I removed the names to protect the innocent, but this occured at Nature's Way yesterday. Should I ban the offendor? I don't like banning people for offences I haven't personally witnessed. From: someone [16:57] <Name Removed>: Amy, I don't know if I'm overreacting, but there's a guy walking arond here not saying anything, messing with a cloaking device and he has a huge erection. His name is <Name Removed>. Also, he's using objects to launch people into the air. [17:14] <Name Removed>: Now he's spamming vehicles all over the beach. A permanent ban would be much appreciated.
Ann Launay Neko-licious™ Join date: 8 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,893	07-07-2008 09:49 Did you try talking to the guy? I'd do that and then ban him if he wouldn't stop being disruptive. _____________________ ~Now Trout Re-Re-Re-Certified!~ From: someone I am bumping you to an 8.5 on the Official Trout Measuring Instrument of Sluttiness. You are an enigma - on the one hand a sweet, gentle, intelligent woman who we would like to wrap up in our arms and protect, and on the other, a temptress to whom we would like to do all sorts of unmentionable things. Congratulations and shame on you! You are a bit of a slut.
Ghosty Kips Elora's Llama Join date: 2 May 2008 Posts: 2,386	07-07-2008 09:52 I wouldn't even talk to him. Eject/ban. _____________________ -- Why aren't you doing something more useful, like playing WoW?
Dagmar Heideman Bokko Dancer Join date: 2 Feb 2007 Posts: 989	07-07-2008 10:15 Why wouldn't you ban him? If there was anything innocent to it and he wants to come back he can always IM you and ask but orbiting people is sufficient justification for an ejection and ban.
Trout Recreant Public Enemy No. 1 Join date: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 4,873	07-07-2008 10:20 yep - eject/ban, and ask the person complaining to AR. _____________________ From: Jerboa Haystack A Trout Rating (tm) is something to cherish. To flaunt and be proud of. It is something all women should aspire to obtain!
Sling Trebuchet Deleted User Join date: 20 Jan 2007 Posts: 4,548	07-07-2008 10:22 Freeze and talk. If it's a non-house-trained idiot capable of clue, life is good. Otherwise eject and ban. _____________________ Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used. http://www.ace-exchange.com/home/story/BDVR/589
Atom Burma Registered User Join date: 30 May 2006 Posts: 685	07-07-2008 10:23 Are you managing this area or something? I am getting that impression. Then if you are responsable for the safety of your patrons, then ban away. Especially if its a nudist colony. Anything seen as 'taboo' will always attract people going there simply to cause problems. I just ban now and if they decide to ask me why then I explain, give them a warning and 1 more chance.
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	07-07-2008 10:25 My vote is for perm banning the idiot. I had a lady in my shop who was spamming everyone with a HUGE radius with an ad of some sort. So, when I got an IM complaining, I went and chatted with the offender. Turned out she had a hud that spammed and she didn't realize it was doing that. That is an 'innocent' offense. Orbiting is instant ban. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	07-07-2008 10:25 To me you had two options and could have done both. (^_^) 1) Reply to the person suggesting an AR on their part. Launching people in the air is harassment/assult. Noobie McGriefer could have gotten better than a land ban for that. (^_^) 2) Show up to see it for yourself. If you weren't busy enough, you could have looked at the creep eye-to-eye and had sure reason to eject/ban the 'tard. (^_^)y _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
DaQbet Kish cautiously reckless Join date: 22 Jan 2007 Posts: 1,064	07-07-2008 10:30 “walking around here not saying anything,…” Means he probably wouldn’t respond if you did try to talk to him. “messing with a cloaking device” Not sure what that means but it must have been scary enough for <Name Removed>#1 to mention. “has a huge erection.” pfft! “he’s using objects to launch people into the air.” Strike one. two and three. “Now he’s spamming…” just gravy. Eject. Ban. AR! IMO _____________________
Har Fairweather Registered User Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,320	07-07-2008 10:32 Hard to imagine anyplace in SL where the behavior described would not be griefing that requires summary eject/ban for the sake of the other visitors and the reputation of the site. The only room for doubt is whether the report is false (perhaps the complainer is the real griefer?) or true. Do you know the complainer? Do you trust him/her? If not, I'd say verify the complaint first. Perhaps talk to the alleged perp. But once you are confident he is guilty, terminate him with extreme prejudice: eject/ban/AR without discussion. The message to the griefer and any griefer friends he might have is more effective when you do it that way. Mute is optional. I have an alt that provides security to a popular place, and I follow this policy. Over time, the griefing has fallen off to practically zero, and the place is more popular and busier than ever.
Amy Stork Way past use by date Join date: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 646	07-07-2008 11:09 Well, I think I will just ban then - seems a pity because most people who visit Nature's Way are very nice and respectful on the whole. I was sleeping at the time otherwise i would have enjoyed booting him personally From: someone eject/ban/AR without discussion
Lissa Pinion Cowgirl at Large Join date: 29 May 2007 Posts: 48	07-07-2008 11:26 From: Amy Stork Well, I think I will just ban then - seems a pity because most people who visit Nature's Way are very nice and respectful on the whole. Not a pity. What is a pity is if you don't ban the trouble makers. Becomes a pity to all the ppl who follow the rules and show respect for one another. Banning Troublemakers is a hobby of mine Lissa
Amy Stork Way past use by date Join date: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 646	07-07-2008 11:30 LOL - I don't make a habit of it myself but i meant a pity for the other guests
Rainy Latte Self-proclaimed deviant Join date: 2 Jun 2008 Posts: 92	07-07-2008 11:39 stupidity like that deserves nothing less than BAN/EJECT.. BUH BYE! _____________________ If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?
Tabliopa Underwood Registered User Join date: 6 Aug 2007 Posts: 719	07-08-2008 05:48 From: Amy Stork ... I was sleeping at the time otherwise i would have enjoyed booting him personally /me eyes light up. Booting nawti avatars out on their bums, mmmmm! =)
Shana Moger Registered User Join date: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 14	07-08-2008 07:23 At time's i wish i had the ability to launch people up in the air !!

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