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Ever gotten a notecard complaining about being on a store site in away mode?

SuezanneC Baskerville
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09-01-2008 18:53
I saw a classified with an ad for some freebies earlier today and went to the site to see what they were. This was hours ago that I went. I just now got a notecard saying:

From: someone
I ask that people please do not go Away and park their avatars here. This includes in the sky where our [...] and [...]. I have seen you here since much earlier
today and I am not happy that all of our shuttle and balloon visitors see you standing on the ship, for no apparent reason other than you are parked.

I get dozens of people parking themselves on these sims for hours, even overnight. I do not like it. Since you do not respond, and I do not know when you will return, and you have been here for an extended period of time, I am sorry but I am going to remove you. You are more than welcome to return for a visit when you are not otherwise occupied.


I've never had one of these before.

I don't know if I was actually running SL and ignoring it since it I'm looking at the other monitor in the forums and sometimes using browsers on both monitors to answer people's forum questions, or if my avatar was ghosted on that parcel.

I have had people ask what the heck I'm doing standing motionless for so long in chat or in IMs but not in a notecard.


It's a politely written note and not an unreasonable request, but I doubt I'll go back to the place or recommend it to anyone ever again, and it was one of the places I have recommended to people.
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Annabelle Babii
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09-01-2008 18:55
Sounds like she's afraid you'll be mistaken for a traffic bot.
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09-01-2008 18:59
Isn't this how textures are copied also?... by staying in one place and not doing anything. <additional details not posted>
SuezanneC Baskerville
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09-01-2008 19:04
It's not how I'd copy textures, I'd just stay there just barely long enough for the textures to display and run the open source program that copies them automatically.
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Dana Hickman
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09-01-2008 20:24
To me it sounds exactly like how it reads.. a landowner who's concerned about the aesthetics of their area, and politely does their best to keeps things that way. My guess is that since there's apparently rides or tours there, that also includes chasing off the idlers and AFK's. If there's freebies, you can probably expect lots of noobs to frequent there as well. To me, no idling is a special condition that needs to be made known to people upon arrival. If there's no big sign or rules notecard giver at the landing spot, then the landowner is only shooting themselves in the foot and nobody that gets removed for idling is to blame. It's something completely different if someone ignores the big sign, declines the rules notecard blah blah, and then proceeds to idle and unwittingly cause this landowner to question the intelligence of SL residents if they can't even read.

Ironically, the only place i seem to get in trouble for going AFK or idling too long is at the Cartel hangout :rolleyes: though I have seen several places that tell you right away when you get there that they'd appreciate it if you dont loiter AFK.
Sleepy Xue
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09-01-2008 20:29
Same to me. I think the owner just doesn't like people standing afk on the roof. Who knows! To the owner it might look like you're an infected human from that awful(or so I have heard) movie that came out.."The happening"?




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I think it's REALLY funny that you got a note card. /me lolz
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09-01-2008 20:30
I thought most shop owners WANT to have a lot of green dots over their installation...

Maybe not, though, when you reach such a high level of success that you're in danger of reaching the sim capacity.

But Dana was quite right: if a shop owner is intent on discouraging
idling, they need to put up some easy-to-see signs.
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09-01-2008 21:59
From: Dana Hickman


Ironically, the only place i seem to get in trouble for going AFK or idling too long is at the Cartel hangout :rolleyes: though I have seen several places that tell you right away when you get there that they'd appreciate it if you dont loiter AFK.


By "trouble", I take it you mean that your avatar runs the risk of getting decorated if you go AFK.... because there is certainly no po-faced rule about "loitering" or being away. It's a purely jokey tradition - important to make that distinction, I feel.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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09-01-2008 22:17
If I go back again I'll make sure to wear an appropriate outfit so I fit properly into the scene.

I spend most of the time in SL now with the group chat window open blocking a lot of the view of the world so even if my avatar appears to be actively staring at the sky or some other oddball thing I'm not generally paying much attention. I (my avatar) might be facing in a corner for hours or stuck in a wall and I wouldn't know it.

Possibly the most immersion destroying thing is the second monitor.

The next most immersion destroying thing would be the inability to have the console chat consist of nothing but local chat, without a dialog box, the least intrusive possible display of local chat.

Then gray textures, I guess. Very hard to pretend you are in a persistent world when you have to see it cardboard trees and cardboard boxes for 5 minutes before it's fit to be seen.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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09-01-2008 22:23
how hard is it to set up a second monitor and use it? I have been thinking about doing that so I can work in photoshop and still be able to see the world consistently without the constant switching between programs

if I could run SL on one, and ps on the other... ahhh heaven hehe

(bit green on how do that though or what is required)
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09-01-2008 22:26
From: SuezanneC Baskerville
If I go back again I'll make sure to wear an appropriate outfit so I fit properly into the scene.

I spend most of the time in SL now with the group chat window open blocking a lot of the view of the world so even if my avatar appears to be actively staring at the sky or some other oddball thing I'm not generally paying much attention. I (my avatar) might be facing in a corner for hours or stuck in a wall and nI wouldn't know it.

Possibly the most immersion destroying thing is the second monitor.

The next most immersion destroying thing would be the inability to have the console chat consist of nothing but local chat, without a dialog box, the least intrusive possible display of local chat.

Then gray textures, I guess. Very hard to pretend you are in a persistent world when you have to see it cardboard trees and cardboard boxes for 5 minutes before it's fit to be seen.

You should put on an some kind of army Av and go afk. See what happens then lol
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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09-01-2008 22:40
As for two monitors, I have two computers in this room, each computer with one monitor. I use the Synergy mouse and keyboard sharing program to use one mouse and keyboard for both computers. When I slide the cursor towards where the monitors touch, the cursor slides from one screen to the other and I am thus switching effortlessly from controlling one computer to the other. There is a relatively new program similar to Synergy that is also free which merits looking into.

The normal way to use two monitors with one computer is to have a video card with multiple outputs. I've found that my ATI video card when used that way doesn't work nearly as well as when I had an Nvidia card with two outputs. The ATI dual monitor software is barely passable while the nVidia dual monitor support was excellent.

The setup for the nVidia dual monitor system was very simple, plug the second monitor in, run a wizard, use two monitors. Back when I had it set up that way I could run SL on either monitor with no problem or stretch SL across both monitors with no problem. That was a few years ago though.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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09-01-2008 22:49
ah not sure if my card supports dual monitors, too lazy to check at the moment

but your info has been helpful, thank you :)
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09-01-2008 23:28
Well, I think it's weird and unfriendly.
I'm always in IM, on the phn and enjoy most stores' atmo ppls set up and guilty of store parking. Who knows why they sent that, maybe they are having some problem or para.
I can't imagine someone sending me a note like that and! *eject*! over nothing.
I mean yah, if a person is setting the place on fire, trying to steal customers, running an escort biz on the stores' furn ...sure "Bye!"
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09-02-2008 01:03
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
how hard is it to set up a second monitor and use it? I have been thinking about doing that so I can work in photoshop and still be able to see the world consistently without the constant switching between programs

if I could run SL on one, and ps on the other... ahhh heaven hehe

(bit green on how do that though or what is required)

Dual Monitors on Ndiva is easy, Most of the mid to high spec cards you should be using for SL have 2 sockets on them. I have no problems at all with 2- windows on the second monitor of forums/excell/word/websites/utube etc. I have my Windows menubar on the righthand monitor too, my mouse justslides from one to the other as Susans does.
Only have problems if I try something graphic intensive on the right one as well as SL, like another game or instance of SL, after 5-10minutes it gets screwy.
I am using a 8800 with 360Mb of graphics memory, my 7600 with 512Mb ran 2 copies of SL a lot better, but at lower resolution too.
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09-02-2008 04:37
*blinks* That might seem polite to some, but if I found myself ejected for no apparent reason, I'd not be coming back to the place.

While I can understand some of the reasoning for it, it seems so darned unfriendly.
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09-02-2008 05:23
I think it was a perfectly reasonable choice on the part of the owner. The notecard did not have an offensive or condescending tone either, at least the way I read it. If someone has gone to the trouble to provide activities and ambience, I'd think it fair enough for them to discourage unattended avatars from parking themselves in the middle of it.

Oh and Sue - on the funky camera action on the client side of the Synergy connection, I'm getting around it by just plugging a mouse into the second computer and reaching for that mouse when I want to work the camera over there. I am curious about this alternative product you're looking at though. I love Synergy, but there hasn't been any development action for over 2 years.
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09-04-2008 10:14
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
how hard is it to set up a second monitor and use it? I have been thinking about doing that so I can work in photoshop and still be able to see the world consistently without the constant switching between programs

if I could run SL on one, and ps on the other... ahhh heaven hehe

(bit green on how do that though or what is required)


Its pretty easy. I have two notebook combos (notebook screen and additional monitor), one dual card (desktop PC with two cards, which works best of the three) and one desktop PC with two monitors on one card. Only issue is if you have two different levels of monitor, you may have to switch your primary monitor so SL runs on the better of the two.

Having them doesn't prevent my avatar from going to sleep on me when I go get the dog. OTOH, I never have SL on that long. If my screens are full, I always alt-tab every once in a while to see what's open.