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Leslie Trihey

Crazy shapeshifter.

Join date: 10 May 2007

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11-13-2007 18:06

http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/

What about avatars that are shorter then 6 feet? You know the ones that chose not to be 8 foot tall crack whores. Are the lindens going to at least investigate before the choose to ban said avatar? Because they might be really short, or have a small chest. (I'm generally talking about female avatars.)

Elora Lunasea

Mrs. Llama

Join date: 28 Aug 2007

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11-13-2007 18:13

I don't think it will go quite that far. I'm very short, 5'. I've only once had someone question me, when I was in the Amsterdam sim (going to the Escher exhibit no less!). I very clearly look like an adult - you can tell by my body shape and facial appearance. And the way I speak and behave. Plus, I dress like an adult. Even the few times I've put on clothing which may be a bit younger looking (my "Gothic Lolita" dress comes to mind) I still do not look like a kid - just someone going clubbing.

I'm not concerned personally.

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Raudf Fox

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11-13-2007 18:15

It states that different traits are taken into account. In other words, just because you are short, you shouldn't be AR'd. It takes a combination of things, like 'speech' pattern, height, things normally associated with children and appearance to get you nailed.. er.. I mean, in trouble. If you are a short, normally proportioned female, with normal adult speech patterns and not around the kids toys, then it's not a problem as far as LL is concerned.

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Void Singer

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ooo a clarification....

11-13-2007 19:13

and yet their crappy wording is going to cause a whole new wave of paranoid accusations based on 'proximity' and 'catering' and even 'sex bed' (I mean seriously a bed is just a damn bed if you aren't lying on it using seuxal animations) and and really, is there a sign that pops up for me to know when I'm near a SCRIPT that's sexual in nature, come on now, honestly? ::eyeroll::

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Caroline Ra

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11-13-2007 21:42

From: Leslie Trihey

http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/

What about avatars that are shorter then 6 feet? You know the ones that chose not to be 8 foot tall crack whores. Are the lindens going to at least investigate before the choose to ban said avatar? Because they might be really short, or have a small chest. (I'm generally talking about female avatars.)

Why so offensive about tall female avis?

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2k Suisei

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11-13-2007 22:02

Oryx Tempel

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11-13-2007 23:53

From the blog. Read it before you start threads like this:

From: someone

We understand that in some cases there may be an element of subjectivity as to whether an avatar (or other image) appears to be a minor. Objective factors which will be used to decide include whether an avatar has child-like facial features, is sized as a child, has clothing or accessories generally associated with children, and whether, based on the circumstances, an avatar is speaking or acting like a child (e.g. “My Mommy says…”).

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Fatbottomedgirl Barbosa

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Join date: 10 Aug 2007

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11-14-2007 00:10

I find the age play quite yukky. I have a short avi under 5' 5" but the ones who are kids are obviously kids.

Wulfric Chevalier

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Join date: 22 Dec 2006

Posts: 947

11-14-2007 00:53

From: Leslie Trihey

http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/

What about avatars that are shorter then 6 feet? You know the ones that chose not to be 8 foot tall crack whores. Are the lindens going to at least investigate before the choose to ban said avatar? Because they might be really short, or have a small chest. (I'm generally talking about female avatars.)

Why is it that whenever LL lay out a policy that doesn't deal in detail with every little nuance of a situation that people start complaining? Are people incapable of making judgements for themselves? Do you really need to be told exactly what you can and can't do?

The policy is clear - no sexual behaviour involving AVs that appear to be children. There are inevitably going to be grey areas, if only because of variations in RL laws - here in the UK the age of consent is 16, so sex with an AV that seems to be in its late teens is not involving children, in other countries the age of consent is older or younger - but as the blog says, if in doubt, don't do it. If you stray into one of the grey areas and get caught it seems unlikely that they will immediately ban you, immediate bans seem far more likely for clear violations of the policy.

By setting out a clear policy, but not giving detailed rules, LL are both covering their own backs and allowing themselves to deal with situatons as they arise, and also treating us like adults who are capable of making our own decisions about what we do.

Tegg Bode

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Join date: 12 Jan 2007

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11-14-2007 02:59

Damnit, What is the age of consent for a Weasel?

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Leslie Trihey Crazy shapeshifter. Join date: 10 May 2007 Posts: 136	11-13-2007 18:06 http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/ What about avatars that are shorter then 6 feet? You know the ones that chose not to be 8 foot tall crack whores. Are the lindens going to at least investigate before the choose to ban said avatar? Because they might be really short, or have a small chest. (I'm generally talking about female avatars.)
Elora Lunasea Mrs. Llama Join date: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 4,828	11-13-2007 18:13 I don't think it will go quite that far. I'm very short, 5'. I've only once had someone question me, when I was in the Amsterdam sim (going to the Escher exhibit no less!). I very clearly look like an adult - you can tell by my body shape and facial appearance. And the way I speak and behave. Plus, I dress like an adult. Even the few times I've put on clothing which may be a bit younger looking (my "Gothic Lolita" dress comes to mind) I still do not look like a kid - just someone going clubbing. I'm not concerned personally. _____________________ eloralunasea.blogspot.com Have you hugged a llama today?
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	11-13-2007 18:15 It states that different traits are taken into account. In other words, just because you are short, you shouldn't be AR'd. It takes a combination of things, like 'speech' pattern, height, things normally associated with children and appearance to get you nailed.. er.. I mean, in trouble. If you are a short, normally proportioned female, with normal adult speech patterns and not around the kids toys, then it's not a problem as far as LL is concerned. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Void Singer Int vSelf = Sing(void); Join date: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 6,973	ooo a clarification.... 11-13-2007 19:13 and yet their crappy wording is going to cause a whole new wave of paranoid accusations based on 'proximity' and 'catering' and even 'sex bed' (I mean seriously a bed is just a damn bed if you aren't lying on it using seuxal animations) and and really, is there a sign that pops up for me to know when I'm near a SCRIPT that's sexual in nature, come on now, honestly? ::eyeroll:: _____________________ \| \| . "Cat-Like Typing Detected" \| . This post may contain errors in logic, spelling, and \| . grammar known to the SL populace to cause confusion \| \| - Please Use PHP tags when posting scripts/code, Thanks. \| - Can't See PHP or URL Tags Correctly? Check Out This Link... \| -
Caroline Ra Carpe Iugulum Join date: 20 Dec 2006 Posts: 400	11-13-2007 21:42 From: Leslie Trihey http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/ What about avatars that are shorter then 6 feet? You know the ones that chose not to be 8 foot tall crack whores. Are the lindens going to at least investigate before the choose to ban said avatar? Because they might be really short, or have a small chest. (I'm generally talking about female avatars.) Why so offensive about tall female avis? _____________________ The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.
2k Suisei Registered User Join date: 9 Nov 2006 Posts: 2,150	11-13-2007 22:02
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	11-13-2007 23:53 From the blog. Read it before you start threads like this: From: someone We understand that in some cases there may be an element of subjectivity as to whether an avatar (or other image) appears to be a minor. Objective factors which will be used to decide include whether an avatar has child-like facial features, is sized as a child, has clothing or accessories generally associated with children, and whether, based on the circumstances, an avatar is speaking or acting like a child (e.g. “My Mommy says…”). _____________________
Fatbottomedgirl Barbosa Registered User Join date: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 88	11-14-2007 00:10 I find the age play quite yukky. I have a short avi under 5' 5" but the ones who are kids are obviously kids.
Wulfric Chevalier Give me a Fish!!!! Join date: 22 Dec 2006 Posts: 947	11-14-2007 00:53 From: Leslie Trihey http://blog.secondlife.com/2007/11/13/clarification-of-policy-disallowing-ageplay/ What about avatars that are shorter then 6 feet? You know the ones that chose not to be 8 foot tall crack whores. Are the lindens going to at least investigate before the choose to ban said avatar? Because they might be really short, or have a small chest. (I'm generally talking about female avatars.) Why is it that whenever LL lay out a policy that doesn't deal in detail with every little nuance of a situation that people start complaining? Are people incapable of making judgements for themselves? Do you really need to be told exactly what you can and can't do? The policy is clear - no sexual behaviour involving AVs that appear to be children. There are inevitably going to be grey areas, if only because of variations in RL laws - here in the UK the age of consent is 16, so sex with an AV that seems to be in its late teens is not involving children, in other countries the age of consent is older or younger - but as the blog says, if in doubt, don't do it. If you stray into one of the grey areas and get caught it seems unlikely that they will immediately ban you, immediate bans seem far more likely for clear violations of the policy. By setting out a clear policy, but not giving detailed rules, LL are both covering their own backs and allowing themselves to deal with situatons as they arise, and also treating us like adults who are capable of making our own decisions about what we do.
Tegg Bode FrootLoop Roo Overlord Join date: 12 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,707	11-14-2007 02:59 Damnit, What is the age of consent for a Weasel? _____________________ Level 38 Builder [Roo Clan] Free Waterside & Roadside Vehicle Rez Platform, Desire (88, 17, 107) Avatars & Roadside Seaview shops and vendorspace for rent, $2.00/prim/week, Desire (175,48,107)

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